Bloodfeast where art thou?

[Edhelras]

Can anyone tell me what happened to Bloodfeast? The last time I saw him, he was dozing with Mr. Scruffy in V's cabin.
But last time we saw V's cabin, only Blackwing and Mr. Scruffy were there. And now Belkar is walking around in town with only Mr. Scruffy.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to try to reverse the spell on Bloodfeast (of course - AFTER they finally leave the Mechane...)?

[Jaxzan Proditor]

Can anyone tell me what happened to Bloodfeast? The last time I saw him, he was dozing with Mr. Scruffy in V's cabin.
But last time we saw V's cabin, only Blackwing and Mr. Scruffy were there. And now Belkar is walking around in town with only Mr. Scruffy.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to try to reverse the spell on Bloodfeast (of course - AFTER they finally leave the Mechane...)?

I'm assuming he's still somewhere on the ship. Maybe he's now in Belkar's quarters? And once they get off the ship they probably will reverse the spell.

[Edhelras]

How exactly will they reverse the spell?

Last time we saw it, it was reversed by casting Dispel magic. I was a bit surprised, because Dispel magic counters ongoing effects. Baleful polymorph is described as "permanent", yet if the creature fails the Will save after 24 hrs, I thought it was a kinda really permanent change. The spell description doesn't say exactly how it may be removed, if the permanant change following a failed Will save has occurred. I kinda thought it might be impossible to remove, then. It's not a curse, or is it?

Now of course the author may reverse the spell any way he likes. But it would be interesting to speculate how.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

How exactly will they reverse the spell?

Last time we saw it, it was reversed by casting Dispel magic. I was a bit surprised, because Dispel magic counters ongoing effects. Baleful polymorph is described as "permanent", yet if the creature fails the Will save after 24 hrs, I thought it was a kinda really permanent change. The spell description doesn't say exactly how it may be removed, if the permanant change following a failed Will save has occurred. I kinda thought it might be impossible to remove, then. It's not a curse, or is it?

Now of course the author may reverse the spell any way he likes. But it would be interesting to speculate how.

Unless I am missing something, Break Enchantment ought to do the trick.

[colanderman]

How exactly will they reverse the spell?

Last time we saw it, it was reversed by casting Dispel magic. I was a bit surprised, because Dispel magic counters ongoing effects. Baleful polymorph is described as "permanent", yet if the creature fails the Will save after 24 hrs, I thought it was a kinda really permanent change. The spell description doesn't say exactly how it may be removed, if the permanant change following a failed Will save has occurred. I kinda thought it might be impossible to remove, then. It's not a curse, or is it?

Now of course the author may reverse the spell any way he likes. But it would be interesting to speculate how.

Baleful Polymorph is an ongoing effect (it has Duration: Permanent, not Instantaneous), thus it may be Dispelled. However it is not a curse; I believe curses are more-or-less specifically called out as such (most notably Bestow Curse bestows a curse).

Additionally, Break Enchantment can be used to undo the transmutation. (It would be effective even if the duration were Instantaneous.) My money is on Belkar searching for a caster of BE in the city.

See also this ancient discussion.

[Keltest]

Im not sure why so many people are convinced that dispelling the effect is a priority or even a desirable outcome. Sure, having a dinosaur of any sort would be cool, but how would they feed it? Where will they get enough water for it every day? How will it fit in dungeons? It might be interesting to dispel it in a combat situation, then have V polymorph him back after the fact, but having a dinosaur in just about any non-confrontational situation is going to do more harm than good.

[colanderman]

Im not sure why so many people are convinced that dispelling the effect is a priority or even a desirable outcome. Sure, having a dinosaur of any sort would be cool, but how would they feed it? Where will they get enough water for it every day? How will it fit in dungeons? It might be interesting to dispel it in a combat situation, then have V polymorph him back after the fact, but having a dinosaur in just about any non-confrontational situation is going to do more harm than good.

Do you think any of this concerns Belkar (past "having a dinosaur of any sort would be cool")?

(Obviously Belkar can't Dispel on his own; but nothing's stopping him from finding a gullible/intimidatable mage in town.)

[Keltest]

Do you think any of this concerns Belkar (past "having a dinosaur of any sort would be cool")?

(Obviously Belkar can't Dispel on his own; but nothing's stopping him from finding a gullible/intimidatable mage in town.)

While Belkar is not the most intelligent of people, he is aware enough of his animal companion(s) to know how to keep them reasonably healthy. Plus, he would almost certainly go to V first for this, and these are exactly the sorts of concerns V would raise.

[brian 333]

Do you think any of this concerns Belkar (past "having a dinosaur of any sort would be cool")?

(Obviously Belkar can't Dispel on his own; but nothing's stopping him from finding a gullible/intimidatable mage in town.)

Perhaps this is his unmentioned business in town that keeps him from witnessing Durkon's attempt to get raised?

[Bulldog Psion]

I'm sure we haven't seen the last of Bloodfeast the Extreme-inator. That name practically begs to be used again.

Of course, he'll probably just show up in time for Durk Malackssen to twist his neck and set the seal on Belkar's hatred for him.

[Edhelras]

Unless I am missing something, Break Enchantment ought to do the trick.

I agree. Baleful polymorph is a lvl 5 spell.

[Darth Paul]

Since Mr. Scruffy is now out walking with Belkar, maybe he also has Bloodfeast in his pocket? (Or else he's just happy to be in Tinkertown.)

[SlashDash]

Sure, having a dinosaur of any sort would be cool, but how would they feed it?
Where will they get enough water for it every day?

Both of these are rather easy to access clerical spells.

How will it fit in dungeons?

We're still not 100% sure where they are headed. Sure, they originally said that it was a dungeon filled with loads of monsters, but things might have changed over the years.

Also, it's possible they can use him for an initial assault on the entrance and clear a path for them to the dungeon.

[Bulldog Psion]

Restoring him at this point would probably lead to the gnomes trying to kill him.

Of course, given the nature of Gnomish technology, such attempts would likely fail in a humorously ridiculous way.

[Gusion]

Perhaps this is his unmentioned business in town that keeps him from witnessing Durkon's attempt to get raised?

I will seriously be disappointed if it is.

His top priority should be to acquire a magical device to help him deal with Durkula better. I can't think of any standard magical items that give a permanent protection from evil, but that's absolutely what he should be seeking.

[littlebum2002]

I will seriously be disappointed if it is.

His top priority should be to acquire a magical device to help him deal with Durkula better. I can't think of any standard magical items that give a permanent protection from evil, but that's absolutely what he should be seeking.

He could just get something to boost his will save. I know they have the Cloak of Resistance, but I'm pretty sure there are items that just boost individual saves.

Or is there an item that protects from magical mind control? I'm sure there is.

[Keltest]

He could just get something to boost his will save. I know they have the Cloak of Resistance, but I'm pretty sure there are items that just boost individual saves.

Or is there an item that protects from magical mind control? I'm sure there is.

Boosting his Wis would also help his will save, not to mention potentially enable him to cast spells if it gets boosted enough. I think that's something Belkar could learn to appreciate doing.

[Gusion]

Boosting his Wis would also help his will save, not to mention potentially enable him to cast spells if it gets boosted enough. I think that's something Belkar could learn to appreciate doing.

While I can certainly appreciate Belkar's desire for an alarm spell, especially now, it has already been established that a wise Belkar is not a particularly violent one.

But looking back, one could argue that his Wisdom HAS grown with his character growth - around 605 in particular. So perhaps he will shock us all with a spell or two before his death after all.