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    Default Warforged Barbarian|Battlemind/Winter Fury - infinite damage available at level 15

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    Race: Warforged
    Class: Barbarian|Battlemind
    Hybrid Talent: Rageblood Vigor
    Paragon Path: Winter Fury
    Multiclass: Fighter

    Strength 22
    Constitution 22
    Dexteritry 14
    Intelligence 9
    Wisdom 12
    Charisma 11

    Feats
    L1-Chainmail Armor Proficiency
    L2-Scale Armor Proficiency
    L4-Gouge Proficiency
    L6-Spear Expertise
    L8-Weapon Focus (retrained to Icy Heart at level 11)
    L10-Wintertouched
    L11-Lasting Frost
    L12-Hybrid Talent (Rageblood Vigor)
    L14-Improved Defenses

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    L1-Howling Strike

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    L15-Mind Blade

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    +3 Rending Gouge


    Mind Blade applies Unconcious. Whenever you hit someone who's unconcious, every attack against them is a crit. Therefore, we do get the MBA from the Rending Gouge. But that MBA will be a crit too, so we'll attack again. And again. And again.

    "But GPuzzle, can't we only make one free action attack a round?"

    Rending just says you make it, it's not marked as a free action.

    So we end up attacking again. And again. And again. And again. Forever and ever and ever.

    And we are dealing infinite damage.
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    Default Re: Warforged Barbarian|Battlemind/Winter Fury - infinite damage available at level 1

    to auto-crit an unconscious creature you must perform a coup de grace, which is a standard action.

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    Default Re: Warforged Barbarian|Battlemind/Winter Fury - infinite damage available at level 1

    Ah, crap. That breakes the build completely.
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    Default Re: Warforged Barbarian|Battlemind/Winter Fury - infinite damage available at level 1

    It is as much a 'no action' attack as it is a minor, move or standard action attack. All bonus attacks are free actions or more unless explicitly something else. Don't be silly.

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    Default Re: Warforged Barbarian|Battlemind/Winter Fury - infinite damage available at level 1

    Instead of posting fully fleshed out, named builds with crazy mechanical tricks that often don't work the way you want, you could just post asking if the core mechanical trick involved works ;) might save time.

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    Default Re: Warforged Barbarian|Battlemind/Winter Fury - infinite damage available at level 1

    That would be a wise idea. Theorycrafting in it's own right is fun, but this isn't the pointless-optimization-using-lose-rules forum. That's what WotC is for.
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    Default Re: Warforged Barbarian|Battlemind/Winter Fury - infinite damage available at level 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Yakk View Post
    It is as much a 'no action' attack as it is a minor, move or standard action attack. All bonus attacks are free actions or more unless explicitly something else. Don't be silly.

    No Action attacks exist, most notably Power Strike.

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    Default Re: Warforged Barbarian|Battlemind/Winter Fury - infinite damage available at level 1

    Quote Originally Posted by darkdragoon View Post
    No Action attacks exist, most notably Power Strike.
    No action attacks specify that they are no action attacks.

    The RC clarifies that bonus or granted attacks that fail to specify an action type are to be considered free actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkdragoon View Post
    No Action attacks exist, most notably Power Strike.
    Power Strike is not at attack by itself though, it is an enhancement to a basic attack
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    Default Re: Warforged Barbarian|Battlemind/Winter Fury - infinite damage available at level 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Silma View Post
    Power Strike is not at attack by itself though, it is an enhancement to a basic attack
    Power Strike is a no action attack power. But it does not make an actual attack.

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    Default Re: Warforged Barbarian|Battlemind/Winter Fury - infinite damage available at level 1

    Quote Originally Posted by darkdragoon View Post
    No Action attacks exist, most notably Power Strike.
    Yes. And it says "no action" (or rather, there is explicit errata saying it is a no action attack).

    I said interpreting a power that does not say what action it takes as a "no action" is no more valid than interpreting it as a standard action, move action, or minor action (or free action).

    By RAW, it does not have an action type, so you cannot do the action.

    By RAI, it should be a free action attack.

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    Default Re: Warforged Barbarian|Battlemind/Winter Fury - infinite damage available at level 1

    That's all well and good, but Rending is a property, not a power. A property that modifies the usage of the attack power "Melee Basic Attack."

    Honestly, it's very close to a Timmy enchantment.

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