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2014-12-12, 07:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
Obviously not now, but during DStP. There were so many ways that he could have resolved the plots if he knew he had telekinesis and possession . Obviously he didn't because then the story would've sucked. It'd just be really funny to see Roy really angry
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2014-12-12, 07:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
That's a pretty silly question. Of course he would be quite angry, but his actions were based on his inability to do anything besides watch in the material world.
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2014-12-12, 08:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
On a related topic, I would like to know how Eugene contacts Roy through the sword and ,for certain, why Roy can't do the same to others. It would have certainly been very different if Roy could have communicated with Haley or Elan.
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2014-12-12, 09:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-12-12, 09:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-12-12, 09:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-12-12, 10:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
It's at least implied by Eugene that the family heirloom lets Eugene talk to Roy, only; presumably other family members would be eligible, but non-family would not see/hear the ghost manifesting. I took it as pretty clear that the family connection was the key.
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2014-12-13, 05:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
Eugene was visible to others in the trial scene.
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2014-12-13, 05:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
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2014-12-13, 06:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
Didn't someone say before that it was explained in Start of Darkness, and Eugene could ONLY appear to Roy without external help (i.e., as in Shojo's throne room).
(Anyone who can confirm/refute, feel free!)Last edited by Reboot; 2014-12-13 at 06:58 AM.
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2014-12-13, 11:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
Yeah, at the end of Eugene's Intake Interview. Whether or not it would've passed to Julia or if the Oath kind of hung fire while people were planning on rezzing Roy, we don't know. Even the Giant may not have bothered to figure that one out.
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2014-12-15, 11:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
And I would guess only actual blood relations would be included, so if Sarah had still been alive, it wouldn't allow her to be communicated with.
Could be an interesting way of getting a quest going in a game - someone obtains an item, but they happen to be something like the great^14th-grandchild of the original owner, whose spirit not only has to give them and aid them on the quest, but explain the entire family tree back to themselves.
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2014-12-15, 12:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
Throw in some automatic writing like Agents of SHIELD was using earlier this season for some more weirdness. I mean, what would you think if one of your friends started writing French in the style of the reign of Louis Quatorze?
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2014-12-15, 12:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2014-12-15, 02:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
That explicitly wasn't the same. Eugene was actually summoned down to the material plane for that (although the summoner's intention was to bring a being of law, not a random ghost), rather than just coming under his own power.
She's not blood related to the Greenhilts above Roy/Julia in the family tree. So as far as the Greenhilt sword is concerned, she would probably not count as "part of the family". If a family heirloom is necessary for this sort of communication to happen, Roy would probably need one from his mother's side of the family to talk to her in this hypothetical scenario.
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2014-12-15, 06:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-12-15, 06:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2014-12-16, 08:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
Exactly.
If we assume 2 children per descendant per generation (some may have more children, but some may die childless), 2^16 (14 greats, and the 2 generations to cover the grandchild bit) is 65536 members of your generation, plus those surviving from the previous generations (as a rough guesstimate, call it 100,000 people total?).
By comparison, the Great Plague wiped out around 60,000 people in the City of London, which was roughly 20% of the population at the time. So while your forebear could have effectively populated a large town or maybe a small city with their bloodline, they're a long way off a continent.
And yes, ok, if we assume 3 children, that puts it up at around 43 million, and 4's 4.2 billion.
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2014-12-16, 11:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
For a frame of reference, Charlemagne is an ancestor for about half of Europe. That'd be 1200 years or so.
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2014-12-16, 11:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-12-16, 11:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-12-26, 02:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-12-26, 11:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
THAT much!
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2014-12-26, 12:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
Eugene was able to contact Roy by the same method he was able to scry on the mortal realm: he is a wizard. Roy, not being a wizard, could not scry on the mortal realm without help.
It was only Roy's speculation that made the Sword any part of the equation, though it may well have helped Eugene to have a familiar item upon which to focus while casting his Etheral Jaunt, or whichever means of projection he used to appear to Roy.
Possession and telekinesis are also wizard's spells. Roy really blew it by not going to Wizard College. Now had Roy been reanimated as a poltergeist he would have had ample opportunity to screw with the remaining OotS gang, but then he would have missed out on his meeting with Eric.
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2014-12-26, 12:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2014-12-26, 01:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
Isn't Roy more of an "oathspirit" (for which we have no particular stats) rather than a "ghost" (which has D&D stats)?
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So the song runs on, with shift and change,
Through the years that have no name,
And the late notes soar to a higher range,
But the theme is still the same.
Man's battle-cry and the guns' reply
Blend in with the old, old rhyme
That was traced in the score of the strata marks
While millenniums winked like campfire sparks
Down the winds of unguessed time. -- 4th Stanza, The Bad Lands, Badger Clark
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2014-12-26, 03:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How angry would Roy be if he found out he had ghost powers
I dont think Roy ever had any ghost powers because he got Dismissed by the oracle in 572, leading me to believe he was just some type of Outsider with unknown if any power.
i dont even think Eugene was a proper ghost, just an Outsider with magical know-how.