Civ 5 GMR 15: Return to normalcy

[Narkis]

Spoiler: China

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Kukulkan, The Great Feathered Serpent, approves of this exchange.

~Paca, Immortal Watcher

[DodgerH2O]

Spoiler: Morocco

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The Golden Hub of Austria has heard tales of a distant people. Our expedition reports fertile lands being worked by your civilization. We wish to send a member of our merchant council to reside in your diplomatic capital, near your leadership, whoever or whatever that may be. We invite your people to send a representative to our trading circle as well.

The Hub wishes for trading partners and we hope this exchange will lead to future profit for both parties. We have a supply of Gold that we would be willing to part with should your people acquire any commodity that the Hub cannot currently procure.

[RayGallade]

Spoiler: Austria

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Greetings friend. The people of the lush and burning land of Morocco have welcomed your envoy. We currently are examining possibilities of trade, though our proximity to our neighbors has made securing precious resources remarkably difficult. Perchance, does your Hub possess a port city?

Spoiler: America

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Although we have not participated in any official communication, we believe you have the right to know that the Moroccan Outpost Bureau (MOB) has nearly constructed an outpost south of New York. Current analysis says that our two cities will be slightly closer together than one might like (6 tiles instead of 7), but we promise not to expand our city boarders northward intentionally. We hope this outpost will be the beginning of a beautiful trading friendship.

Spoiler: Mongolia

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We are reaching out to you to inform you the MOB has found what appears to be a suitable outpost claim almost directly east of Trader's Rest. It is south of Mountain Prime and along the coast. We wish to inquire of your people would object to our claiming this territory, as it is substantially closer to Trader's Rest than to your lands.

Also, the Moroccan Investigation Bureau (MIB) reports no lands to the north of Mountain Prime for us to settle. Too many smaller states have already claimed the viable land.

[Croverus]

Spoiler: Morocco

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Upon reviewing our maps and consulting our plans of expansion, the region you are speaking of was of little interest to our people as we feel it would be too close to your city of Trader's rest and would incite unneeded aggression between our people. Those lands are yours to settle. We have only a single site west of our capital that we are planning for settlement; The hills with forests to it's north and west, just below where the river bends. It is beside a valuable source of iron for our people and is the closest we would ever consider settling to your lands. We understand it is much closer than is desired but do not plan on encouraging considerable growth in a westward direction and we are willing to share the iron we mine at low prices should you require the resource in the future. As our closest neighbor we feel it would be mutually beneficial to declare a friendship with one another and would like to set up an embassy in your city of Trader's rest, and in return we would build an embassy for you in our center Karakorum. We are open to negotiations for all of this, but would like to send the embassy request right away, as a show of good faith and to improve relations for the future.

[RayGallade]

Spoiler: Morocco

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Upon reviewing our maps and consulting our plans of expansion, the region you are speaking of was of little interest to our people as we feel it would be too close to your city of Trader's rest and would incite unneeded aggression between our people. Those lands are yours to settle. We have only a single site west of our capital that we are planning for settlement; The hills with forests to it's north and west, just below where the river bends. It is beside a valuable source of iron for our people and is the closest we would ever consider settling to your lands. We understand it is much closer than is desired but do not plan on encouraging considerable growth in a westward direction and we are willing to share the iron we mine at low prices should you require the resource in the future. As our closest neighbor we feel it would be mutually beneficial to declare a friendship with one another and would like to set up an embassy in your city of Trader's rest, and in return we would build an embassy for you in our center Karakorum. We are open to negotiations for all of this, but would like to send the embassy request right away, as a show of good faith and to improve relations for the future.

Spoiler: Mongolia

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Now that we have had time to review our maps and consult with the MOB, we believe that this is an acceptable arrangement. As for the iron, the MOB assures me there is a suitable deposit of equal riches at a potential outpost site. While we appreciate the offer for a favorable trade, we shall decline your offer for now. We have already sent a delegation to your lands, though an official declaration of friendship appear to have been forgotten in the trading papers. Should your diplomats request one, however, the Moroccan Institute of Trade (MIT) would happily announce to the world our great friendship. May our two peoples be forever allied.

