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2017-11-28, 03:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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OOTS #1106 - The Discussion Thread
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2017-11-28, 03:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1106 - The Discussion Thread
Huh. So I guess we can write out "dramatic alignment shift."
Though it remains an open question as to why she wanted to know Durkon's location, whether for reconciliation or for revenge -- possible she asked for it and Loki told her how to find him with the instructions "go kill him".
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2017-11-28, 03:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1106 - The Discussion Thread
OK, so she's still a cleric of Loki, but no explanation as to how she Turned rather than Rebuked Undead.
Edit: also, not outright stated, but I think this page bolsters the case that she's unaware of Durkon's vampirization.
I love the baby just grabbing for the helmet.
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2017-11-28, 03:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1106 - The Discussion Thread
Heh. I was excited when the calendar post went up, and my prayers were answered a few minutes later!
As I suspected, Hilgya is here for some sort of revenge on Durkon, not to save the world-- and, as I correctly surmised, Loki nudged her in that direction because of her own vengeance trip, not to stop the Godsmoot, which might be a violation of the rules.
I think it's pretty clear why she wanted Durkon's location, or have you not noticed the baby she's been carrying?Last edited by Ruck; 2017-11-28 at 03:59 PM.
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2017-11-28, 04:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1106 - The Discussion Thread
I just love V's comment.
Also who is this guardian Belkar talks about, or is that slang ?Last edited by Fyraltari; 2017-11-28 at 04:02 PM.
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2017-11-28, 04:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1106 - The Discussion Thread
Now, I was very sure that the Baby was Durkon's, but, now, after this in-universe lampshading of how sure it was that it was so, I'm actually starting to consider that it might turn out to not be so...
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2017-11-28, 04:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1106 - The Discussion Thread
She seems awfully calm about running into the Order again. I guess someone's in for a surprise.
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2017-11-28, 04:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-11-28, 04:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1106 - The Discussion Thread
Hmm. Durkula isn't protected by the Godsmoot rules, but I assume the gods have their own sets of rules. These probably include restrictions on interference using clerics, but Loki can get away with this as a standard "answering a prayer for knowledge".
Curious though that the rules that made Loki act in a roundabout way such as this did not affect Hel's sending Durkula to invade the Dwarves' place and slaughter their cleric. Or perhaps they did, allowing Loki to send a cleric in response, and he chose her because he thought it would be funny.
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2017-11-28, 04:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-11-28, 04:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-11-28, 04:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1106 - The Discussion Thread
Yeah, belkar said durkon got laid, which was a bit unlikely. Short, bearded, smelly men are not so hot.
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2017-11-28, 04:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1106 - The Discussion Thread
Again: SoD talks about Evil gods defending the Dark One, and shows Loki defending the Dark One. At this point, I would say it is more likely that Loki is an Evil god who hates undead and therefore grants turning rather than rebuking. Lots of gods, even Evil ones, are known to have issues with undead and thus do not allow their clergy to command them - and I can easily imagine that Hel might have had a bit of a hand in ensuring she was the only undead deity of the northern pantheon.
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2017-11-28, 04:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1106 - The Discussion Thread
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2017-11-28, 04:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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"Slipped one past the guardian"
This made me laugh for 45 seconds straight."Life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced."---Kierkegaard
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2017-11-28, 04:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1106 - The Discussion Thread
It's not slang, surprisingly, but a reference to any number of old tales where the knight has to get past the guardian to get the girl. Most famous example currently would be the subversion in the first Shrek movie, which ends up going straight (so, a double subversion, I guess).
And yes, V knows how reality works rather well.
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2017-11-28, 04:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-11-28, 04:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1106 - The Discussion Thread
I always thought of Hilgya as chaotic neutral--committed to personal freedom. Not sure if Loki would be Chaotic Neutral of Chaotic Evil in this world, but clerics are allowed to be one "step" apart in alignment from their god so either way a non-evil cleric of Loki is perfectly legit.
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2017-11-28, 04:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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OG LG indeed!
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2017-11-28, 04:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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"Slipping one past the goalie" is a euphemism for impregnating a woman. (I think it maybe originated from Seinfeld?) I'm assuming hockey doesn't exist in OOTS-world, so "guardian" is the universe-appropriate substitute.
Well, if he's her baby-daddy, as all evidence seems to suggest, she could want a lot of things from him-- although killing him for knocking her up and then sending her away certainly seems more than plausible to me.
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2017-11-28, 04:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-11-28, 04:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1106 - The Discussion Thread
I'm sure she's here for revenge at this point.
Which is funny, because I'm sure if she were to ask Durkon to help raise the baby he would, Cause duty.Now, Back to Lurking!
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2017-11-28, 04:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-11-28, 04:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1106 - The Discussion Thread
I love how many punchlines are basically direct jabs at forum users.
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A father taken by time, a brother dead by my own hand.
With this work behold my grief, in Stone and shifting sand.
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2017-11-28, 04:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1106 - The Discussion Thread
Something something...probability...drama...alley...copper-piece harlot...something something. Ah, poor V. Logic so rarely triumphs in the world of storytelling.
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2017-11-28, 04:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1106 - The Discussion Thread
I still think Hilgya is CN, but that doesn't preclude revenge.
I think what this strip does tell us is that Rich doesn't intend to clear up the mystery of Hilgya's motivations at this time - it's a deliberate ambiguity.
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2017-11-28, 04:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1106 - The Discussion Thread
I am loving this vampire arc!
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2017-11-28, 04:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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