League of Legends LX: A Song of Loss and Ire - Dance at Dragon

[mrcarter11]

Spoiler: OGN group stage results

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RIP CJ

Spoiler: OGN

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So arrows more than likely just lucked their way into the finals of Summer. And SKT had a 2/3 chance to make it to the semi's, and instead pull the one team that will likely destroy them in the quarters,, Today is a sad ****ing day.

[Artanis]

Spoiler: LMQ vs. DIG

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Well. That was a thing. Anybody want to put odds on LMQ making it to worlds?

Also, lol @ the fattest ninja ever.

[Math_Mage]

Spoiler: LMQ vs. DIG

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Well. That was a thing. Anybody want to put odds on LMQ making it to worlds?

Also, lol @ the fattest ninja ever.

A good shot. I still think C9 is the best at crunch time, but CLG, LMQ, Dig all have good shots at the other two slots. TSM is spring split Curse--lose to winning teams, win against losing teams--so I don't think they're a threat.

[Qwertystop]

Look what we just did.

[Siosilvar]

Look what we just did.

Yup, it turns out that if you have the only ten people in queue you get matched fairly quickly.

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EDIT: Never mind, there are at least five other players apparently. The 5 queue just got into a game!

[Forrestfire]

I like the name of your Darius rune page

[Siosilvar]

I like the name of your Darius rune page

Fiora and most other top laners too. They were Baldur's Gate characters before I switched to fun names:

Will It Blend?
Carry Me To My Home
Let's Get Ready to Rumble
Blues Traveler - Four
Ability PowerOverwhelming
Balance in All Things
Captain Shenmacia
You Can't Cheese the Wall
NOOBLORD

[Ashen Lilies]

fyi Mysana + others

I'm going to have League uninstalled until September.

[Godskook]

fyi Mysana + others

I'm going to have League uninstalled until September.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

What happened???

@Mysana, we need to pull up a top laner sub for the summer, between Siosilvar, Anarion55, Recaiden or Hawkfrost. Any of the 8 of you have thoughts on this, speak to me quickly.

[Ashen Lilies]

connection issues too stronk

i can't queue without giving the enemy team a strong advantage from minute zero

even recaiden's jungle twitch can't carry me

[PersonMan]

connection issues too stronk

i can't queue without giving the enemy team a strong advantage from minute zero

even recaiden's jungle twitch can't carry me

Be honest you made a bet and said you'd do whatever the next person told you to do, then you fed and someone said "omg uninstall noob".

[Anarion]

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

What happened???

@Mysana, we need to pull up a top laner sub for the summer, between Siosilvar, Anarion55, Recaiden or Hawkfrost. Any of the 8 of you have thoughts on this, speak to me quickly.

I top lane better than I jungle by a fair bit. I'm not as good as Kris, but I've got Shyvana, Mundo, Kennen, Lulu, and Jax reasonably playable and I could work on my Renekton if we want him too.

[mrcarter11]

So, friends of mine told me I should watch CoL vs CRS.. After sitting through the entire thing, I'm not quite sure those people are actually my friends.

[thracian]

I'm pretty sure the last 20 minutes of that game were the most entertaining thing in this split so far.

[mrcarter11]

I'm pretty sure I really want whatever you're drinking.

[Ashen Lilies]

I top lane better than I jungle by a fair bit. I'm not as good as Kris, but I've got Shyvana, Mundo, Kennen, Lulu, and Jax reasonably playable and I could work on my Renekton if we want him too.

Also though I won't be playing, I'm totally willing to spectate games and give commentary + coaching where needed.

[efdf]

I really wish Kog had 2x PD 2x IE instead of Triforce BotRK in an 80 minute game.

edit: and BT instead of BVeil

[Artanis]

Has anybody been noticing a bit of lag of late? It used to be that, when starting a game, at least 8 players would be at 100% by the time the pre-game loading screen even came up for me, but now there's rarely more than 3. I've also noticed that there's usually at least two or three players who don't start their initial buy+move for a long time (often until after minions have spawned), and I've had a couple times where I got free kills when somebody simply stops moving in lane for several seconds, then complains about lag as they wait to respawn*. I also recently had a game suddenly go to a 5v2 when three opponents left/disconnected near-simultaneously.

