Civ 5 GMR 16 Reject Earth Edition

[Silverraptor]

Fair warning Silverraptor. AI you tried to ask me to dow The snark.

What?! I go on a brief holiday and the guy I leave in command is trying to declare war?! Thank you for bringing this to my attention. He shall be stripped of command and jailed awaiting trial for treason.

[Silverraptor]

I'd like to inform you all that I will be forced from playing this game for an unforeseeable amount of time. My computer has a recently discovered defect that is still covered by Warranty and I'm sending it back for repairs. If you guys want to remove the timer until I get back to avoid any unplanned and unnecessary wars, that would be nice. Otherwise I'll just go into vacation mode.

[Illven]

Ottomans it was Marten in the ballroom, with the knife.

Should another spy from you be found without it being part of a trade negotiation, it will severely strain our diplomatic relations.

Spoiler: Datsmore;Japan

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We have sent a trade for accepting embassies. Should you accept, we intend to have you ask for open borders next, or have us ask for open borders on our next turn.

To the glory of William of Orange.

[Nerd-o-rama]

I'd like to inform you all that I will be forced from playing this game for an unforeseeable amount of time. My computer has a recently discovered defect that is still covered by Warranty and I'm sending it back for repairs. If you guys want to remove the timer until I get back to avoid any unplanned and unnecessary wars, that would be nice. Otherwise I'll just go into vacation mode.

Hm, I don't know if I want to make this decision by fiat. Anyone else have a thought between "remove turn timer" and "ask silverraptor to vacation and maybe have his AI backstab us?"

[Illven]

Hm, I don't know if I want to make this decision by fiat. Anyone else have a thought between "remove turn timer" and "ask silverraptor to vacation and maybe have his AI backstab us?"

I'd actually lean towards AI. Since we don't know how long he'll be.

[Silverraptor]

I'd actually lean towards AI. Since we don't know how long he'll be.

Most likely a week or two. Any longer then that and they start getting angry phone calls from me.

[The_Snark]

As it happens I'm going to be away this weekend, so we could turn the timer off that long, at least? I wouldn't normally bother to ask for such a short period, but if we've got two players absent out of six it seems more worthwhile.

[Nerd-o-rama]

I'll disable the timer from now through Monday, at least. That short a period, I don't mind.

[Illven]

Spoiler: The sunday spectator update

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Utrecht guards report no problems with operation Frigate about France.



One of the minor nations of the world requests that King William of Orange shows the strength of their culture.



As our swordsmen train in anti ranged combat.




After some debate, we decide to vote for a world's fair to be created.






As our army battle the barbarians to protect our grand nation.



Our scouts continue scouting the other land.




Our workbands continue to improve the land around our empire.



Rotterdam's guards report no problems.



Neither does the palace guard.




Our great people wait for their time to be called.



Our glorious tech tree.



Amsterdam works on a coliseum. All to praise William of Orange.



Rotterdam is soon to finish a war ship.



As is Urtecht.



here we see the glory of secularism given to all our people.



We are told we are best in approval.



France tourism. Not that'll matter for long.












The Dutch empire's information on our foes.

[Nerd-o-rama]

Most likely a week or two. Any longer then that and they start getting angry phone calls from me.

Okay, I "forgot" to turn the turn timer back on for you last week, and I noticed you got a turn in somewhere. How's your computer situation now?

[Silverraptor]

Okay, I "forgot" to turn the turn timer back on for you last week, and I noticed you got a turn in somewhere. How's your computer situation now?

I got it back and everything is reinstalled. Re-instigate the turn timer.

[Nerd-o-rama]

Turn timer started up again, also please vote for Sciences Funding, we all like fast finish times, right?

[Illven]

The french people have had forces on our borders for far too long. The dutch people feel that since Napoleon can't be reasoned with words, he must be reasoned by steel.

[Nerd-o-rama]

We welcome all in Ankh-Morpork, including the unliving. However, robotic French artillerymen are an exception. If you have need of any assistance, we can have a small expeditionary force available in that theater of the world at a very reasonable price.

