Hearthstone Arena 4: Practise Makes Perfect

[heronbpv]

@Draft:
Enough votes to release the Kraken, hooray for freedom!
Also, insta-picked fiery-win.

Class: Class: Paladin/Mage/Warrior

Spoiler: Picks

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01. Grim Patron/Revenge/Arcane Golem
02. Bolster/Thrallmar Farseer/Murloc Tinyfin
03. Ironfur Grizzly/Obsidian Destroyer/Fen Creeper
04. Murloc Tinyfin/Flesheating Ghoul/Burly Rockjaw Trogg
05. Cleave/Tinkertown Technician/Anubisath Sentinel
06. Hungry Dragon/Obisidian Destroyer #2/Ice Rager
07. Inner Rage/Bloodsail Raider/Death's Bite
08. Novice Engineer/Rampage/Mukla's Champion
09. Death's Bite #2/Cogmaster/Silver Hand Knight
10. Screwjank Clunker/Shield Maiden/Commanding Shout
11. North Sea Kraken/fen Creeper/Earthen Ring Farseer
12. Fiery War Axe/Evil Heckler/Youthful Brewmaster

Spoiler: Mana curve

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Current: Cleave #2/Dire Wolf Alpha/Flesheating Ghoul

More clear, or wolf?

[Lethologica]

Just keep clearin'

[heronbpv]

@Draft:
Got cleave #2. And a Frothing Berserker. And a 2-drop brewmaster, since this will be my first 2-drop in this draft...

Class: Class: Paladin/Mage/Warrior

Spoiler: Picks

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01. Grim Patron/Revenge/Arcane Golem
02. Bolster/Thrallmar Farseer/Murloc Tinyfin
03. Ironfur Grizzly/Obsidian Destroyer/Fen Creeper
04. Murloc Tinyfin/Flesheating Ghoul/Burly Rockjaw Trogg
05. Cleave/Tinkertown Technician/Anubisath Sentinel
06. Hungry Dragon/Obisidian Destroyer #2/Ice Rager
07. Inner Rage/Bloodsail Raider/Death's Bite
08. Novice Engineer/Rampage/Mukla's Champion
09. Death's Bite #2/Cogmaster/Silver Hand Knight
10. Screwjank Clunker/Shield Maiden/Commanding Shout
11. North Sea Kraken/fen Creeper/Earthen Ring Farseer
12. Fiery War Axe/Evil Heckler/Youthful Brewmaster
13. Cleave #2/Dire Wolf Alpha/Flesheating Ghoul
14. Screwjank Clunker/Frothing Berserker/Jeeves
15. Leper Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Cleave #3

Spoiler: Mana curve

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Current: Anubisath Sentinel/Stormwind Champion/Spectral Knight

Great, just what I needed: moar lategame...

[Lethologica]

Well, it'd be fun to put Stormwind down alongside Obsidian Destroyer. That said, I think Spectral Knight is the clear pick at this point in the draft.

[Anarion]

I think you made a mistake picking hungry dragon over the second obsidian destroyer earlier. I'd have opposed that one (and I'd suggest waiting on 2-3 replies before picking, otherwise you're getting less wisdom of the crowd and more wisdom of that one guy that happens to be responding quickly to your draft).

At any rate, I agree with spectral knight now, you don't have enough cheap cards to make stormwind champion good.

[Hamste]

Seal Of champions picked.

Klvadir Raider/Ironfur Grizzly/Archmage

Probably Ironfur just because we need more threes.

