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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawhide View Post
    While I won't argue with you being a dirty rotten cheater normally, I fail to see how using an item specifically designed to provide you with a saving grace is in any way cheating in this instance .

    P.S. That's the one I chose and used for a while, until I switched to being able to activate shrines twice.

    Your least favourite class was the farmer right?

    Farmer.
    Oh, it's a loot thing I can bring into battle. I thought it was just...a thing that is always on

    Oh man. Farmer 1, Warrior 1. Wonder what the result will be~

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaZodiac View Post
    Oh, it's a loot thing I can bring into battle. I thought it was just...a thing that is always on

    Oh man. Farmer 1, Warrior 1. Wonder what the result will be~
    Oops, I said favourite, I meant favoured. You felt it was the weakest so far, not that you didn't like it. I'd like to see you take on the next dungeon(s) with your weakest classes (weighting them including the equipment you've gathered for them so far).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaZodiac View Post
    Anyway, we start our first new area, The Ghost Fens! And we start off with a pretty short but also pretty difficult dungeon, the Bloated Grotto. Black Jellies are encounterable here naturally (much to my chagrin) but for the most part, I manage fine enough. I'm still not sure on how Frogs work specifically, though. Thankfully, the Warrior is tanky as hell and all his powers are great (though I'm still not entirely sure how to use Dervish the most effectively). I think he's my favorite class right now.
    I'm really happy the Ghost Fens look really different and spooky compared to Sproggiwood, just as I'd hoped. It doesn't at all look like the green meadows on the map, though.

    And I think it might actually jump between all enemies within 2 squares of your original square, dealing massive damage. Not quite the extreme combo-strike I was imagining, but still pretty powerful. Especially when you upgrade it to its second level.

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    What really sealed the deal for this run though was the new fire sword I got. It decimated enemies quite handily! Though yes, I can easily see it back firing if Black Jellies are about. Risk vs Reward and all that. We're also introduced to Purple Jellies. I'm not ENTIRELY sure how their puddle works, but judging from what I see it causes a chain reaction of lightning between all puddles within a certain range. Thank goodness for Shield Wall.
    I loved to see that flow of fire crawl down the corridors and round the corners into rooms you'd yet to see!

    Also, I wonder if that lightning will hit enemies instead. In that case: Faraday's cage!

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    Finally, we get to Rumakko. And honestly...this boss is kinda lame. Maybe it's because I just don't know how frogs work, or because the Warrior is just so buff, but Rumakko seems incredibly easy! He doesn't even seem to do much of anything except punch things that are nearby! It's weird. Point is, I end up killing him offscreen as I farm for stamina from his frog minions. OOPS! For defeating the frog king, we get a choice of his pot or his jewel. I picked Rumakko's Urn because I'm a cheater like that. I'm sure most of you are going to be annoyed at my decision to shackle some of my possible victories to the god of luck.
    I honestly don't see it as cheating, I'm just mourning all the extra loot I'm never going to see. I wouldn't go with the urn simply because Sproggiwood doesn't penalise death enough, especially for a Roguelike...

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    Oh also hey I don't have any new classes next video so uh...pick what I should use! You have until Sunday to vote. Gonna be an informal vote, no Strawpoll or anything.
    Hmm, tricky. The sheer tankiness of the Warrior is awesome, and at the same time, I kinda miss the Archer for its nice, ranged capabilities. However, the farmer should definitely deserve more screen time, having been left out ever since his short run of Ickykolo...


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    All things said and done though, the greatest mystery of them all remain: What was Joukahainen doing under your bridge?
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    The villagers react...strangely to the set dressings of the environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaZodiac View Post
    Okay, time for Sproggiwood!
    I picked Rumakko's Urn because I'm a cheater like that. I'm sure most of you are going to be annoyed at my decision to shackle some of my possible victories to the god of luck.

    Oh also hey I don't have any new classes next video so uh...pick what I should use! You have until Sunday to vote. Gonna be an informal vote, no Strawpoll or anything.
    More like annoyed at sacrificing treasure for such a low chance to respawn, but whatever.

    Thief, because ninja shenanigans are the best.

