Game of Thrones thread number I dunno - do we still talk about this?

[Pokonic]

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At least at that point we won't be able to tell when they mix up the casting thanks to his lack of features.

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I remember a old joke about how this version of Gregor is simply Westeros's most successful Faceless Man, because even when he changes into different forms people simply don't notice.

[TillySparks]

They've done a fairly good job at keeping his voice the same though. Listen to the 1 sentence he speaks in season 1,2 and 3. They've clearly got the actors faking a particular kind of gruff, deep voice.

[Lizard Lord]

OMG! The Mountain is a Timelord!

[Ace Mace]

Some thoughts on the last few episodes. Not sure if these are spoilers, but I just want to make sure. Better safe than sorry:

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About the Theon-Castle-Rescue scene, yeah I do agree with the general consensus it was pointless. That said, I still enjoyed it more that Jon Snow liberating Craster's Keep. Your scene has a lot of dramatic weight when your psychic character just declares who is/isn't going to die in the near future. Maybe it's just me, but I was expecting a much better confrontation.

That being said, I do think The Laws of Gods and Men and Mockingbird were both excellent episodes and I'm excited for the upcoming episodes.

[Otomodachi]

So, I see on Wikipedia that the next episode will be entitled

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the Viper and the Mountain.

Are we excited about this? Yes we are. :)

[Seerow]

So, I see on Wikipedia that the next episode will be entitled

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the Viper and the Mountain.

Are we excited about this? Yes we are. :)

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Yet they never once in the show actually referred to him as the Viper. >_>

[JadedDM]

Actually, they did once...in passing. It was shortly after he first arrived in King's Landing, I think. And what an awesome duelist he is.

[shadow_archmagi]

Between the scene in the brothel and his general clearly-a-boss way of speaking and moving, I don't have to have read the books to know 100% that he is the viper the title refers to.

[ChaosArchon]

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Oh my gods... that was easily the most horrifying death I've ever seen on the show

[JustPlayItLoud]

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Oh my gods... that was easily the most horrifying death I've ever seen on the show

It's not often that I watch anything with my jaw literally hanging open.

[Dienekes]

I love watching this show with non book readers. Oh how I laugh, and oh how they hate me.

I suppose I should give some thoughts.

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The Grey Worm story is stupid. I hate when they writers do this. Oh we don't know how to do a character arc, here, let's add a romance for absolutely no reason that doesn't add anything to the story and doesn't make sense for the characters. It's dumb.

I have no idea what they're doing with Arya and the Hound. They just sort of announced that Arya was alive in front of a bunch of people, this seems a really strange change to make (though Arya's reaction to finding out her aunt is dead was hilarious). Same with Sansa really. I kind of like that we see Sansa's blossoming crafiness more directly than we do in the book where it is only displayed because she guesses Lyn Corbray's role in Baelish's plan, but again, announcing herself a Stark in front of a bunch of people is kind of a big change.

The Wall is off being Wall-y. Some changes from the book, but ultimately they just serve to add some action scenes while we wait for something important to happen. At least they didn't butcher Ser Thorne's character any further than they already had. I have no problem with it, so, moving on.

The Bolton's are fun. I think the actors who play Theon and Ramsay are both really good, and they didn't have Ramsay do anything stupid this time around, so I liked it. Also, the Ironborn continue to be backstabbing bickering bastards. How have they not been wiped out yet? GRRM, I love you, but you made a group of disorganized vikings that keep causing trouble for hundreds of years without any of the actual resources and reasons that allowed the vikings to be successful in the first place. They should have all been destroyed centuries ago.

So... Jaime and Tyrion's last discussion before the big day is about beetles. You know, a lot of the speeches added for the show are pretty decent. I thought this one was weak.

And finally the fight. Ok, this show has been going on for 4 years now. Is it really too much to ask to train your actors how to use a longsword? I know the actor playing The Mountain is new, but he was flailing around like he didn't know what he was doing. Martell was pretty good though (though admittedly I don't know as much about spear fighting), his flips were mostly utterly pointless and would do nothing but wear him out after the first couple which giving the benefit of the doubt were there to warm him up. But whatever, at least he looked like he was a competent fighter. It was still a really fun scene, and that ending. The pop. It was great. People watching with me screamed. I loved it.

[Callos_DeTerran]

It's not often that I watch anything with my jaw literally hanging open.

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...*Snrk*.

On a more serious note, greatly enjoyed the episode but...maybe I've been pampered by more unrealistic series but I was hoping for a little more from the fight scene itself (mostly on the Mountain's side of things) and on the Mountain's actual lines.

[Hattish Thing]

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Well then. That. That was one of the most suspenseful battle scenes I've watched in a long time. And easily the grossest death on the show. I just sat there with my brother staring at the credits for about a minute. That.... was horrifying. If only Oberyn had simply gone for the quick kill. I really wanted to see a goodish character win this time... This new Mountain actor is very good at being detestable.

Or maybe I'm bias. Oberyn was one of my favorites, and now Tyrion's probably going to die. Unless the Mountain dies too.... Would he be allowed to live then, or...?

[ChaosArchon]

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I think the whole beetle speech (while super weird and weak) was basically supposed to represent the strong brutes of the world oppressing the weak (Tyrion)... I think. But yeah why did Oberyn have start to monaloging, it never ends well

[Hattish Thing]

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I think the whole beetle speech (while super weird and weak) was basically supposed to represent the strong brutes of the world oppressing the weak (Tyrion)... I think. But yeah why did Oberyn have start to monaloging, it never ends well

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Yeah. I... I really wanted The Mountain to die. I hate that character so much. Espescially now. Oberyn was lucky to bring him down in the first place. Ugh.