Class: Druid/Mage/Paladin

Spoiler: Deck so far

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1. Aldor Peacekeeper/Secret Keeper/Deathlord
2.Faerie Dragon/stormwind knight/young dragonhawk
3. River Crocolisk/Noble Sacrifice/Archmage
4.Ogre Magi/Frigid Snobold/Murloc Tide Hunter
5. Sacred Trial/Humility/Worgen Infiltrator
6. Murloc Raider/Chillwind Yeti/Shield Bearer
7. Unstable Ghoul/Archmage/Spiteful Smith
8. Silverback Patriarch/Antique Heal Bot/Evil Heckler
9.Kobold Geomancer/Mechwarper/Salty Dog
10. Nerubian Egg/Anyfin can happen/Angry chicken
11. Blackwing Corruptor/Stormwind Champion/Acolyte of pain
12. Frostwolf Grunt/Sacred Trial/Seal of Champions
13. Truesilver Champion/Gorilla Bot A-3/Evil Heckler
14. Shielded Mini-bot/Maiden of the Lake/True Silver Champion
15. Gnomish Inventor/Iron Beak Owl/Nightblade
16. Dragonkin Sorcerer/Chillwind Yeti/Gorilla Bot A-3
17. Competitive Spirit/Ancient Mage/Light's Champion
18. Cult Master/ Gorilla Bot A-3/Blessing of might
19. Consecration/Oasis Snapjaw/Light's Justice
20. Garrison Commander/Junkbot/Bloodknight
21. Magma Rager/Evil Heckler/Worgen Infiltrator
22. Wisp/Frostwolf Warlord/Guardian of Kings
23. Fossilized Devilsaur/Piloted Shredder/Refreshment Vendor
24. Eye for an eye/Gorubashi Berserker/Dancing Swords
25. Razorfen hunter/Blessing of Might/Cog Master
26. Stormwind Knight/Lord of the Arena/Seal of champions
27. Klvadir Raider/Ironfur Grizzly/Archmage

Soft Removal: 1
Spell power: 1
Weapon Synergy: 1
Taunt: 1
Temporary Buffs: 1
Buff:2
Silence:1
AoE:1
Healing:1

Types:
Mech:2
Dragon:1
Beast:3 (1 coming from a summon)

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[Anarion]

I'd consider raider. It's a win condition in itself and the grizzly is a sub-par 3 drop.

[heronbpv]

I think you made a mistake picking hungry dragon over the second obsidian destroyer earlier. I'd have opposed that one (and I'd suggest waiting on 2-3 replies before picking, otherwise you're getting less wisdom of the crowd and more wisdom of that one guy that happens to be responding quickly to your draft).

At any rate, I agree with spectral knight now, you don't have enough cheap cards to make stormwind champion good.

While I do wait a bunch before I make my picks (most of the time ), and I agree with you on waiting to listen to the crowd's wisdom, the problem is that sometimes it may take too long. And, last time I drafted, I did this and it took almost a month to conclude... so there has to be a compromise!

So, if I pick without listening to more than a few posters, by all means, still state your opinions (like you just did, thank you!), as I believe the real reason we draft together is just so we can learn from each others experiences. :D

Also, Kvaldir Raider because you have no 6-but-more-like-an-eight-drop. And I'll get the Knight when I get back home.

[Anarion]

While I do wait a bunch before I make my picks (most of the time ), and I agree with you on waiting to listen to the crowd's wisdom, the problem is that sometimes it may take too long. And, last time I drafted, I did this and it took almost a month to conclude... so there has to be a compromise!

So, if I pick without listening to more than a few posters, by all means, still state your opinions (like you just did, thank you!), as I believe the real reason we draft together is just so we can learn from each others experiences. :D

Yeah that's fair. If you're confident in certain picks, you should go ahead and we do take a long time. But glad you appreciate the thoughts.

Also, Kvaldir Raider because you have no 6-but-more-like-an-eight-drop. And I'll get the Knight when I get back home.

It's a 5 that's actually a 7. Which makes it much better than a 6.

[heronbpv]

@Draft:
And of course, I say "when I get back home", but then I sleep and postpone it until now...
One for the king... lich!