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    Also, I wonder if that lightning will hit enemies instead. In that case: Faraday's cage!
    This is now my favorite use of the warrior class.
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    Hehe. I giggled when you cashed the Scroll of Wonder; I use those every time I find one, just 'cause I can't pass up the chance for more xp, potentially lethal though it may be. (I also maxed out Academy Expansion pretty much first thing. Extra levels make everything more fun. :D)

    And while I agree that the Jewel is probably a better choice overall, that's just because I prefer death-preventing measures to death-reversing ones. I'm sure the Urn will be very satisfying when it does trigger.

    I'm sure you can guess my class vote (Identity Crisis). But assuming you don't want to be quite that bound to luck, I say go with the Farmer. It's my favourite so far, and as Teddy mentioned, we haven't seen it in a while.

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    Found a highly amusing combo yesterday. Thief's Hide in Shadows (might require level 3, not sure) and Warrior's Charge. The latter doesn't break invisibility, so you can clear an entire room or two without being seen. I might have to experiment with it some more to see what other skills you can use like that.
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    Oh, and I just remembered. After first having thought you had Frostbarb Sword from the start, and not Freezing, I didn't particulary think about it when you killed two mushrooms in one strike there at the very start. The one which teleported out of nowhere was still odd, but oh well, lilypad shenanigans, I suppose...

    However, when you found the Frostbarb Sword in that chest, I suddenly got a bit confused. Wait, couldn't you hit enemies away from you before? But what about that mushroom back at the very start? I naturally had to look back to it, and suddenly I got it: What's special about the purple mushrooms is that they turn invisible. What I'd seen as a mushroom getting killed from afar and another teleporting in was actually the same mushroom which had been trying to sneak away from you in the midst of the battle!
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    Oh, and I just remembered. After first having thought you had Frostbarb Sword from the start, and not Freezing, I didn't particulary think about it when you killed two mushrooms in one strike there at the very start. The one which teleported out of nowhere was still odd, but oh well, lilypad shenanigans, I suppose...

    However, when you found the Frostbarb Sword in that chest, I suddenly got a bit confused. Wait, couldn't you hit enemies away from you before? But what about that mushroom back at the very start? I naturally had to look back to it, and suddenly I got it: What's special about the purple mushrooms is that they turn invisible. What I'd seen as a mushroom getting killed from afar and another teleporting in was actually the same mushroom which had been trying to sneak away from you in the midst of the battle!
    Oh hooo, interesting. They're Thief mushrooms! They really are adapting fast...they'll be a danger for our civilization, I think.

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    Oh hooo, interesting. They're Thief mushrooms! They really are adapting fast...they'll be a danger for our civilization, I think.
    I know! It's almost as if they'll soon have universities and everything!

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    A vote for Farmer for me, please.

    All in all, a very entertaining game/LP.

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    i'm gonna pitch in with the vote, and say farmer
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    A vote for Farmer for me, please.

    All in all, a very entertaining game/LP.

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    What makes the Farmer so OP?
    Yeah, the farmer hasn't had much love since... well... the very first level. I don't think it has been played at all since then. (Not an additional vote, I already voted for farmer before.)

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    Well, I always completely ignore the pitchfork. It is just too weak in comparison to the other skills. It is, however, the only skill which uses only one stamina point, meaning that my farmers always require a lot of stamina recovery.

    I first stock up on the bombs, which are pretty darn sweet on their own, but still pretty weak in comparison to what you can do. They blow up in a 3x3 grid, unlike the thief traps which blow horizontally and vertically.

    Between level 1-4 the priority is bombs and then ward. With low level ward, you can make the enemies ignore you and run away for a few turns when cow dung hits the fan. But it's level 3 upgrade is the best. All enemies start attacking each other. Yes, you get experience and stamina refills for all enemies that die due to this.

    However, that's still not the best bit. The best bit comes at levels 5 and 10. For three stamina points you can instantly heal to full health or full health +30 respectively.

    Yes. Full heal. Whenever you want. As long as you have three stamina. Even more than full health at level 10.

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    Why are those frogs eating each other?

    So we're off to save some mushrooms again. If those mushrooms are so eager to kill themselves, why not just let them? You are at war with them, after all.

