Civ 5: GMR 8 - A Beyond Earth Prequel (G&K, BNW)

[Illven]

[OOC Thank you Narkis]

It is with great relief that I am here to tell the nations of the world that the English, Russian war has ended.

Catherine the Great pleaded at the steps of the Petra palace for English mercy. With great wisdom, we decided to accept her plea.

With the transfer of Rostov to English control, and a significant amount of gold to make up for when she refused to accept the deal, our two nations can live in peace once more.

[Dada]

1.04 production from a free social policy? Really? Fml .

[Illven]

Spoiler: Poland;Narkis

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We sent you an offer of our spare sugar, for GPT. Apparently King Gandhi rules his court with the high horse of hypocrisy, and while he can use war to resolve disagreements. The English empire should not act to protect their own interests.

In any regard, our sugar is now open. Do you wish to trade

Spoiler: Datsmore;Assryia

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Feel free to make us an offer on our spare gold lux.

[Narkis]

Spoiler: England

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Thank you for the offer, but we have no need of extra happiness at the moment. We will definitely let you know if we do.

[Illven]

Spoiler: Spectator update

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So just finished up with Biology.

There is not a lot of oil on this map.

India has the most at one packet of seven, and another 4 tiles out from their capital.

2 or 3 city states have 4 packets of oil, in the sea.

I have a packet of 4 oil in my capital in the sea. And the Zulu capital is growing for a 4 tile of oil.

That's about it.

I'm attacking India. If the attack is successful. All of the world's oil. On England. On a naval map.

[Illven]

Spoiler: Sunday spectator update extravaganza

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Our ally completes whatever project they were working on. So gold is not as effective a bribe on them, anymore. From the letters of Emperor Churchill.



Wellington is displeased with our occupation of Rostov.

A shame. We were only collecting on a debt owned by the Russian people.




Emperor Churchill greeted the people today at the footsteps of the Petra Palace. There he let the people know, that the Zuluian land that was owned by England now, was finally fully integrated into the empire.




We pick up Mobilization. The citizens are ready to grab gun and ship if we are attacked by a foreign power. They can be put onto the field quickly, and far more cheaply then other nations.




We uh... believe that Indian agents may have aided the Zuluians in their attempt to kill our queen. Our ships are being sent out to find out the truth of this claim, and if it is true to protect the English people.





Our scientists wait.



Pelor's defense force waits as well.




Other ships, explore the world.



Symbol of pains defense force waits as well.



We start work on Rostov.




English science has advanced far, from the era of cavemen.



The Holy city of Pelor. The best city in the goddamn world!



Jozan starts work on a hospital. For injured sailors.



Symbol of Pain is slow to get public schooling out.



Dawnbreaker also works on a hospital. They will be filled very shortly.



We Hate maps, works on a artist guild. The people were inspired by how Zuluian blood painted the landscape.



We Hate Bananas works on a observatory, so as to watch the stars.



Rostov works on a monument, commemorating the day, the English Empire took it from Russian hands.



The English empire has mastered tradition, with dips into Exploration, Commerce, and Rationalism.



Soon, we will discuss whether to introduce a standing army tax to pay for the World congress, and whether to ban alcohol in the world.



We are best in everything, except Literacy.







The tourism wars continue as the sea wars rage













The English empires intelligence on their foes.

So it's turn 150+ and thus time to discuss the progress of the game.

So far. Everything's turning up England! I'm the best at everything, except Literacy, only being beat by the AI in that. I'm England on a naval map. And making a move to grab most of the world's oil.

If that succeeds. Then it's Battleships for days into world conquest.

[Illven]

The English Empire has found evidence that Gandhi of India collaborated with the Zuluian remnants in an attempt to assassinate Queen Elizabeth the First, all those years ago.

Because this information has come to light, an attempt of such powerful aggression against the English people. The English Empire feels it has no other option but to declare a state of war between the English Empire and the Indian kingdom.

Indian citizens that cooperate with English authorities can expect a fair trial, and to enjoy all the benefits that the English Empire provides to it's captured territories.

Those that resist will simply be shot.

A message to the world, from General Churchill. 1660 AD

Spoiler: Datsmore;Assyria

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Our spare lux trade ended. We sent a renewal.

[Silverraptor]

The Brazilian people want to object to England's sudden declaration of war. Given that a World Congress is established, we insist that England provides this evidence to the international community before using it as an excuse to march into war. As England has a large military compared to India and India was not so long ago an ally of England against your previous war with Russia, it make very little sense of an Indian plot against your people and the royal family. And given that this plot was years ago, harboring such ill-will to suddenly attack over decades old provocation is very worrying for the international community, especially since such citizens who could have orchestrated a plot are very likely no longer around. Brazil would like to effectively orchestrate a ceasefire until England presents its supposed evidence of crimes against the suspects of the Indian people.

