The Index of the Giant's Comments V―On a Saner Forum, We Wouldn't Need this Index

[Kish]

It should be included.

[SaintRidley]

Agreed, include that.

[Peelee]

Thirded. Bonus point for being amusing.

[D.One]

Fourthed, if that word exists. Completely worthy of inclusion.

[137beth]

Yes, definitely include that one.

[Doug Lampert]

Include.

I got curious:

285 & 406: A Moment of Truth (Shojo stops Miko from killing the Order, Miko kills Shojo)
681 & 842: All in the Family
401 & 720: Breakfast of Champions
412 & 1073: Catching Up
72 & 832: Loose Ends
413 & 1008: Not to Scale
433 & 924: Resource Management
146 & 590: Role Reversal
168 & 879: Running on Empty
333 & 877: The Bright Side (Durkon reacts to learning he'll go home posthumously, Durkon Dies)

Appear to be the only duplicates, so a total of 10 as of comic 1147.

Edited to add: Only the first and last look to me like someone might think "callback" rather than "coincidence".

[Ruck]

I seem to remember "Masters Mastering Mastery" had a different title when it was first posted, and Rich changed it after it was pointed out, but I don't feel like looking it up.

[LadyEowyn]

I seem to remember "Masters Mastering Mastery" had a different title when it was first posted, and Rich changed it after it was pointed out, but I don't feel like looking it up.

Yes, it was called "Followers Follow", same as the strip where Haley kills Golem Crystal.

[Emanick]

Odd that in one instance, a strip title appears twice in the same book (All In The Family, 681 and 842). That seems like the sort of thing Rich would want to go out of his way to avoid.

[factotum]

Odd that in one instance, a strip title appears twice in the same book (All In The Family, 681 and 842). That seems like the sort of thing Rich would want to go out of his way to avoid.

But as the linked quote explains, he doesn't? He picks a name that sounds good at the time he uploads the strip and doesn't care overmuch if it's a duplicate. Even though those two strips were part of the same book they would have been months or even years apart in terms of when he actually uploaded them, so not surprising he might forget he'd already used the name.

[Emanick]

But as the linked quote explains, he doesn't? He picks a name that sounds good at the time he uploads the strip and doesn't care overmuch if it's a duplicate. Even though those two strips were part of the same book they would have been months or even years apart in terms of when he actually uploaded them, so not surprising he might forget he'd already used the name.

That's... not how I would put it. He explicitly says wants to avoid duplicates, and clearly cares enough to change the name if he notices the repetition (though I assume he might not do so if too much time had passed). I mean, yes, he obviously forgot that he reused the comic name - what's striking to me is that there's one set of duplicates within the span of a single book, which strikes me as more undesirable to someone who wants to avoid duplicates than two names that only appear in separate books.

I mean, it's not that important, just something that stood out to me. But I'm not sure how what I said was inaccurate.

[b_jonas]

But as the linked quote explains, he doesn't? He picks a name that sounds good at the time he uploads the strip and doesn't care overmuch if it's a duplicate.

And it happens to other comic strip writers too. Darths & Droids has what's supposed to be unique strip titles, and when we point out a duplicate title, the creators change one.

[pearl jam]

That's... not how I would put it. He explicitly says wants to avoid duplicates, and clearly cares enough to change the name if he notices the repetition (though I assume he might not do so if too much time had passed). I mean, yes, he obviously forgot that he reused the comic name - what's striking to me is that there's one set of duplicates within the span of a single book, which strikes me as more undesirable to someone who wants to avoid duplicates than two names that only appear in separate books.

I mean, it's not that important, just something that stood out to me. But I'm not sure how what I said was inaccurate.

I think it was your suggestion that he would "go out of his way to avoid [reusing the same name within a single book]" while the quote doesn't appear to suggest that, though I guess he presumably is discarding titles that he remembers he's already used. Going "out of his way to avoid" would suggest, to me at least, that he was doing something like review titles he's already used since the last compilation before/while coming up with strip titles, but it would seem that he doesn't make any special effort of that kind.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Include.

I got curious:

285 & 406: A Moment of Truth (Shojo stops Miko from killing the Order, Miko kills Shojo)
681 & 842: All in the Family
401 & 720: Breakfast of Champions
412 & 1073: Catching Up
72 & 832: Loose Ends
413 & 1008: Not to Scale
433 & 924: Resource Management
146 & 590: Role Reversal
168 & 879: Running on Empty
333 & 877: The Bright Side (Durkon reacts to learning he'll go home posthumously, Durkon Dies)

Appear to be the only duplicates, so a total of 10 as of comic 1147.

Edited to add: Only the first and last look to me like someone might think "callback" rather than "coincidence".

