Civ 5 GMR 16 Reject Earth Edition

[Illven]

So. I am currently only playing 3 GMR games.

This is unacceptable.

So I'm going to start GMR 16!

Who's interested.

And who has ideas for a theme!


Seems so far we are going with reject earth edition

Myself Netherlands
Silverraptor Polynesia
The Snark Ottomans
AI Iroqouis
Nerd-o-rama Venice
Shishnarfne Carthage
Datsmore Japan

[Silverraptor]

I'd like to express my interest. As for theme, I was thinking all nations can only orginate from one continent or we all start at a certain era. But whatever is decided is fine with me.

[Zevox]

Interested. Possibly as Arabia, since they were the second nation I was looking at playing in 15 but passed up.

As for a theme, eh, whatever. I've played little enough of the game that basically anything will be new by me.

[The_Snark]

Interested. We could do an Earth map? I don't know that we've done that before.

[Silverraptor]

So thinking about it, how's this for a theme. People are either randomly assigned or pick to bottom tier civilizations and then we duke it out? I'd like to see how everyone plays with a less then stellar civilization. What do you guys think?

[Illven]

So thinking about it, how's this for a theme. People are either randomly assigned or pick to bottom tier civilizations and then we duke it out? I'd like to see how everyone plays with a less then stellar civilization. What do you guys think?

But I wanna play as Korea, Poland, or Shoshone!!!

[Zevox]

So thinking about it, how's this for a theme. People are either randomly assigned or pick to bottom tier civilizations and then we duke it out? I'd like to see how everyone plays with a less then stellar civilization. What do you guys think?

Assuming I get informed which Civs qualify as bottom tier, I'm fine with that I suppose. Odds are I can find one that looks fun to me, I'd imagine.

[Silverraptor]

But I wanna play as Korea, Poland, or Shoshone!!!

I think you've dominated enough.

And why don't you list the crappy civs then.

[Illven]

I think you've dominated enough.

And why don't you list the crappy civs then.

Technically I haven't won a domination victory yet.

The 8 worst civ's in the game

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Carthage, Netherlands, France, Japan, Polynesia, Ottomons, Iroquois, Venice.

If we're doing this, I call Netherlands.

[Zevox]

Technically I haven't won a domination victory yet.

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Carthage, Netherlands, France, Japan, Polynesia, Ottomons, Iroquois, Venice.

If we're doing this, I call Netherlands.

Really? Huh, I'm a little surprised by some of the Civs on that list.

Anyway, if we go with that, I call France. Also, given several Civs on that list have navy-based benefits, we should definitely use a map type where that will actually matter.

[Ryuho Tsugu]

Anyway, if we go with that, I call France. Also, given several Civs on that list have navy-based benefits, we should definitely use a map type where that will actually matter.

If you're going with the bottom-tier civ idea, you should also go with a terrible map, like Tilted Axis or Tiny Islands.

[thirsting]

Possibly interested, but only if it doesn't start in another week or so (don't wait for me).

Sweden, to me, seems like it'd be rather bottom tiery? And real Earth map sounds like a good idea

[Mx.Silver]

Really? Huh, I'm a little surprised by some of the Civs on that list.

These lists are mainly drawn from high-end competitive multiplayer games listing what works for those. In most of the games on this forum the environment just isn't such that it's going to particularly matter, but that hasn't stopped a fairly vocal minority here from treating these lists as game-defining (see also: any of the 'If I roll Venice I'm taking my ball and going home" type statements that have cropped up in a few thread lately).

[Zevox]

These lists are mainly drawn from high-end competitive multiplayer games listing what works for those. In most of the games on this forum the environment just isn't such that it's going to particularly matter, but that hasn't stopped a fairly vocal minority here from treating these lists as game-defining (see also: any of the 'If I roll Venice I'm taking my ball and going home" type statements that have cropped up in a few thread lately).

Oh, I get that. I'm familiar enough with competitive gaming from my experience with fighting games and Hearthstone to know how that tends to work. I'm just new enough to Civ 5 that I've never really seen any kind of tier listing for it, and while I was able to guess that Venice and Polynesia would probably be on there, I wasn't sure about any of the rest, and there's a couple I certainly wouldn't have guessed on there. Most notably Japan, which I would've guessed was actually fairly good.