[Illven]

We believe the Dutch forces in the area should we all that we need.

Spoiler: Sunday spectator update

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The fusion of tree and machine thanks us for our efforts.



Amsterdam continues it's rapid number of growths.





As the machine preacher attempts to starve our city into submission. They are swiftly dealt with.



Bogota tells us they have waited too long.



Hanoi asks us kindly to vacate the area.










The southern land force reports no problems.






The northern forces chase away a french squad of warriors.




Our work forces start to move into french lands.




Our great scientists wait to be called.










The sea force however starts the siege of Old Orleans.



The sea scouts report no conflict.



Nor do the land scouts.




The siege of Old Orleans is successful.



We decide to keep the city, surprised at his wealth of buildings.





So we start to remove French forces from the area.



We start to trade with Japan.



Here we see William of Orange's choices for technology.



The capital continues to work on the glorious world's fair.



Rotterdam contributes to the navy.



As does Utrecht.



Here we see no government changes from last time.



The world congress continues.



The scholars say we are worst in nothing, best in being most well loved.




Japan is not very sure of their culture.







Our government's information on our foes.

[Nerd-o-rama]

Spoiler: Japan

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I received a deal offer that I believe came from your robo-shogun. I went ahead and declined it but let me know if that was legitimate after all and I'll consider it.

[Illven]

Spoiler: Sunday spectator war update

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The french people wish to make peace with the Orange machine of war. We laugh them out of court.



The golden age of the Dutch people is over. But the war rages on.



Orleans has an explosion in mixed birth citizens. These citizens will not be granted full rights of the Dutch. But their children may claim them.



As the Venicians make an entire tower out of china.



Japan no longer promises Bogota protection.



Belgrade tells us the Polynesian culture is better then one who's artist paint only in red.



As does Budapest.



Antwerp requests Sikhism.




One frigate blasts the savages as it waits for it's allies.









Our land army does not do much.



But some take care of savages.



As our work bands continue to move into once-French lands.










The rest of our navy starts catching up.



Utrecht guards report no problems.



Nor does Rotterdam's.



The palace guards report all is well.





As our great scientist wait to be called.



Here we see what glorious knowledge the Dutch people have learned.



As well as maps of the capital.



Rotterdam continues on a bank.



As Utrecht continues on a workshop, to improve the speed in which ships can be built.



And here we see the captured city of Orleans.



As we see, our universities now have studies on the sciences of mankind.



As our diplomats continue to debate in the halls of the world congress.



The scholars say we are the largest empire, the happiest, and the brightest.




Here we see what effect our great sites have on other citizens.




And Venice tourism's much greater effect.












Our information on our nations foes.

[Nerd-o-rama]

Spoiler: Silverraptor;Polynesia

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I've asked permission for one of our Omnian holy men to pass through your lands on his way to one of our allied city-states. He won't be stopping by any of your cities unless you'd like to invite him.

On my honor, I am not a proselytizing man.

[Silverraptor]

Spoiler: Silverraptor;Polynesia

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I've asked permission for one of our Omnian holy men to pass through your lands on his way to one of our allied city-states. He won't be stopping by any of your cities unless you'd like to invite him.

On my honor, I am not a proselytizing man.

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Go ahead. The Polynesian people believe in freedom of religion.

[Shishnarfne]

Spoiler: Silverraptor: Polynesia

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One of my scouting knight units reports a large number of Iroquois troops on the march near Raiatea. Can't tell if they're headed your way or south. They're mostly Mohawk Warriors (4-5 units, I think I saw), but I could swear I saw some unusual weaponry, that my scholars say are called "muskets." Let me know what I can provide, Her Majesty is always pleased to support fellow Buddhist nations. (If you'd like, I could send another Missionary your way. )

I don't see Hiawatha being a big problem in the long run, but I'm worried about falling behind...

Hmm, did anyone happen to notice who hosted the World's Fair? I think that I missed it.

Last chance for anyone who wants a Buddhist missionary to drop by your doorstep to speak up... we expect Faith purchases to be re-directed once we gain the ability to construct Public Schools.