I did say give or take 11. Here's my list:

924 Resource Management
433 Resource Management
879 Running on Empty
168 Running on Empty
877 The Bright Side
333 The Bright Side
842 All in the Family
681 All in the Family
832 Loose Ends
72 Loose Ends
720 Breakfast of Champions
401 Breakfast of Champions
590 Role Reversal
146 Role Reversal
406 A Moment of Truth
285 A Moment of Truth
413 Not to Scale
1008 Not to Scale
412 Catching Up
1073 Catching Up

Close Titles:
230 The Law Strikes Back
268 The Lawyers Strike Back
600 Headed Down
897 Headed Downtown
431 My Three Xykons
632 My Three Fiends
463 Shattered
636 Shattered, Shattered
428 It Takes a Thief
609 It Takes TWO Thieves, actually (Changed from "It Takes a Thief")
981 Followers Follow
1087 Masters Mastering Mastery (Changed from "Followers Follow")

[Cizak]

#428 and #609 were both named "It Takes a Thief" at first, until the second one was changed to "It Takes TWO Thieves, Actually".

[TheWombatOfDoom]

#428 and #609 were both named "It Takes a Thief" at first, until the second one was changed to "It Takes TWO Thieves, Actually".

Awesome addition, thanks!

[Zherog]

This little bit of trivia is interesting, I guess. But I'm not sure what listing specific comics has to do with discussion of the quote. *shrug*

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Also, I'm in favor of adding all the recently-mentioned quotes, since I'm here.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

This little bit of trivia is interesting, I guess. But I'm not sure what listing specific comics has to do with discussion of the quote. *shrug*

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Also, I'm in favor of adding all the recently-mentioned quotes, since I'm here.

A tad off topic, yes, but people mentioned and I had the info. Glad people like the submission. It's my first one!

[martianmister]

230 The Law Strikes Back

Should've called it "The Chaos Strikes Back."

428 It Takes a Thief

Should've called it "It takes a Chaotic"
(to catch a Chaotic).

[Jasdoif]

OK, so I think we're looking at...

Tentative Updates for Index 5.9
🍌Don't Expect Any More Tribute Strips	#1147	2018/11/27
🍌Repeated Strip Titles are Accidental	#1088	2017/08/04
"Lawful" vs "Legal" More here and here.	#891	2013/06/03
🍌On the Legality of Miko Arresting the Order of the Stick Shojo was asserting "holy" authority for the charges, and no secular authority opposed Miko detaining the Order.	#251	2005/12/01

The banana emoji signifies the main entry is new to the Index version; which is why the entry with the added "see also" doesn't have one.

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I haven't been here before, but I think both should be included.

You're able to post, so your expressed opinion counts as much as everyone else's!

[Kish]

That's... not how I would put it. He explicitly says wants to avoid duplicates, and clearly cares enough to change the name if he notices the repetition (though I assume he might not do so if too much time had passed). I mean, yes, he obviously forgot that he reused the comic name - what's striking to me is that there's one set of duplicates within the span of a single book, which strikes me as more undesirable to someone who wants to avoid duplicates than two names that only appear in separate books.

I mean, it's not that important, just something that stood out to me. But I'm not sure how what I said was inaccurate.

I also got that he cares about avoiding duplicates.

However, I think he doesn't check previous titles at all; he changed "Followers Follow Part 2: This Time It's Personal" only because someone explicitly pointed out right away "hey, that's the same title as this earlier strip."

[Peelee]

I'm cool with it. Also, 251-1147 is one heckuva spread..

[Ron Miel]

I approve of all the proposed updates.

[martianmister]

Include all.

[QuietEngineer25]

Include all changes.

[ArkenBrony]

i'd like to open a vote to change the language in the index guidelines

1) | He/She may reorganize the index if deemed necessary, though all reorganizations can be reversed by majority vote.

2) | He/She may immediately add a comment to the index without any vote, discussion, or consensus required if the comment obviously is in accordance with these agreed rules.

3) | He/She may never fully "reject" a comment's inclusion, however, he/she may postpone its inclusion until further discussion (and, if the divide in opinion appears even, a vote) decides the matter.

to They, instead of he/she

[Peelee]

i'd like to open a vote to change the language in the index guidelines



to They, instead of he/she

You didn't quote the immediately preceeding part:

Rule F: The index-keeper (Jasdoif) has the job of updating the index in keeping with thread-goer consensus.

While I'd normally be more or less indifferent in favor of that, given that the index-keeper is explicitly referred to as Jasdoif, I feel safe in assuming that he/she can refer to him/herself however he/she wants.

[ArkenBrony]

You didn't quote the immediately preceeding part:
While I'd normally be more or less indifferent in favor of that, given that the index-keeper is explicitly referred to as Jasdoif, I feel safe in assuming that he/she can refer to him/herself however he/she wants.

that's fair, though the way it's formatted looks and feels like a remnant of copy/pasting to be in line with whomever is in charge of the thread.

[D.One]

I vote Inclusion for all of them.

[Gwynfrid]

OK, so I think we're looking at...

Tentative Updates for Index 5.9
🍌Don't Expect Any More Tribute Strips	#1147	2018/11/27
🍌Repeated Strip Titles are Accidental	#1088	2017/08/04
"Lawful" vs "Legal" More here and here.	#891	2013/06/03
🍌On the Legality of Miko Arresting the Order of the Stick Shojo was asserting "holy" authority for the charges, and no secular authority opposed Miko detaining the Order.	#251	2005/12/01

The banana emoji signifies the main entry is new to the Index version; which is why the entry with the added "see also" doesn't have one.

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You're able to post, so your expressed opinion counts as much as everyone else's!

I'm in favor.