    And... I'll cast a vote for Archer. Haven't seen much archering lately.

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    Why are those frogs eating each other?
    They're super hungry?

    I dunno, but I often use it to my advantage when there's a room full of frogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Ghost View Post
    Why are those frogs eating each other?

    So we're off to save some mushrooms again. If those mushrooms are so eager to kill themselves, why not just let them? You are at war with them, after all.

    And... I'll cast a vote for Archer. Haven't seen much archering lately.
    My best guess from studying the footage is that if you are in any spaces away from a frog in a Cross pattern, and the frog's eyes are open, it'll suck you in with his tongue. He randomly chooses from any available targets, however.

    Because Sproggi doesn't WANT to be at war with em

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    That was a pretty good video. Loads of frogs and some square thing with a sword killing everything. Also, the double take at Mr Creepy was funny. The warrior has ridiculous health: with the right equipment you have about twice as much as the other classes.


    That sword was ridiculous as well: 4-6 damge that gets nearly everything in front of you and goes through walls? I wonder if Toady suffered for being so large and recieved an extra roasting? Still, accidently killing the boss is a great story. Can you attack the air and just throw walls of fire at things far away?

    I'm going to cast my vote for Archer. Sniping things from around the corner and stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Durkoala View Post
    That was a pretty good video. Loads of frogs and some square thing with a sword killing everything. Also, the double take at Mr Creepy was funny. The warrior has ridiculous health: with the right equipment you have about twice as much as the other classes.


    That sword was ridiculous as well: 4-6 damge that gets nearly everything in front of you and goes through walls? I wonder if Toady suffered for being so large and recieved an extra roasting? Still, accidently killing the boss is a great story. Can you attack the air and just throw walls of fire at things far away?

    I'm going to cast my vote for Archer. Sniping things from around the corner and stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Durkoala View Post
    That was a pretty good video. Loads of frogs and some square thing with a sword killing everything. Also, the double take at Mr Creepy was funny. The warrior has ridiculous health: with the right equipment you have about twice as much as the other classes.


    That sword was ridiculous as well: 4-6 damge that gets nearly everything in front of you and goes through walls? I wonder if Toady suffered for being so large and recieved an extra roasting? Still, accidently killing the boss is a great story. Can you attack the air and just throw walls of fire at things far away?

    I'm going to cast my vote for Archer. Sniping things from around the corner and stuff.
    Nope, you can't just attack the air, somewhat tragically though obviously fairly.

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    Nope, you can't just attack the air, somewhat tragically though obviously fairly.
    I've wanted to do this so many times...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durkoala View Post
    That sword was ridiculous as well: 4-6 damge that gets nearly everything in front of you and goes through walls? I wonder if Toady suffered for being so large and recieved an extra roasting? Still, accidently killing the boss is a great story. Can you attack the air and just throw walls of fire at things far away?

    I'm going to cast my vote for Archer. Sniping things from around the corner and stuff.
    I want to see a bow with that power. Flooding everything with fire the second you see an enemy would be pretty great!
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    I want to see a bow with that power. Flooding everything with fire the second you see an enemy would be pretty great!
    Sadly, while consumables and items are shared between classes (finding it with one class puts it in the store for all, buying it with one class buys it for all), weapons and armour are unique to each class (each class needs to find each weapon and armour they have available to unlock it in the store, and purchase the weapon or armour only for themselves).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawhide View Post
    Sadly, while consumables and items are shared between classes (finding it with one class puts it in the store for all, buying it with one class buys it for all), weapons and armour are unique to each class (each class needs to find each weapon and armour they have available to unlock it in the store, and purchase the weapon or armour only for themselves).
    Yeah, I didn't demand Zodi to acquire any such, I just said that I wanted to see one such bow, as in see the existence of it.
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    Yeah, I didn't demand Zodi to acquire any such, I just said that I wanted to see one such bow, as in see the existence of it.
    I mean, while she can buy that sword as a warrior because she's found it as a warrior, she hasn't found a bow which is quite as good. She will need to find a similar bow through further playing before she can use or buy it.