[DodgerH2O]

Spoiler: Morocco

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At the moment both of the permanent trading centers run by The Golden Hub are port cities and we anticipate most future locations will be chosen with sea access in mind. We have discovered at least two bands of pirates between our lands and yours, however. Suitable military escorts must be present before the council considers the risk sufficiently mitigated to construct a trade fleet.

We would welcome a partnership to keep sea lanes open. We anticipate the dedication of at least one roving band of privateers flying the flag of the Hub, if the Moroccan people could do likewise we feel that would ensure smooth trading relations. Note that our current focus is on infrastructure, it will be many trading seasons before construction of either a cargo-hauling or protective fleet, but we wished to float the idea now to allow time for consideration.

[Croverus]

Spoiler: Morocco

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Excellent. We look forward to stepping forward into the future side by side. If any other nations should cause you trouble, know that our weapons will raise up in defense should you require it.

[Illven]

Spoiler: Sunday spectator update extravaganza

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Wu Zetian is always glad to welcome other nations into the classical era.



However, not too much effort can be spent on the welcoming party, because we have to deal with savages.



On the bright side, the population of Guangzhou continues to increase.



Our workers under Wu Zetian's guidance, continue to move effectively.



Our defense forces report no problems.




Okay.... That's a blatant lie, but nothing they can't handle.



Our slaves move to enslave horses.



And our scouting band still moves to meet the world.



I spy with my little eye, someone building a great lighthouse for I.



Wu Zetian has told our scholars to focus more on the killing power of bows.



Here we see the capital, hammering away. Trying to construct a building that improves our knowledge of other lands.



Shanghai works on a Barracks.



As Guangzhou works on a soon to be outdated archer squad.



Our government has undertaken no renovations recently.



We are best at everything but approval! Wu Zetian was recently heard muttering about how what more did the people want?










And our accumulated information about our foes.

[RayGallade]

Spoiler: Spectators

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In the year 1120 BC, the Moroccan Outpost Bureau established a foothold at the base of Mt. Kilimanjaro. In celebration, the outpost was named MountainSecunde. Master of Trade Ahmad al-Mansur cursed the MOB for instituting a character limit in outpost names.

[Illven]

Spoiler: Croverus; Mongolia

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Guess who's building the pyramids.

Morocco! Just thought you should know.

Spoiler: Austria; Dodgerh20

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Guess who's building the pyramids.

Morocco! Just thought you should know. Maybe you could beat them to it?

Spoiler: America; The snark

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Guess who's building the pyramids.

Morocco! Just thought you should know.

[DodgerH2O]

Spoiler: China

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OOC: Unfortunately I am not in a position to stop them. You almost convinced me you were in Renaissance already, but then I figured you're probably seeing a pyramid-shaped structure forming near their capital and haven't somehow already gotten spies :)

[Croverus]

Spoiler: China

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Thank you for this, our scouts have spotted a structure being built that we assume are the pyramids. We were considering starting it, but it is unlikely that we can build one before them. We would like to exchange embassies, to improve future relations between our people. We are opening embassies in our city for other nations. We are preparing to have our soldiers expanding their patrols to fight the barbarians we have noticed still plaguing other lands. We have cleaned out the camps in our own lands and have decided to help other nations that are still plagued by these raiders. If you have any camps that are causing your people issues we can make plans to send warriors to help clear them out.

[Illven]

Spoiler: Croverus; Mongolia

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We would approve of the trading of embassies.

As for the aid of our warriors, while we appreciate the offer, our people are more then strong enough ourselves, to be having no problems with the barbarians.

~Queen Wu Zetian of China

[DodgerH2O]

Spoiler: Ethiopia

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The Golden Hub has heard tales of the fine Cotton your people use for fabrics and wishes to exchange some of our surplus Gold for a regular supply of the fiber. Our scouts inform us that you have an abundance in lands near your cities but our merchant council would be grateful if they could get ahold of the luxury as soon as possible. In return we will give your nation priority in regards to availability of future goods and trade routes. If this sounds fair just let our Ambassador know during your next meeting.

