OOTS #1027 - The Discussion Thread

[Mad Humanist]

So can we please, please, please stop with the Banjo worship? Are you trying to incarnate him on Earth in 2016?

It is futile to ask a true-believer to stop believing politely - and to ask impolitely or worse is unthinkable. Just let the Banjo worshippers have their religion in peace.

[Gusion]

It is futile to ask a true-believer to stop believing politely - and to ask impolitely or worse is unthinkable. Just let the Banjo worshippers have their religion in peace.

I don't care what they believe. I do care they keep trying to "proselytize." And while they may have the right to do so, that invites people to tell them they're wrong. Although at this point I'd say at least half are just trolling.

[Mad Humanist]

I don't care what they believe. I do care they keep trying to "proselytize." And while they may have the right to do so, that invites people to tell them they're wrong. Although at this point I'd say at least half are just trolling.

It's all fine as long as the conversation is polite. However at some point Banjoism may become a real-world religion at which point discussing it will become much more problematic.

[Edhelras]

Fourth: I'm pretty sure the original post wasn't about the Godsmoot at all but rather filling durkon's place in the party.

Fifth: Aye, I was just kiddin', it was sarcastic after all...

But at the bottom of this lies a truism of DnD: Every party needs a healer. So who is gonna heal them now? Elan? Or will Roy finally follow-up on that celestial advice and multi-class as a cleric?
It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it.

Seriously: I think that after Durkola finally split from the OOTS, and Veldrina appears to have been left behind at the Godsmoot (which she is bound to, I guess, being a divine representative? Or is that binding only for the High Priests of the Northern gods?) - I think there must now be a rather short time limit on Durkola's future as a vamp. The party can go on for only so long without a professional healer.

Well, as long as they stay aboard the Mechane, they can make do with Julio's stock of potions. But they may need other kinds of healing and restoration too.
So - my prediction is that by departing from the OOTS, no longer being of use to them - and not ensuring to have someone to fill his slot - Durkola/HPoH actually condemned himself to destruction and to Durkon's ultimate restoration.

It would be only appropriate if oddly slightly more intelligent Elan was allowed to point this out to him.

And please pretty please - could Banjo be allowed to drive that stake in?

[Keltest]

Fifth: Aye, I was just kiddin', it was sarcastic after all...

But at the bottom of this lies a truism of DnD: Every party needs a healer. So who is gonna heal them now? Elan? Or will Roy finally follow-up on that celestial advice and multi-class as a cleric?
It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it.

Seriously: I think that after Durkola finally split from the OOTS, and Veldrina appears to have been left behind at the Godsmoot (which she is bound to, I guess, being a divine representative? Or is that binding only for the High Priests of the Northern gods?) - I think there must now be a rather short time limit on Durkola's future as a vamp. The party can go on for only so long without a professional healer.

Well, as long as they stay aboard the Mechane, they can make do with Julio's stock of potions. But they may need other kinds of healing and restoration too.
So - my prediction is that by departing from the OOTS, no longer being of use to them - and not ensuring to have someone to fill his slot - Durkola/HPoH actually condemned himself to destruction and to Durkon's ultimate restoration.

It would be only appropriate if oddly slightly more intelligent Elan was allowed to point this out to him.

And please pretty please - could Banjo be allowed to drive that stake in?

Given that Roy was pretty explicit about his intention to resurrect Durkon this entire time, im rather curious as to why you ever thought the Vampire's lifespan would not be sharply limited.

[AstralFire]

Guess Elan got promoted from back-up healer to straight up healer for the rest of this storyline...
Oh, and the Mechane does have a cleric on board I Believe.

Been calling that since the "Neutralize Poison" development, and no one believed me.

[Quild]

Given that Roy was pretty explicit about his intention to resurrect Durkon this entire time, im rather curious as to why you ever thought the Vampire's lifespan would not be sharply limited.

I'm certain that the vampire has not a lot of days to unlive. But the real matter here is that the Order will have some fights to handle between then. The lack of a real healer might be a problem to reach their goal of recovering their healer.

[Rift_Wolf]

It's all fine as long as the conversation is polite. However at some point Banjoism may become a real-world religion at which point discussing it will become much more problematic.

So... If we establish a real world Banjo cult, all mention of Banjo on the forums is scrubbed? This dire possibility will become known as 'the Decimation of the Archive' or 'Ten Thousand Wrongs to make One Right'.

Been calling that since the "Neutralize Poison" development, and no one believed me.

Restoration isn't a Bard spell. I still don't believe you :p

[8BitNinja]

Seriously guys, if you actually worship Banjo, then it's real world religion, if you don't, it annoying

either way, stop it

[Shining Wrath]

I guess I have to state what I thought was obvious: no one on this board, so far as I can tell, actually worships Banjo, nor are they trying to get anyone else to actually worship a puppet. It's simply the Internet, and people carrying on an argument ad nauseum (which, since I'm clarifying things, doesn't mean I'm actually nauseated).

I believe we have the nearest thing we're likely to get to Word of Giant on Banjo as a possible voter. Others have the right to disagree with me without my getting mad about it.