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    I mean, while she can buy that sword as a warrior because she's found it as a warrior, she hasn't found a bow which is quite as good. She will need to find a similar bow through further playing before she can use or buy it.
    Fingers crossed on that one. Raining fiery death on everyone and thing is one of my favorite things to do in any game ever.

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    Fingers crossed on that one. Raining fiery death on everyone and thing is one of my favorite things to do in any game ever.
    I wonder if one exists. I will admit that I'm more of a defensive player, so I didn't specialise in fire, and am not sure what exists as far as fire goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawhide View Post
    I mean, while she can buy that sword as a warrior because she's found it as a warrior, she hasn't found a bow which is quite as good. She will need to find a similar bow through further playing before she can use or buy it.
    Yes, but my thoughts still aren't about buying any such. In fact, I share the same thought as you on the matter:
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    I wonder if one exists.
    ... with the added wish that it actually does, so I one way could get to see floods of fiery waves cascade from each arrow impact.
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    Yes, but my thoughts still aren't about buying any such. In fact, I share the same thought as you on the matter:

    ... with the added wish that it actually does, so I one way could get to see floods of fiery waves cascade from each arrow impact.
    I really want to know which way the fire would go. Logically, it should run away from you, but you never know.
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    Is it Monday yet?

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    Yes Rawhide, it is in fact Monday. Didn't do a midnight release because I wanted to get SOME sleep for my work this week

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    And so begins the next dungeon! Trusty vampiric pitchfork in tow, we head off! And boy let me tell you, I've gotten a newfound appreciation for the Farmer fellow. He's tanky as all hell, and the scarecrow is an amazing ability. And with the pumpkin bombs to quickly make work of Jellies, it's pretty clear that the Farmer is a great class. And for once I didn't find some super broken mega weapon, so this is all on our powers. Cornucopia in particular allowed me to beat Mr Creepy rather soundly. Also, turns out Mr Creepy is good friends with Big Ick, as he too is rife with interesting discourse and discussion.

    Plot wise this episode we uh...encounter a strange Cloghead. A little less strange because we saw some in a previous episode due to scroll or shrine tomfoolery. As for the mushrooms? They're infected with vampirism! Uh oh! Sproggi wants us to go to the vampire cave to kill the head vampire, an evil wisp monster. He wants us to contain the vampirism...and from a certain perspective this will be correct

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    Judging from the fact that we saved a wisp from Mr Creepy's dungeon, and the next one is full of wisps, and just a general theory of mine, I think the Ghostfens are supposed to be Kyopelinvuori. It's a place where dead women haunt (and the Wisp we met this episode is female, I think). It's a place where dead father and witches come together and stuff, so it's clearly intended to be all spooky and stuff. But aside from that, I also think it might have a connection to Aarnivalkea, which are magical places where Will o Wisps gather to denote that fairy gold and other treasures are in hiding. Since there are Wisps around, that seems appropriate a theory. Though now I'm wondering...how does a wisp of fairy fire gain vampirism, exactly?

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    Default Re: Zodi Plays: Sproggiwood

    Quote Originally Posted by LaZodiac View Post
    Yes Rawhide, it is in fact Monday.
    Woo, it's Monday!

    Quote Originally Posted by LaZodiac View Post
    Note: A steam friend popped up in the video! Does anyone know how to remove steam pop ups so this doesn't happen?
    You can log off the Steam chat program. Or do you mean something less drastic?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaZodiac View Post
    And so begins the next dungeon! Trusty vampiric pitchfork in tow, we head off! And boy let me tell you, I've gotten a newfound appreciation for the Farmer fellow. He's tanky as all hell, and the scarecrow is an amazing ability. And with the pumpkin bombs to quickly make work of Jellies, it's pretty clear that the Farmer is a great class. And for once I didn't find some super broken mega weapon, so this is all on our powers. Cornucopia in particular allowed me to beat Mr Creepy rather soundly. Also, turns out Mr Creepy is good friends with Big Ick, as he too is rife with interesting discourse and discussion.
    What have I been saying?

    Granted, most of this has been in spoilers which you still shouldn't open. But I did say the farmer was more powerful than you gave it credence for a few times out in the open.

    "My Hobby: Replacing your soap with gravy" by rtg0922, Doll and Clint "Rawhide" Eastwood by Sneak

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