[Silverraptor]

Oh, I get that. I'm familiar enough with competitive gaming from my experience with fighting games and Hearthstone to know how that tends to work. I'm just new enough to Civ 5 that I've never really seen any kind of tier listing for it, and while I was able to guess that Venice and Polynesia would probably be on there, I wasn't sure about any of the rest, and there's a couple I certainly wouldn't have guessed on there. Most notably Japan, which I would've guessed was actually fairly good.

Yeah, I was surprised myself with Japan being on there as well.

[Illven]

Possibly interested, but only if it doesn't start in another week or so (don't wait for me).

Sweden, to me, seems like it'd be rather bottom tiery? And real Earth map sounds like a good idea

Sweden's a little higher tier. The ones I have up are worse then Sweden.

[Nerd-o-rama]

I am indifferent to theme but I would like to play.

Just as a heads up, I believe the Earth map automatically disables Start Bias, so bear that in mind.

Also bear in mind tier lists tend to be based on very specific playstyles - and most of the Civs on there are less "unusable" and more "have a really niche gimmick" like Carthage's free harbors or Japan's lack of damage penalties (which sound really powerful but mainly make a difference very early and against AIs that don't focus fire)

[Zevox]

I am indifferent to theme but I would like to play.

Just as a heads up, I believe the Earth map automatically disables Start Bias, so bear that in mind.

Hm, an Earth map with those eight nations...

Europe: France, Netherlands, Venice.
Africa: Carthage (but north Africa, so close enough to potentially come into conflict over territory with the European nations, particularly France).
Asia: Japan, Ottomans - but opposite sides of the continent.
Americas: Iroquois, Polynesia.

Yeah, while I haven't seen exactly what Civ 5's version of the map looks like or how big it is, I think the European nations would be at something of a disadvantage there, having to fight over their limited territory while the other nations have whole continents practically to themselves.

[Silverraptor]

Hm, an Earth map with those eight nations...

Europe: France, Netherlands, Venice.
Africa: Carthage (but north Africa, so close enough to potentially come into conflict over territory with the European nations, particularly France).
Asia: Japan, Ottomans - but opposite sides of the continent.
Americas: Iroquois, Polynesia.

Yeah, while I haven't seen exactly what Civ 5's version of the map looks like or how big it is, I think the European nations would be at something of a disadvantage there, having to fight over their limited territory while the other nations have whole continents practically to themselves.

No. What happens is the map is a replica of earth geographically, but resources and starting locations are still randomized. I once played on a huge earth map as Russia and started in South America.

[Nerd-o-rama]

I'm also pretty sure start location is RANDOM, i.e. Netherlands could start in central China, unless we're talking a modded map.

Apparently-underpowered-ninja'd.

[Zevox]

No. What happens is the map is a replica of earth geographically, but resources and starting locations are still randomized. I once played on a huge earth map as Russia and started in South America.

I'm also pretty sure start location is RANDOM, i.e. Netherlands could start in central China, unless we're talking a modded map.

Huh. Well, like I said, I haven't used it before, so I did not know that. I know I used Civ 4's Earth map a few times, and in that one your Civ's starting position was always historically accurate, so I assumed it would be the same here.

Okay then, if that's not the case, works for me.

[Nerd-o-rama]

I'll put in for the Japanese if we're doing the tier-obscure theme.

[Silverraptor]

I'd be interested in polynesa.

[Illven]

Okay, I put up a basic list in the first post.

I'm thinking the title if we go this theme is

Reject Earth edition. We flunked out of Druid school!

[The_Snark]

I'll take whoever's left over when everyone else has gone, I guess?

[Shishnarfne]

This is probably not a great idea for me (especially as I haven't played GMR before), but I think that this looks like fun. I'm kind of partial to Carthage personally. So, I guess I'll try to have Queen Dido get some usage out of her early game uniques.

[Zevox]

Illven, you seem to have missed it when making the first post, but I already said I'd call France if we're doing the "bottom 8 Civs" thing.

So that would leave the Ottomans, Iroqouis, and Venice to be divided between The Snark, Thirsting, and a final player if we get one.

[Illven]

Illven, you seem to have missed it when making the first post, but I already said I'd call France if we're doing the "bottom 8 Civs" thing.

So that would leave the Ottomans, Iroqouis, and Venice to be divided between The Snark, Thirsting, and a final player if we get one.

Fixed.

[The_Snark]

So that would leave the Ottomans, Iroqouis, and Venice...

How did I guess

[Nerd-o-rama]

If literally absolutely nobody wants Venice, I'll take it on the condition that I can RP it as Ankh-Morpork.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EAqCbOJc6RU

Enrico's even kind of a ringer for Vetinari...