I saw the big dumb uncle Lannister guy smashing beetles as foreshadowiny. Kinda put me on end. Oberyn as the proverbial beetle...

Beetles got smashed.

[ChaosArchon]

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I'm pretty sure the Mountain did die, just after Oberyn and thus Tyrion lost. Might be wrong though but he seemed dead/dying (just not headmashsed like Obeyrn).

[Hattish Thing]

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I'm pretty sure the Mountain did die, just after Oberyn and thus Tyrion lost. Might be wrong though but he seemed dead/dying (just not headmashsed like Obeyrn).

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So. It looks like my favorite character is destined for death. Poo

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[BananaPhone]

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a) I'm a bit of a self-spoiler and I accidently read the outcome of the Viper and the Mountain fight a month ago...but damn, seeing that happen to one of my favorite characters is the first time in the session I've actually gone full on wide-eyed 8O face. And all to The Mountain happily proclaiming how he raped his sister? Gah.

I'm so glad that:

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...the mountain dies a painful, horrible death because Oberyns spear was poisoned. That's why the guy was so confident. There are a lot of sick ****s on the show, but The Mountain arouses a particular loathing in me. I'm very happy that Oberyn will get his revenge and The Mountain will get his just, agonising due. I can't wait to see this over-grown bag of **** suffer.

b) Now that I think about it, that little talk between Jaimie and Tyrion, the thing about that retarded guy crushing beetles...we're watching a show in which the writer just kills off favorite characters without people expecting it. It was almost a simile. (except the retard part lol)

c) I hated Sansa at the beginning of the show, but I've liked her more and more as time has gone on - most likely because she's changing. She used to be a terrible player at the Game of Thrones, but now she seems to be becoming an acolyte of deception beneath Bailish (another guy I hope dies horribly).

d) Damn...Jorah. I've actually liked this guy. His spying was a bit wanky, but after he turned his back on it, saved Daenyrs' life and gave that little speech as to why he wants to see her become the Queen of Westeros, I've liked the guy as a trusted adviser. It was painful to watch him depart Mereen like that.

e) I like Arra's character, but I'm glad her cross-country stint with The Hound has come to an end. It was getting pretty stale.

f) Next week we'll see the battle of the wall! Hopefully they'll take the experience they learned filming The Battle of Black Water and give us an awesome battle scene.

[Maelstrom]

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I personally enjoyed the little line dropped in Baelish's talk with Robyn about death - "People even die while squatting over their chamberpots" Next episode maybe?

[ChaosArchon]

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Yeah seeing Sansa finally become a true player in the Game was actually pretty awesome. I was so tired of her just being really passive and not doing much other than crying. Also Arya's laugh kinda made the episode for me, so full of happiness and without the boredom or pain she usually has, its good to see that sometimes in GoT (of course now that shes shown shes kinda happy ofc something horrible is gonna happen next episode for her I think).

[Rawhide]

Guys. Can you please use the option (spoiler=option) to mark the reason for the spoilers? Specifically, mention if you are talking about a spoiler for a particular episode (e.g. "Season 4 Episode 8", or a shorthand representation such as "Recent episode") or spoilers for future episodes (e.g. "Spoilers from books", "Future spoilers from the books").

[Dienekes]

Mind you. I will of course label my spoilers. But spoilers started cropping up as soon as a new episode aired. Not sure what else you'd expect them to be about.

[Legato Endless]

Noted.

Well except that last one. I would love to know a future spoiler from the books. Anyone have an advanced copy of Winds of Winter?

[Hadrian_Emrys]

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"of course now that shes shown shes kinda happy ofc something horrible is gonna happen next episode for her I think"

I don't get the impression that was a happy laugh so much as a reflection of something snapping in her brain.

[ChaosArchon]

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I just meant she showed something other than grumpy miss killerpants and loosened up a bit

[AtlanteanTroll]

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...the mountain dies a painful, horrible death because Oberyns spear was poisoned. That's why the guy was so confident. There are a lot of sick ****s on the show, but The Mountain arouses a particular loathing in me. I'm very happy that Oberyn will get his revenge and The Mountain will get his just, agonising due. I can't wait to see this over-grown bag of **** suffer.

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Looks to me as if you don't know the full aftermath yet...

[Ashen Lilies]

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I saw that laugh as Arya indulging in a little bit of black humor at the absurdity of it all. Yet another relative of hers she thought she would be able to find sanctuary with is dead. After the Red Wedding and her brother and mother getting slaughtered right before her, minutes away from thinking she was reaching safety, coming all the way to the Vale and hearing "oh yeah sorry your aunt died three days ago" is pretty hilarious in comparison. She's also having a genuine laugh at the Hound's expense as well. After all he's done and all he's been through to bring his hostage in, the poor bastard won't be getting his ransom. Given how much she hates him, of course she's going to find a little humor in his misfortune.

[Swaoeaeieu]

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[Yana]

Noted.

Well except that last one. I would love to know a future spoiler from the books. Anyone have an advanced copy of Winds of Winter?

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Arya gets her revenge on one of her names in this book in an incredibly creepy manner.

[AtlanteanTroll]

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Had the same thoughts myself while watching. Sadly, my friends didn't find it amusing when I shouted "Simba!" at the end of the scene...