OOC: My capital wants Cotton, and if you give up your current single copy for my extra Gold resource I'll make your cities a priority for trade routes and if in the future you need a resource I have I'll return the favor. I notice you have another currently unclaimed tile within easy reach of your lands so it will eventually be a spare lux for a spare lux trade.

[Zevox]

Spoiler: Ethiopia

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The Golden Hub has heard tales of the fine Cotton your people use for fabrics and wishes to exchange some of our surplus Gold for a regular supply of the fiber. Our scouts inform us that you have an abundance in lands near your cities but our merchant council would be grateful if they could get ahold of the luxury as soon as possible. In return we will give your nation priority in regards to availability of future goods and trade routes. If this sounds fair just let our Ambassador know during your next meeting.

OOC: My capital wants Cotton, and if you give up your current single copy for my extra Gold resource I'll make your cities a priority for trade routes and if in the future you need a resource I have I'll return the favor. I notice you have another currently unclaimed tile within easy reach of your lands so it will eventually be a spare lux for a spare lux trade.

Spoiler: Austria (Dodger H20)

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I must admit I'm hesitant about that. While it's true I can get several, I hadn't planned on constructing another Cotton plantation in the near future, since I feel my worker's time is more urgently needed elsewhere right now. And until I do, a deal like this gains me nothing.

That said, some goodwill and trade routes are worth considering. I'll... make my decision when my next turn comes around, I think.

[Illven]

Spoiler: Spectators

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In the year 880 BC. The Oracle had finished construction in Bejing.

By the grace of Wu Zetian, may the old ways never die.

Spoiler: Narkis;Maya

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You expressed interest in our plans.

As long as you can be sworn to secrecy, and can tell us if Ryuho is building the hanging gardens in his capital. We can tell you our plans.

~Queen Wu Zetian of China.

[DodgerH2O]

Spoiler: Ethiopia

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Understood. Keep in mind such a deal gains you nothing immediately but also costs you nothing, unless you expect to get your own supply of Gold soon. We anticipate the funding for a cargo ship will be ready within 8 or so trading cycles and would provide you with a reliable income for quite some time, barring pirate interference.

[Zevox]

Spoiler: Ethiopia

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Understood. Keep in mind such a deal gains you nothing immediately but also costs you nothing, unless you expect to get your own supply of Gold soon. We anticipate the funding for a cargo ship will be ready within 8 or so trading cycles and would provide you with a reliable income for quite some time, barring pirate interference.

Spoiler: Austria

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Alright, I decided to take the deal. I'll just make another plantation a slightly higher priority than it was going to be I suppose. Maybe that'll be the first job of the third worker I pop out or something.

[Narkis]

Spoiler: China

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They do not appear to be doing so.

And we shall not betray your trust.

[Illven]

Spoiler: Narkis;Maya

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Our plans are simple. To Cho-ku-nu the Austrians. They built for us the great lighthouse. They will be thanked in the next life.

Spoiler: Partial spectator update

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So because photobucket is being a pain in the behind, and I'm not fighting it now. I am tired.

The highlights reel.

We opened honor. Go us!

We are still top of the demo's in alot of stuff.

And since it's past turn 50, my current gaming plan update.

Cho-ku-nu the hell out of the Austrians.

[DodgerH2O]

Spoiler: Mongolia

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Greetings from The Golden Hub of Austria. Our scouting party claims to have seen evidence of your people but we could not confirm their location. Nonetheless, our merchant council wishes to send a permanent ambassador to your lands and would welcome a trade envoy from your people as well.

The Golden Hub always seeks new trade partners and hopes that this contact will blossom into a long and prosperous relationship for our two peoples.

[Croverus]

Spoiler: Austria

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Greetings. We have scouts traveling far and wide to find every civilization in this world, so we may make contact with all peoples. We are in the process of acquiring several tradable goods and will let you know when we have extras that could be sent out. An embassy will be constructed for some ambassadors from your people. We expect one to be made for our own ambassadors to arrive at on your end.