Class: Class: Paladin/Mage/Warrior

Spoiler: Picks

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01. Grim Patron/Revenge/Arcane Golem
02. Bolster/Thrallmar Farseer/Murloc Tinyfin
03. Ironfur Grizzly/Obsidian Destroyer/Fen Creeper
04. Murloc Tinyfin/Flesheating Ghoul/Burly Rockjaw Trogg
05. Cleave/Tinkertown Technician/Anubisath Sentinel
06. Hungry Dragon/Obisidian Destroyer #2/Ice Rager
07. Inner Rage/Bloodsail Raider/Death's Bite
08. Novice Engineer/Rampage/Mukla's Champion
09. Death's Bite #2/Cogmaster/Silver Hand Knight
10. Screwjank Clunker/Shield Maiden/Commanding Shout
11. North Sea Kraken/fen Creeper/Earthen Ring Farseer
12. Fiery War Axe/Evil Heckler/Youthful Brewmaster
13. Cleave #2/Dire Wolf Alpha/Flesheating Ghoul
14. Screwjank Clunker/Frothing Berserker/Jeeves
15. Leper Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Cleave #3
16. Anubisath Sentinel/Stormwind Champion/Spectral Knight

Spoiler: Mana curve

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Current: Southsea Deckhand/Hungry Dragon #2/Jeweled Scarab

Hmmm, some ok early drops, or another Hungry Dragon?

[thirsting]

Jeweled Scarab! Customize your deck on the run.

[neriractor]

jeweled scarab is pretty great.

take the one drop.

[Lethologica]

I don't like either card all that much, but I like Hungry Dragon slightly better than Scarab.

There are only two cards in this pack.

Hamste, I'll be your Grizzly advocate. Your early game is garbage right now, with only 3 on-curve 2-drops and likely no targets for on-curve Seals a good portion of the time. At least Grizzly will force a trade with any 2-drop and most 3-drops, helping to neutralize the board for your strong mid-game.

[Anarion]

I say southsea deckhand. There's already 3 weapons in the deck. It's a really strong card when it has charge.

Hamste, I'll be your Grizzly advocate. Your early game is garbage right now, with only 3 on-curve 2-drops and likely no targets for on-curve Seals a good portion of the time. At least Grizzly will force a trade with any 2-drop and most 3-drops, helping to neutralize the board for your strong mid-game.

That's not how grizzly works though. They play a 2-drop. You play a 3-drop grizzly, they trade and drop a 3 or 4 and you're behind on the board facing an even larger threat. That sort of opening is what losses are made of.

Grizzly is specifically good against 2/3s in classes that don't have a poke hero power because it can trade for 1.5 or 2 cards. Even then, it's not spectacular.

[Lethologica]

That's not how grizzly works though. They play a 2-drop. You play a 3-drop grizzly, they trade and drop a 3 or 4 and you're behind on the board facing an even larger threat. That sort of opening is what losses are made of.

Grizzly is specifically good against 2/3s in classes that don't have a poke hero power because it can trade for 1.5 or 2 cards. Even then, it's not spectacular.

Yeah, and given how this draft has gone so far, the alternative is them having a 2-drop and a 3/4-drop while you have nothing.

[heronbpv]

@Draft:
Now that I think about it, I kind of like the idea of using deckhand with a weapon, as a sort of removal effect (like a Bluegill Warrior), so it has my vote.
Two for the deckhand, two for the scarab and one for the dragon. Need at least one more vote!

@Edit:
Aaaaaand timeout!
After a little more consideration, I choose the 2-drop that gives me a 3-drop, since I think I'm lacking in both. So, scarab it is!

Class: Class: Paladin/Mage/Warrior

Spoiler: Picks

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01. Grim Patron/Revenge/Arcane Golem
02. Bolster/Thrallmar Farseer/Murloc Tinyfin
03. Ironfur Grizzly/Obsidian Destroyer/Fen Creeper
04. Murloc Tinyfin/Flesheating Ghoul/Burly Rockjaw Trogg
05. Cleave/Tinkertown Technician/Anubisath Sentinel
06. Hungry Dragon/Obisidian Destroyer #2/Ice Rager
07. Inner Rage/Bloodsail Raider/Death's Bite
08. Novice Engineer/Rampage/Mukla's Champion
09. Death's Bite #2/Cogmaster/Silver Hand Knight
10. Screwjank Clunker/Shield Maiden/Commanding Shout
11. North Sea Kraken/fen Creeper/Earthen Ring Farseer
12. Fiery War Axe/Evil Heckler/Youthful Brewmaster
13. Cleave #2/Dire Wolf Alpha/Flesheating Ghoul
14. Screwjank Clunker/Frothing Berserker/Jeeves
15. Leper Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Cleave #3
16. Anubisath Sentinel/Stormwind Champion/Spectral Knight
17. Southsea Deckhand/Hungry Dragon #2/Jeweled Scarab