Plus, he's a puppet. If Banjo is divine, what then of the hand within the God? Manibus ex Deus! Clearly if Banjo deserves worship, Elan deserves far more.

And Rich Burlew, as discussed, uses Elan as his Twitter icon. Therefore ...

ZOUNDS ...

Rich Burlew is trying to get all of us to worship HIM, and all discussion on these boards of OotS or the Giant in any way is actually a discussion of RW religion, and therefore we all must be banned! Including the moderators! Even including Rich himself!

IT'S THE END OF DR. STRANGELOVE!

[BannedInSchool]

Seriously guys, if you actually worship Banjo, then it's real world religion, if you don't, it annoying

either way, stop it

Your hate only makes us stronger, but Banjo still loves you.

[JohanOfKitten]

But at the bottom of this lies a truism of DnD: Every party needs a healer. So who is gonna heal them now? Elan? Or will Roy finally follow-up on that celestial advice and multi-class as a cleric?
It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it.

It's sure that Roy will multiclass and become priest. After all he's been through and all he's seen in this Godsmoot, I'm pretty sure that he's fond of gods and believe that relying on them is the best thing for him and his buddies... Oh wait (seventh panel)

[Ave]

Now the special ability of their transport will show its value, it doesn't matter how long it takes for the dwarves to assemble because our heroes will arrive just in the nick of time no matter what!

They should probably go adventuring, solving side quests and gain some levels...

[bookguy]

Normally I don't think they can.....but followers are able. But since we've seen him use "evasion". I don't think Blackwing can qualify as a follower and familiar. Unless his penchant for stealing baubles has unknowingly given him a couple levels of rogue

Just a thought.

Familiars (such as Blackwing) automatically get Evasion and Improved Evasion.

[Quibblicious]

I liked how the existence of Banjo had a reminder at the start of this book with Dr. Banjo. Because, yknow, the forums have been known to forget about him (so I've been told...)

Who is this "Banjo" of whom you speak?

[Quibblicious]

What qualifies as a priest in this world? Does the deity worshiped have to be widely accepted?

Apparently not, since Hel doesn't have a lot to work with.

[PallentisLunam]

Apparently not, since Hel doesn't have a lot to work with.

Except all the intelligent northern undead? And apparently enough low level clerics to stock an endless number of dungeons for adventurers to clear out.

Besides she is accepted. She's just not widely venerated.

[littlebum2002]

It's all fine as long as the conversation is polite. However at some point Banjoism may become a real-world religion at which point discussing it will become much more problematic.

This is brilliant. If I make a real-world version of Banjoism then by the forum's own rules people would no longer be allowed to discuss it.

[PallentisLunam]

This is brilliant. If I make a real-world version of Banjoism then by the forum's own rules people would no longer be allowed to discuss it.

And you could apply for religious based tax exemptions!

[Ruck]

Seriously guys, if you actually worship Banjo, then it's real world religion, if you don't, it annoying

either way, stop it

I guess I have to state what I thought was obvious: no one on this board, so far as I can tell, actually worships Banjo, nor are they trying to get anyone else to actually worship a puppet. It's simply the Internet, and people carrying on an argument ad nauseum (which, since I'm clarifying things, doesn't mean I'm actually nauseated).

Seriously, what's going on here? And why does it bother some of you so much?

[Quibblicious]

Maybe it's latent kleptomania - you know, you have to resist the urge to lute them.

Hopefully he won't resort to violins.

[Rift_Wolf]

Hopefully he won't resort to violins.

String em all up I say!
I came for the discussion, but I stay for the puns :)

[Shining Wrath]

Hopefully he won't resort to violins.

That would be a symphony of a deeper, more serious problem.

String em all up I say!
I came for the discussion, but I stay for the puns :)

Things do tend to wind up that way.

[Hamste]

Seriously, what's going on here? And why does it bother some of you so much?

Some religions and people are extremely against idols like Banjo. I can't really go any further than that in explanation.

[Bulldog Psion]

I don't mean to trumpet my achievements, but on that note, I have to leave for the moment. I need to go drum up some business.

[Keltest]

Some religions and people are extremely against idols like Banjo. I can't really go any further than that in explanation.

Also, the joke has worn extremely thin to many of us.

[Hamste]

Also, the joke has worn extremely thin to many of us.

That as well could also be a reason for that exchange.

[GAAD]

I'm pretty sure one of the things on the Evil Overlord list is not paying too much for people to memorize and quote the Evil Overlord list - how's business?

Eh, can't complain. I've got a nice comfy long-term commission with SCAR and a few minor contracts with STUPID. A lot of my clients actually know what they're doing, and just need a couple pointers. Also, they usually need heroes killed. I have an 84% success rate in assassinating child and adolescent Chosen Ones. The other 16% didn't PAY for that particular service.

[8BitNinja]

Hopefully he won't resort to violins.

I never let kids go to the symphony, there's not just violins, there's sax too

[Jasdoif]

Plus, he's a puppet. If Banjo is divine, what then of the hand within the God? Manibus ex Deus! Clearly if Banjo deserves worship, Elan deserves far more.

...No, it'd be more of a Human Ton and Handy scenario.