Spoiler: Morocco

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We are soon planning to build up a large enough force to take one of the city states north of our newest city. We are on good terms with Florence but the other is too much of a hassle to maintain good relation so we will simply be taking it. Please do not be alarmed as we will disband our siege weapons and excess troops after the city state is captured and only maintain enough of a force to guard our lands and send as aid in any future war efforts, should the be required. We felt it important to inform you, our dearest friend, of our intentions so as not to worry you. If you feel our decision to be a bit rash, we are open to a dialogue about alternatives to handling the city state.

[RayGallade]

Spoiler: Mongolia

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This is acceptable to the Moroccan Institute of Trade. We wish you luck in corralling that troublesome city state.

[Illven]

Spoiler: RayGallade, Morocco

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We of the Chinese have a mutually beneficial trade request being sent to you.

One spare gold luxury, for one of your spare incense luxuries. Do you find this acceptable?

In addition, how are things with the Mongolia people? We hear they can we a warlike nation, are your borders peaceful?

Sincerely
Queen Wu Zetian of China.

[Zevox]

Fair warning, the turn I just submitted didn't go through on the first attempt, and in the past when that's happened it's caused problems, so we might have to revert.

[DodgerH2O]

Spoiler: Ethiopia

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The merchant circle of The Golden Hub believes that honesty is the best way to do business. After consultations with our navigators and shipbuilders we have realized your nearest port is too far away for our shallow trading vessels to reach. The researching and funding of a Harbor will be necessary and we have other financial priorities for our research at the moment.

As a token of thanks for your goodwill we will send a portion of our first trade route to your empire until such time as we can provide for a proper trade route.

OOC: Just found your coastal city and my trade route overview shows you're too far at the moment. Eyeballing it I think once I get a Harbor I can make it, so until then I'll send part of the GPT I make with the route in appreciation of your help in my capital's growth.

[Zevox]

Spoiler: Ethiopia

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The merchant circle of The Golden Hub believes that honesty is the best way to do business. After consultations with our navigators and shipbuilders we have realized your nearest port is too far away for our shallow trading vessels to reach. The researching and funding of a Harbor will be necessary and we have other financial priorities for our research at the moment.

As a token of thanks for your goodwill we will send a portion of our first trade route to your empire until such time as we can provide for a proper trade route.

OOC: Just found your coastal city and my trade route overview shows you're too far at the moment. Eyeballing it I think once I get a Harbor I can make it, so until then I'll send part of the GPT I make with the route in appreciation of your help in my capital's growth.

Spoiler: Austria (Dodger H20)

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Okay, I appreciate that. Though just to be sure, which coastal city are you referring to? I have two, one north and one southwest of my capital. I believe the northern one is closer to you, so if it's that, makes sense. If it was the southern one though, maybe the northern one is close enough for you?

BTW, I finally have a scout checking out the regions west of my lands. Given Illven's history in the other GMR game I joined (where he apparently killed another player rather early with crossbows, which China gets an even better version of), one thing I'm watching for is signs of him looking to make a military move on either of us. I haven't seen any yet, but I've only just found his lands, so there's plenty I've yet to see. I'll let you know if I see anything - especially since I think you may be the more likely target if he does, since he'd have to go through a city-state to get to me.

[RayGallade]

Spoiler: China

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We of the Moroccan Institute of Trade gladly accept your offer, though perhaps in your haste to deliver your message you mistook our truffles for incense. Still, we are pleased with this trade.

As for the matter of our neighbors, we are on wonderful terms with them. We have peaceably negotiated settling rights along our shared boarder and see only peace for the foreseeable future. Is there something that the Moroccan Intelligence Bureau ought to know about?

[Illven]

Spoiler: Morocco;RayGallade

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Yeah, that's probably what we meant.

As for the Mongolia issue, nothing in particular. Just a reminder that Keshisks are a bitch to fight.

[Illven]

So. After Ryuho's hypocriticalness in 12, I'm going to need to be convinced not to drop.