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    Barbarian in the Playground
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    Default Beast Shape question

    Does change your physical scores when you change form aside from the listed bonuses the spell gives you? It says you assume the form of the animal, so I would assume that also means you get that forms physical stats, with a little extra boost from the spell.

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    Default Re: Beast Shape question

    actually no it doesn't the form itself is simply fluff and you only gain the listed abilities to your own stats regardless of the stats of the creature you change into.

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    Default Re: Beast Shape question

    Quote Originally Posted by thecrimsondawn View Post
    Does change your physical scores when you change form aside from the listed bonuses the spell gives you? It says you assume the form of the animal, so I would assume that also means you get that forms physical stats, with a little extra boost from the spell.
    No, the adjustments from the spell are applied to your basic stats. This was done to make polymorphing weaker in Pathfinder than it was in 3.5. So for example, if you are a 6 Str halfling and you use Beast Shape 2 to turn into a dire tiger, your strength in that form will only be 10, even though a dire tiger's monster entry gives it 27 Str.

    Shapeshifting in Pathfinder gives you:
    - the base land speed of whatever you turn into
    - all the natural attacks of your chosen form (and automatic proficiency)
    - whatever the spell or ability you used specifically gives you

    That's it.
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    But really, the important lesson here is this: Rather than making assumptions that don't fit with the text and then complaining about the text being wrong, why not just choose different assumptions that DO fit with the text?
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