[Illven]

Spoiler: Carthage;Shishnarfne

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Are you wondering where your next big burst of happiness is going to come from? Worried about possible rebels in your lands? Well for 7 GPT, dyes can be yours tomorrow. (Just send us the request, please)

In addition, would you be willing to sign a research agreement with the Dutch empire?

~King William of Orange

Spoiler: Nerd-o-rama;Venice

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Are you wondering where your next big burst of happiness is going to come from? Worried about possible rebels in your lands? Well for 7 GPT, spices can be yours tomorrow. (Just send us the request, please)

~King William of Orange

Spoiler: Datsmore;Japan

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We noticed that you are really low on happiness, we sent you a trade offer. 14 GPT, for Ivory and Silk.

In addition, would you be willing to sign a research agreement with the Dutch empire?

~King William of Orange

[Illven]

Spoiler: Carthage;Shishnarfne

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Our previous offer of dyes for 7 GPT stands.

Also would it be possible for you to find in your hearts to help turn leadership of the world congress into Dutch hands?

Spoiler: Polynesia;Silverraptor

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With the Carthage people entering the industrial era, it is yet again time to consider where to hold the world congresses of the future.

We would like you to consider helping us place them in Dutch lands. Is this agreeable?

[Illven]

Nerdorama you're holding up the world congress.

[Nerd-o-rama]

Yeah I definitely picked an inopportune moment for my motivation to die completely.

Spoiler: Shishnarfne;Carthage

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Seeing as you're the kingmaker as far as WC Host goes right now, I'd like to ask you to spare a majority of your votes my way. While I can offer you friendship and trade deals galore - and I will, make me an offer - my main point here is pragmatic. Illven's clearly going for Diplomatic Victory, and I gave up on that once he beat me to Forbidden Palace. He needs the Host seat to set himself up to win, so I suggest keeping it out of his hands.

Spoiler: Datsmore;Japan and The Snark;Ottomans

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As I was saying to Carthage, we're reaching the point of the game where the Netherlands is going to set up for Diplomatic Victory. That's not my chosen path, since he beat me to FP and then I didn't bother with Patronage at all, so if we keep Venice/A-M as Host, it will pretty well keep him out of the running for that.

[Shishnarfne]

Yeah I definitely picked an inopportune moment for my motivation to die completely.

Spoiler: Shishnarfne;Carthage

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Seeing as you're the kingmaker as far as WC Host goes right now, I'd like to ask you to spare a majority of your votes my way. While I can offer you friendship and trade deals galore - and I will, make me an offer - my main point here is pragmatic. Illven's clearly going for Diplomatic Victory, and I gave up on that once he beat me to Forbidden Palace. He needs the Host seat to set himself up to win, so I suggest keeping it out of his hands.

Spoiler: nerdorama;venice

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I would've liked this update last turn, before I threw my votes at the Ottoman Empire. (If he voted for himself, then that would put him and the Netherlands in a tie... letting you keep it.)
I'd argue that Illven is probably our biggest threat. I think that he's probably gearing to go Autocracy (soon!). Am I correct in my assumption that you plan to go Freedom? It looks like I'll be pushing the third power block of Order, then.

I certainly want to keep the balance of power from swinging too far towards the Dutch. Have you a strong preference on the Cultural Heritage (+culture from Wonders)? I think that the Iroquois are actually best posted to prosper there... and I'm already worried about them.

Spoiler: silverraptor;Polynesia

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It looks like the Iroquois army is headed south, not east. I think that this is good news for you, but I'm having to detour around Ife, so I don't have great vision.
Would you be interested in a mutual defense treaty? Basically a "free" entry into taking Hiawatha's lands if/when he declares war on one of us.

[Silverraptor]

Spoiler: Carthage

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Of course! Though the Polynesian people have little to fear from the Iroquois because of our broad military, we would be happy to have our armed forced to be united. Together, we would be all the stronger.

[Illven]

We are pleased to announce that the world congress has been moved to Amsterdam.