[Dada]

The peaceful and tolerant people of India have had no part in any attempts on the life of our dear friend, Queen Elizabeth the first. Our relationship has been one of mutual understanding and benefit since the beginning of times, and these accusations makes our hearts heavy with sorrow. Please, do present any evidence which you might have of this misdeed in the council of the states, the World Congress, such that we might discuss it openly. It shall then easily be shown that any evidence must have been planted by mutual enemies, wishing to sow discord between us. A war against India would be exactly what the real assailant would want, it would be a waste of innocent lives and it would be playing directly into their hands. We beg you, withdraw your hasty declaration of war, and consider the situation carefully and rationally, unclouded by the haze of rage and confusion.

We are grateful that our Brazilian friends stand with us in these dire times, being a voice of reason and compassion. If the English do not wish discuss their concerns openly, so that we may identify the real culprit, then only one possible explanation remains: this is a thinly veiled excuse for imperialist expansionism on behalf of the English empire, though we cannot believe that our dear friends would sink so low. If this is indeed the case, then step forward and admit so, stab us in the front rather than the back so that we may at least know your true motivations. Honour the friendship between our nations which has lasted for ages.

[Dada]

As we are writing this, at least six English Ship-of-the-line and three divisions of Longbowmen are raining death upon the innocent inhabitants of Malacca. Then asked for evidence and for reasonable discourse between sovereign nations, the English have chosen to stay quiet and let their weapons of death speak their true intentions. This can be nothing but a well-planned ambush, a bid for our ancestral lands. As such, we beg the international community to come to our aid, and to help us put down the rabid dog which seems to attack everyone and everything - Russians, Zulus and now Indians. We believe that there can be no peace in the world, while England is still a world power.

Let us discuss these matters further at the coming World Congress, which we have voted for to be hosted in Brazil, a country which has shown itself to be peace-loving, trustworthy and impartial.

[Illven]

As we are writing this, at least six English Ship-of-the-line and three divisions of Longbowmen are raining death upon the innocent inhabitants of Malacca. Then asked for evidence and for reasonable discourse between sovereign nations, the English have chosen to stay quiet and let their weapons of death speak their true intentions. This can be nothing but a well-planned ambush, a bid for our ancestral lands. As such, we beg the international community to come to our aid, and to help us put down the rabid dog which seems to attack everyone and everything - Russians, Zulus and now Indians. We believe that there can be no peace in the world, while England is still a world power.

Let us discuss these matters further at the coming World Congress, which we have voted for to be hosted in Brazil, a country which has shown itself to be peace-loving, trustworthy and impartial.

We will provide proof that our assault on Russia was just and right.

Russia desired a settlement extremely close to the English Queendom. We negotiated a price, and Russia settled. At first things were fine.

Then Catherine took a vacation, and our assistants refused to honor the terms of the deal. She then abdicated the throne for all eternity.

We decided that if Russia were to back-off of their deal, we saw no reason to let them walk all over English people.

And. Once we claimed the city spot, we accepted peace with the Russian people, did we not?

Spoiler: Proof

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Feel free to read the spoilers addressed to Russia, and the ones Russia addressed to me.

India knows about this deal. Gandhi is lying about it, in what I assume is an attempt to save his own skin. For proof of that claim, I invite you to read this.

Spoiler: Proof

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http://www.giantitp.com/forums/shows...&postcount=382

We denounce the claims that Brazil is truly neutral in this situation for you have reverted time itself to aid them, at the expense of the English people. Perhaps they feel obligated to so the same.

[Still annoyed you reverted, after I said I wasn't okay, and I got a worst CS quest from that. ]

[Illven]

Spoiler: Spectator war update

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Everyone hits the Industrial era. And thus we vote for a new world host.



If you vote for England. All your dreams will come true.



Assyria remembers their friends.



India harasses our flanks.



We put a stop to it.














Our Ships of the Line harass the forces of India, and improve for it.




Some of our Ships are recalled.














Other units do not contribute much to the war.








However some land units do see action.




And then we liberate the people of Malacca. They cheer in the streets for English saviors. Gleeful at their liberation from Indian oppression.





Malacca joins us in the fight.




We just ask for a small liberation fee.



Which goes to fund a new Privateer.

[Dada]

The fact that India was aware of your intention to wage war on Russia due to an old trade agreement, does not change the fact that you decided to wage war on Russia rather than let the issue be settled through the international council. Just or no, an act of war is an act of war and England has shown to be very eager to engage in such acts.

We have not denied having knowledge of your deal with Russia, nor have we told any lies. And yet you accuse us of "trying to save our own skin" as if that was a despicable sin. Any leader who cares for their people, will do anything in their power to "save the skin" of their innocent citizens, when faced with unwarranted aggression and expansionism. So yes, we are trying to save our own skin, the skin of our citizens and indeed even the skin of the free people of the entire world - We do not believe that your lust for conquest will ever be settled, not even if India should fall.