*Yes, I know full well that complaints about lag after a death need to be taken with an entire mine's worth of NaCl grains. But stopping moving long enough to be autoattacked to death usually means either lag or typing, and one time it happened to the same guy three times. Taken in isolation I'd say that that guy's connection just decided to crap out that day, but between him winding up being one of the leavers/droppers in the 5v2 game I mentioned and everything else going on...yeah.



Unrelated silly thought: how capable is Tristana of clearing the jungle without getting herself killed by creeps? I know that it's the opposite of competitive at remotely-competent levels, but between me having built more sightstones as an ADC than all my opponents combined total ever, what Tristana can do to an unawares pre-30 player, and what Tristana can do to the opposing team when she has 50% more cash than their wealthiest player, it'd be absolutely HILARIOUS.

[Godskook]

I really wish Kog had 2x PD 2x IE instead of Triforce BotRK in an 80 minute game.

Why? Serious question here, I want to know your reasoning.

From my perspective, Triforce still offers more MS and similar enough damage that its not worth transitioning to a -second- PD, while BoRK's proc should be providing enough DPS late-game to make its lifesteal/active/AS more valuable than IE's raw damage. Also, you're outright wasting 10% crit.

[efdf]

I want him to two shot Lucian.

also Triforce damage isn't even close. BotRK and LW are fine but Triforce is terrible lategame on ADC

[Siosilvar]

Trading out Triforce late game gives up all of your mobility, and BoRK's %health damage is comparable or better than literally anything else you could put in that slot.

[efdf]

Trading out Triforce late game gives up all of your mobility

trading out triforce late game gives up all of triforce's mobility. trading out boots for zephyr gives up mobility too. itemization is all about what stats you desire over others. regardless, pd shiv is more ms than triforce.

BoRK's %health damage is comparable or better than literally anything else you could put in that slot.

nah. it's the best damage for a lifesteal item but compared to pure damage items it's not good

edit: unless slot = lifesteal item, then yeah i agree. there's only two ranged lifesteal items, botrk and bt though lol

[Godskook]

I want him to two shot Lucian.

At least go Shiv+PD+2xIE then, since I'm fairly certain that 10% AS isn't worth more than Shiv-proc and 1% MS. *ESPECIALLY* if you're focused closer to burst than DPS.

[efdf]

you're right shiv would be better

or ghostblade

just flash forward and end the game instead of spending 80 minutes attacking renekton omfg this game is unwatchable

[ex cathedra]

lategame botrk is good almost solely because of its attack speed

triforce sucks compared to any other damage item lategame but it's a better boots alternative than zephyr in terms of dps

ie-ie-botrk-pd-lw is optimal 5-item dps build

edit:
pd starts to outperform botrk in that build at ~900 hp given kog'maw's base stats

[efdf]

yeah ur right triforce should replace zephyr

so ie-ie-shiv-tri-lw-bt for best 1hitting lucian potential??

idk i need to find a timestamp where he gets hit by shockwave and see his hp to see if there was a possible kog build that allows an instant kill off of it

or just any moment where he loses a significant amount of his hp. i think gragas does it a few times too

[ex cathedra]

yeah ur right triforce should replace zephyr

so ie-ie-shiv-tri-lw-bt for best 1hitting lucian potential??

idk i need to find a timestamp where he gets hit by shockwave and see his hp to see if there was a possible kog build that allows an instant kill off of it

ie-ie-ie-tf-gb-lw pls

that's a bit more than 1300 damage pre-mit

[efdf]

it has to be at least somewhat playable though...
i do love me some ghostblade kog though

[ex cathedra]

ghostblade is super underrated, 20 arpen on a cc/ad/as item is baller

[TechnOkami]

Would Ghostblade be optimal on Tryndamere in place of one of his usual items?