Spoiler: Mana curve

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Current: 18. Leper Gnome/Bloodfen Raptor/Gurubashi Berserker

Now wondering if having a Gurubashi Berserker with my 2 Death's Bites and Revenge should be considered over more early game.

[Gandariel]

I think you made a mistake picking hungry dragon over the second obsidian destroyer earlier.

yeah, I would have taken the Obsidian as well.

Dragon is average, Obsidian is very strong.
Yes it's a 7-drop and it's early in the draft, but who cares. I'd take four Ancients of War in the first 4 picks if I was given the chance.

[neriractor]

pick leper gnome, I have learned to never finish a draft without at least a few one drops, and leper gnome is a great start.

[Hamste]

I waited as long as I could. As much as I don't like it picked raider.

Bloodsail Raider/Seal of Light/Ironfur Grizzly

Definitely Bloodsail here.

Class: Druid/Mage/Paladin

Spoiler: Deck so far

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1. Aldor Peacekeeper/Secret Keeper/Deathlord
2.Faerie Dragon/stormwind knight/young dragonhawk
3. River Crocolisk/Noble Sacrifice/Archmage
4.Ogre Magi/Frigid Snobold/Murloc Tide Hunter
5. Sacred Trial/Humility/Worgen Infiltrator
6. Murloc Raider/Chillwind Yeti/Shield Bearer
7. Unstable Ghoul/Archmage/Spiteful Smith
8. Silverback Patriarch/Antique Heal Bot/Evil Heckler
9.Kobold Geomancer/Mechwarper/Salty Dog
10. Nerubian Egg/Anyfin can happen/Angry chicken
11. Blackwing Corruptor/Stormwind Champion/Acolyte of pain
12. Frostwolf Grunt/Sacred Trial/Seal of Champions
13. Truesilver Champion/Gorilla Bot A-3/Evil Heckler
14. Shielded Mini-bot/Maiden of the Lake/True Silver Champion
15. Gnomish Inventor/Iron Beak Owl/Nightblade
16. Dragonkin Sorcerer/Chillwind Yeti/Gorilla Bot A-3
17. Competitive Spirit/Ancient Mage/Light's Champion
18. Cult Master/ Gorilla Bot A-3/Blessing of might
19. Consecration/Oasis Snapjaw/Light's Justice
20. Garrison Commander/Junkbot/Bloodknight
21. Magma Rager/Evil Heckler/Worgen Infiltrator
22. Wisp/Frostwolf Warlord/Guardian of Kings
23. Fossilized Devilsaur/Piloted Shredder/Refreshment Vendor
24. Eye for an eye/Gorubashi Berserker/Dancing Swords
25. Razorfen hunter/Blessing of Might/Cog Master
26. Stormwind Knight/Lord of the Arena/Seal of champions
27. Klvadir Raider/Ironfur Grizzly/Archmage
28. Bloodsail Raider/Seal of Light/Ironfur Grizzly

Soft Removal: 1
Spell power: 1
Weapon Synergy: 1
Taunt: 1
Temporary Buffs: 1
Buff:2
Silence:1
AoE:1
Healing:1

Types:
Mech:2
Dragon:1
Beast:3 (1 coming from a summon)

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[Lethologica]

Raptor. 3/2 for 2 usually better than 2/1 for 1.

Raider. 2/3 or 6/3 for 2? Either way, better than the other cards in the pack.

I waited as long as I could. As much as I don't like it picked raider.

Well, there are always alternatives.

[heronbpv]

@Hamste:
Another vote for Bloodsail. It's even better if you have one of your truesilvers in hand.