[As I recall, everyone agreed to the revert. If this was not the case, reverting was a mistake and I apologize for doing that. Regardless, can we please keep OOC gripes out of the IC politics? ]

[Illven]

The fact that India was aware of your intention to wage war on Russia due to an old trade agreement, does not change the fact that you decided to wage war on Russia rather than let the issue be settled through the international council. Just or no, an act of war is an act of war and England has shown to be very eager to engage in such acts.

We have not denied having knowledge of your deal with Russia, nor have we told any lies. And yet you accuse us of "trying to save our own skin" as if that was a despicable sin. Any leader who cares for their people, will do anything in their power to "save the skin" of their innocent citizens, when faced with unwarranted aggression and expansionism. So yes, we are trying to save our own skin, the skin of our citizens and indeed even the skin of the free people of the entire world - We do not believe that your lust for conquest will ever be settled, not even if India should fall.

[As I recall, everyone agreed to the revert. If this was not the case, reverting was a mistake and I apologize for doing that. Regardless, can we please keep OOC gripes out of the IC politics? ]

[OOC: Fine, fine. ]

[Narkis]

Spoiler: England

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Poland supports your righteous war on India. India's scheming must come to an end, and we are glad to see you are commited to removing this threat. We wish we were able to help you more materially, but the distance involved makes this infeasible.

However, we are worried about another threat to the world. Russia's "culture" has been steadily increasing, and if not stopped soon our own citizens will start clamoring for their rule. Again, the distances involved make it difficult for us to intervene, but if you were to finish what you started and eliminate Russia entirely, we will pledge to support you in whatever way you deem fit.

[Illven]

Spoiler: Narkis;Poland

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Thank you for your support. If you could vote England as host of the world congress, that would be the best method of showing support right now.

As for Russia, we can try, however the continent itself blocks us, we'd have to go around Celtic lands if we are to attack the Russian mainland. In addition, Russia's capital is settled amazingly for defense by the sea.

[Narkis]

Spoiler: England

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You have our vote.

The Russian situation is unfortunate. Our own maps are severely lacking, so we'll defer to your superior knowledge. But something must be done about them before it is too late.

[Illven]

Spoiler: Spectator war update

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The Celtic spies attempt to steal from the holy city of Pelor. We forgive them, for now.



Vancouver allies with the Zulu nation.



Malacca tasks the world to uncover more knowledge. The English people shall rise to this challenge.



Bogota apparently dislikes our attack on the Indian empire.



Now with Poland voting for England as host of the world congress. All their dreams can come true.



Our Longbowmen train to fight in hilly terrain.



As do our pirate crews improve.



We replace the crews on one of our ships of the line.












As others attack Gandhi's army.

























Other units stand around.




The intricies of naval warfare, are understood much easier now, with a great admiral.

[Illven]

Spoiler: Brazil;Silverraptor

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I'm sorry. But given your blatant favoritism towards India at this time. I do not feel safe granting the Brazilian nation embassy rights.

Perhaps if you could tell us why you requested it, I'd feel differently.

~General William Churchill.

[Silverraptor]

Spoiler: England

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We requested it because we discovered that somehow it got overlooked in the past. And we are not showing any favoritism to India, we just find it unnerving that since the founding of the World Congress, the English people have been apart of every single war. In fact, apart from some ancient scriptures in the ancient Brazilian Library of some supposed savage barbarians that use to run through Brazilian lands, the Brazilian people had no need or knowledge of warfare. We find it difficult to comprehend why taking others lives is at all appealing, so we just required more concrete evidence and convincing that you were in fact wronged in some way to justify the lives lost in your declaration of war with India.

[Illven]

Spoiler: Spectator war update

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The English Empire, having finished Gunpowder, starts researching Metallurgy.



The Cruel Indian Kingdom bombards our ships in the water. The survivors of the capsize, are slain by merciless Indian arrows before they can reach shore.



As our golden age ends.



Our new Ship of the line trains to fight coastal troops.






And our scientists congregate and wait.



















Other troops do nothing.






But some Longbows engage Gandhi's empire.











And Ships of the Line engage Gandhi's troop



One of the ships of the lines return to our waters to heal.




Our tech tree.



Maps of Pelor.



Maps of Jozan.



And Symbol of pain.



Dawnbreaker.



We Hate maps works on a public school.



As does We hate Bananas.



Rostov works on a university.




English policies. And autocracy.



The First Congress of Pelor.



Best in everything but approval. Worst in nothing.







The tourism wars.






And we coup Tyre away from the Celts.










The English empire's info

[Illven]

Spoiler: Narkis;Poland

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So you've hit the Modern era. Any plans for what path your civilization will take now?

