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    Ogre in the Playground
     
    Laserlight's Avatar

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    Default Optimize This Party: The Bard

    Since the board has been rather quiet lately, and since our GM said "you can rebuild your character until you start Paragon", which will be next week....I'm going to solicit your expert advice. What paragon path and why? What powers should be replaced? Any special tricks or tactics?

    The campaign primarily focuses on combat. All our stats are unusual due to DM's house rule. Party is prescient bard, scout, pyro mage,
    paladin/barbarian hybrid, and artificer. We'll start with the Bard.

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    ====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
    Audrie, level 11
    Half-Elf, Bard, Karmic Shaper
    Bardic Virtue Option: Virtue of Prescience
    Signs of Influence Option: Welcome Guest
    Signs of Influence Option: Demand Audience
    Half-Elf Power Selection Option: Knack for Success
    Occupation - Entertainer (+2 to Bluff)
    Theme: Scholar

    FINAL ABILITY SCORES
    STR 14, CON 16, DEX 19, INT 15, WIS 18, CHA 24


    AC: 23 Fort: 22 Ref: 24 Will: 27
    HP: 78 Surges: 10 Surge Value: 19

    TRAINED SKILLS
    Arcana +12, Athletics +12, Diplomacy +19, Insight +18, Perception +16, Religion +12

    UNTRAINED SKILLS
    Acrobatics +14, Bluff +18, Dungeoneering +13, Endurance +12, Heal +13, History +11, Intimidate +16, Nature +13, Stealth +14, Streetwise +16, Thievery +13

    POWERS
    Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack
    Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack
    Scholar Utility: Use Vulnerability
    Half-Elf Racial Power: Knack for Success
    Bard Feature: Majestic Word
    Bard Feature: Words of Friendship
    Bard Attack 1: Staggering Note
    Bard Attack 1: Victim of the Feywild
    Bard Attack 1: Jinx Shot
    Bard Attack 1: Arrow of Warning
    Bard Utility 2: Beguiling Ballad
    Bard Attack 3: Rhyme of the Blood-Seeking Blade
    Bard Attack 5: Song of Discord
    Bard Utility 6: Revitalizing Incantation
    Bard Attack 7: Prescient Warning
    Bard Attack 9: Saga of Vengeance
    Bard Utility 10: Illusory Erasure
    Karmic Shaper Attack 11: Karmic Wound

    FEATS
    Level 1: Ritual Caster
    Level 1: Bard of All Trades
    Level 2: Weapon Proficiency (Greatbow)
    Level 8: Extended Prescience
    Level 9: Battle Song Expertise
    Level 10: Prescient Fortification
    Level 10: Improved Defenses
    Level 11: Majestic Rescue

    ITEMS
    Gloves of Agility x1
    Deep-Pocket Cloak +2 x1
    Pelor's Sun Blessing (level 8)
    Diadem of Acuity x1
    Shadowdance Leather Armor +2 x1
    Howling Songbow Greatbow +3 x1
    ====== End ======
    Junior, half orc paladin of the Order of St Dale the Intimidator: "Ah cain't abide no murderin' scoundrel."

    Tactical Precepts: 1) Cause chaos, then exploit it; 2) No plan survives contact with...(sigh)...my subordinates.

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    Pixie in the Playground
     
    PaladinGuy

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    Default Re: Optimize This Party: The Bard

    The obvious question is why Knack for Success instead of using Dilettante to pick up Twin Strike? Since you are already a greatbow-wielding half-elf bard, seems pretty natural.

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    Ogre in the Playground
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    Default Re: Optimize This Party: The Bard

    Quote Originally Posted by Tafkam Hokie View Post
    The obvious question is why Knack for Success instead of using Dilettante to pick up Twin Strike? Since you are already a greatbow-wielding half-elf bard, seems pretty natural.
    He's a Wis-heavy Leader. Magic Weapon fits better.

    TBH, the best thing to do here is to go half-Cleric, so you get great AC, healing and buffing, while mixing with enabling and debuffing from the Bard. Also Warlord MC works great.
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    Ogre in the Playground
     
    SolithKnightGuy

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    Default Re: Optimize This Party: The Bard

    Quote Originally Posted by Tafkam Hokie View Post
    The obvious question is why Knack for Success instead of using Dilettante to pick up Twin Strike? Since you are already a greatbow-wielding half-elf bard, seems pretty natural.
    She already had twin strike and afaik isn't planning to stack enough statics to make it worth it. She was unhappy with it and may have retrained it already.

    Quote Originally Posted by GPuzzle View Post
    TBH, the best thing to do here is to go half-Cleric, so you get great AC, healing and buffing, while mixing with enabling and debuffing from the Bard. Also Warlord MC works great.
    I already called dibs on the hybrid Cleric
    I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel

    Former DM for "A City Alone" [4E D&D - IC, OOC]

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    Ogre in the Playground
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    Default Re: Optimize This Party: The Bard

    In that case, Dilletante for Magic Weapon.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dienekes View Post
    The Joker is supposed to be a nightmarish figure, the culmination of all things despicable and horrible about mankind. Of course he's a hipster.

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    Ogre in the Playground
     
    SolithKnightGuy

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    Default Re: Optimize This Party: The Bard

    We've got an Artificer as well
    I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel

    Former DM for "A City Alone" [4E D&D - IC, OOC]

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    Ogre in the Playground
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    Default Re: Optimize This Party: The Bard

    Paint the Bullseye, then.
    Last edited by GPuzzle; 2015-07-13 at 09:57 AM.

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