Spoiler: Sunday spectator update

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Venice tries stealing our city state ally. Again. They also have a deal for us, so we'll see if it's a signal to let them have it, and if so if it's worth it.



It's just open borders with a slight donation for the privilege....



We take the city state back into the Dutch fold.



The Polynesians accept our trade.



The voting tells me, we were right to plot.



As the citizens of Orleans desire luminous gold.



The southern fleet waits for orders.




As our workbands also wait for orders.



As Utrecht guards report no problems.



Our missionaries wait for more orders.



The Northern fleet has orders. Land in-between the continents, it must be explored.



As Rotterdam's defense force reports no problems.





Our great scientists wait to be called.



As the palace guard reports no problems.



As our scouts explore the eastern continent.




Here we see the wonders of Dutch science.



Maps of the capital.



Maps of Rotterdam to finish it's public school soon.



Utrecht on it's windmill.



Orleans on it's work shop.



Paris working to connect the Americas!



And maps of the puppet Lyon.



Here we see King William of Orange attempting to promote free thought to boost the empire.



As the now first Amsterdam conference rages on.



The scholars say we are best in land, best in approval.




As our countryside starts to become an appealing destination site for tourist.









And our info on our nation's rivals.

[The_Snark]

Spoiler: Datsmore;Japan and The Snark;Ottomans

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As I was saying to Carthage, we're reaching the point of the game where the Netherlands is going to set up for Diplomatic Victory. That's not my chosen path, since he beat me to FP and then I didn't bother with Patronage at all, so if we keep Venice/A-M as Host, it will pretty well keep him out of the running for that.

Spoiler: Venice

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Fair point, mate. Wish you'd made it a mite earlier, we'd already sent off the blokes with the ballots. Next time you got our vote for host, though!

[Nerd-o-rama]

Spoiler: Japan, Carthage, Ottomans

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Apparently I'm really unclear with turn order in regards to voting, but oh well. My fault for not paying attention.

The Netherlands have their military built up from dealing with France, including their really nasty UU Privateers. It might behoove those of us who share sea borders with them to keep an eye out. I'm expecting an opportunistic strike on my Vatican City puppet soon, and if he's ahead of everyone in naval tech it's going to be a pretty solid gg if he decides to go naval conquest.

Main thing I'm suggesting right now is the possibility of Defensive Pacts, especially for me, Japan, and Ottomans since we've got the eastern half of the Pacific Rim split between us. As far as I'm concerned, Carthage is more than welcome also.

[Shishnarfne]

Spoiler: Venice (Ankh-Morporkh); Nerd-o-rama

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I do not feel comfortable entering into a defensive pact while my own navy is seriously underprepared. I hope that, once I am able to catch up on a few key techs (so that I can actually build frigates and can upgrade all the Berserkers I've so generously been gifted), I will be able to potentially provide a meaningful naval presence. I certainly plan to let you know if I notice something amiss regarding the Dutch fleet.

I've offered Polynesia a Defensive Pact for purposes of "containing" Hiawatha. I'm afraid that I promised to do so before becoming aware of their impending Declaration of Friendship with the Netherlands (presumably a quid pro quo for tossing the World Congress their way).

I'll be finishing Oxford UniversityThe Grand School of Carthiginian Research in a few turns. My scholars say that they should have figured out a "great new source of energy" by harnessing lightning before then. As you are likely aware, (assuming that you, like myself, are monitoring the Dutch capital), they appear to be *just* ahead of me in this regard. If they wish to pursue Diplomatic supremacy, Autocracy would seem like a natural choice. Given your development, I presume that you intend to go Freedom. The premises of Communism appear to offer more for our cities than Capitalism seems to offer your grand capital. I am certainly willing to work the historical agenda of these separate powers overcoming their differences to combat Autocracy. Would you be willing to consider a joint research effort to assist in bringing my forces to technological parity with those of the Netherlands?

What are your thoughts on the proposed World Congress resolutions? I think that the two of us still have enough votes to make it difficult for the Dutch to pass legislation without assistance.