William Churchill.

Spoiler: Silverraptor;Brazil

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Our spare luxury trade ended. I had my staff work on the paperwork to renew it.

William Churchill.

[Silverraptor]

Spoiler: England

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Of course. An exchange of goods is always mutually beneficial for our citizens.

[Narkis]

Spoiler: England

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We shall follow your bright example, and embrace Autocracy. It is the only way forward.

[Illven]

[OOC: Spectators please ignore the change in the spectator update. Narkis has provided me with the EUI mod, and I've been using it.]

The supposed world congress neutrality is a joke! After the initial insult by the Indian people of asking us to fund the congress out of our own money, solely because we wish to have a strong military after an attack on our Queen, the Indian people abandoned any attempts at subtly.

The sole Indian proposal to the World congress, is to embargo England. A blatant attempt to nickle and dime the English people to death. I trust that while the Indians fail to understand the concept of neutrality, that other nations of the world, will refuse to vote for this heinous proposal, aimed solely to punish a singular nation.

As long as this proposal in on the docks, the world congress has been named "Neutrality", in light of India's complete mis-understanding of the word.

Spoiler: Silverraptor;Brazil

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Will you be voting for India's proposal? Or will you be remaining neutral, or vote it down?

Spoiler: Datsmore;Assyria

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What are your opinions on India's proposal?

Spoiler: Narkis;Poland

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I can trust that you won't vote for India's ridiculous proposal, correct?

Spoiler: Dada;India

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Shame it had to come to this.

Spoiler: Saturday spectator update extragavnza!

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The Brazilan people agree to renew our deal. One copper for one gold.



Our brethren in arms in Poland have overthrown Casimir the Great. In a brutal uprising the military threw off the shackles of oppression, and blended the military and the government to be as one.



Vancover doesn't want to be our friends anymore. Do they agree with India....



And the Zuluian people ally with Sydney. Traitors the lot of them.



India's proposal to the World congress fails. The world congress will not be funded with taxies on those nations that keep standing armies.



As does Russia's proposal.




As our navy sailors are butchered by India's cruel defense, the English people refuse to go quietly into the night. They are here to stay.






Our Longbowmen squads heal up, so as to continue attacking Novgorod.



The English people manage to produce another scientist of legend.




With.... India's proposal to the world congress. We rename the Congress into "Neutrality" and propose that the world congress be used to promote the values of Autocracy.



Having finished Rifling, our people start working on understanding Steam power.
















Our Ships of the lines continue to engage Indian cities and Soldiers.




We end up having to renew some of our trade with the Celts.



Our workers start to work on a camp outside of Rostov.





Our close quarter's combat ships have some victories.



Victories.



Sacredsheep immediately proclaims a new religion. It will be purged.














Other units simply stand around.





But some scientists of legend have major breakthroughs. Steampower is discovered. We believe this will allow for heavier then air flight, within the year.



Our faith, inspires Pelor himself to send down an angel from the heavens. At the holy city it is send a great resort shall be erected with but a wave of his angelic hand.



Our tech tree.



Maps of the Holy city of Pelor.



Jozan, the best clerical city.



Symbol of pain.



Dawnbreaker, working on armory so as to make our ships even better, off the line.



We hate maps. About to introduce public schooling.



We hate bananas. Cutting open the ribbon on it's school next year.



Rostov is only about to finish a university.



Sacred sheep has alot of buildings. Thank you, for not napalming everything.




Our policies. And English autocracy.



"Neutrality"



Best or tied for best in everything!!!!







The tourism wars.





Coup, coup, coup the AI!



Now let's bribe for votes.









English intelligence on our foes.

[Narkis]

Spoiler: England

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We have no interest to embargo our English brothers, from which we have learned so much.

[Silverraptor]

Spoiler: England

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Brazilians have seen no need for the world to settle differences by loss of life. But given that the world congress has voted down a measure on taxing any army, it seems that the world wants to operate by that function. It is unfortunate that the world chooses death over life.

[Illven]

Spoiler: Silveraptor;Brazil

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Pretty words. But words that do not answer our question.

We ask again. Will you vote for India's proposal, against, or stay neutral?

[Silverraptor]

Spoiler: Silveraptor;Brazil

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Pretty words. But words that do not answer our question.

We ask again. Will you vote for India's proposal, against, or stay neutral?

Spoiler: England

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The vote had concluded and the measure has failed. We had voted for it as a way to prevent all future bloodshed by requiring everyone to pay more for military arms. But as evidence by the conclusion of the vote, wars shall continue and Brazil will take no further heed of this matter.

[Illven]

Spoiler: Brazil;Silverraptor

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I believe you mis-understand the question.

We did not ask why you voted for the Indian's proposal.

We're asking if you're going to vote to embargo us.