@Draft:
1 for gnome, 1 for raptor. Comments on comboing? More votes?

[Hamste]

I vote raptor. Gnome is so bad against ping.

[Mando Knight]

Gnome dies in less than a week, and a lategame-trending Warrior has no use for it anyway. Raptor.

[neriractor]

Definitely Bloodsail here.

agreed, a 2/3 or possibly 6/3 is pretty good.

[heronbpv]

@Draft:
Raptor, raptor raptor. So it makes three votes for the dinossaur in red.

Class: Class: Paladin/Mage/Warrior

Spoiler: Picks

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01. Grim Patron/Revenge/Arcane Golem
02. Bolster/Thrallmar Farseer/Murloc Tinyfin
03. Ironfur Grizzly/Obsidian Destroyer/Fen Creeper
04. Murloc Tinyfin/Flesheating Ghoul/Burly Rockjaw Trogg
05. Cleave/Tinkertown Technician/Anubisath Sentinel
06. Hungry Dragon/Obisidian Destroyer #2/Ice Rager
07. Inner Rage/Bloodsail Raider/Death's Bite
08. Novice Engineer/Rampage/Mukla's Champion
09. Death's Bite #2/Cogmaster/Silver Hand Knight
10. Screwjank Clunker/Shield Maiden/Commanding Shout
11. North Sea Kraken/fen Creeper/Earthen Ring Farseer
12. Fiery War Axe/Evil Heckler/Youthful Brewmaster
13. Cleave #2/Dire Wolf Alpha/Flesheating Ghoul
14. Screwjank Clunker/Frothing Berserker/Jeeves
15. Leper Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Cleave #3
16. Anubisath Sentinel/Stormwind Champion/Spectral Knight
17. Southsea Deckhand/Hungry Dragon #2/Jeweled Scarab
18. Leper Gnome/Bloodfen Raptor/Gurubashi Berserker

Spoiler: Mana curve

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Current: Flame Juggler/Pit Fighter/Ogre Brute

I'm also lacking 3-drops, but all of these are fine, so which one?

[thirsting]

Ogre Brute. It's downside can occassionally be a huge upside.

[neriractor]

Ogre brute.

[heronbpv]

@Draft:
Me smash! Ops...

Class: Class: Paladin/Mage/Warrior

Spoiler: Picks

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01. Grim Patron/Revenge/Arcane Golem
02. Bolster/Thrallmar Farseer/Murloc Tinyfin
03. Ironfur Grizzly/Obsidian Destroyer/Fen Creeper
04. Murloc Tinyfin/Flesheating Ghoul/Burly Rockjaw Trogg
05. Cleave/Tinkertown Technician/Anubisath Sentinel
06. Hungry Dragon/Obisidian Destroyer #2/Ice Rager
07. Inner Rage/Bloodsail Raider/Death's Bite
08. Novice Engineer/Rampage/Mukla's Champion
09. Death's Bite #2/Cogmaster/Silver Hand Knight
10. Screwjank Clunker/Shield Maiden/Commanding Shout
11. North Sea Kraken/fen Creeper/Earthen Ring Farseer
12. Fiery War Axe/Evil Heckler/Youthful Brewmaster
13. Cleave #2/Dire Wolf Alpha/Flesheating Ghoul
14. Screwjank Clunker/Frothing Berserker/Jeeves
15. Leper Gnome/Youthful Brewmaster/Cleave #3
16. Anubisath Sentinel/Stormwind Champion/Spectral Knight
17. Southsea Deckhand/Hungry Dragon #2/Jeweled Scarab
18. Leper Gnome/Bloodfen Raptor/Gurubashi Berserker
19. Flame Juggler/Pit Fighter/Ogre Brute

Spoiler: Mana curve

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Current: Sparring Partner/Questing Adventurer/Fencing Coach

Taunt? Or scaling?

[GolemsVoice]

In Arena, removal isn't always that guaranteed, and you have a lot of 2/3 mana cards, so go questing!

[Lethologica]

give it a rest with your questing behest
i wanna spar with my dueling guitar