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2016-11-11, 09:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Lazylord: what to use extra loot on?
We all know and love/hate the Lazylord: the build that can pride itself on never attacking (or at least never wanting to hit). As a result, they don't have to invest in a weapon.
However, the system still assumes every PC will be constantly upgrading three pieces of equipment (NAD-booster, armor, weapon). What is the best thing for a Lazylord to do with the extra GP he's got as a result of this?Creator of the LA-assignment thread.
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2016-11-11, 09:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lazylord: what to use extra loot on?
There are weapons and implements with daily and per-encounter powers that are pretty awesome.
Holy symbols are often used for this because they are slotless; but if you have a hand free, any implement or weapon can be used for this.
On the other hand, there is a weapon that grants a bonus to all attacks you grant, so maybe your hand is taken. :) And many warlord lazylord attacks are weapon based. So maybe you are reduced to a collection of holy symbols.
On the other hand, having another body on the field generating OAs on foes moving around has value. It costs one feat (melee training) and a weapon to be reasonably effective at this. Not great, but of value.
If you can somehow get movement disruption in there (knock prone, slow or immobalize) it becomes extremely valuable. One of the shaman's spirits basically just do that (OA to stop movement) and it has pretty high value.
This violates the lazylord rule, but failing to treat yourself as a weapon is also a tactical error. ;)
There are a pile of useful magic items you can equip. Often players are forced to use far lower level magic items, as their budget it kept on their AC NAD and ATK bonuses; you can grab them earlier. Sadly, most of the best ones are +damage per-hit and extra basic attacks, which you don't want to bother with.
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2016-11-12, 04:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lazylord: what to use extra loot on?
Utility items. I've got a really old guide about that.
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2016-11-14, 10:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lazylord: what to use extra loot on?
Battle Standard of Healing: small but free healz.
Battle Standard of Vanguard: defense
Battle Standard of Stalwart: attack boost
I know you're not looking for weapons, but these don't require attacking:
Communal Weapon: a stack of +1 to rolls
Chieftain's Weapon: your allies are more accurate
Captain's Weapon (rare): Instant Warlord in a can, er enchantment
Battlemaster's Weapon: power recovery
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2016-11-14, 05:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lazylord: what to use extra loot on?
Utility items are definitely the way to go.
Beyond that, there are a few little things you can do to improve defenses relatively inexpensively. A lazy build with one free hand can take a parrying dagger of the mage for +1 untyped AC. A build with a shield (or a shield bonus) can off-hand a rhythm blade dagger. That kind of thing.
You could also spend your money on items that interact between characters. For example, you could buy your team a set of shared, bonded or teamstrike tattoos.
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2016-11-14, 05:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lazylord: what to use extra loot on?
Also, Golden Crown of Battle Command (I think it's called- doing this off the top of my head) in Paragon- very nice bonus to granted attacks.
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2016-11-14, 06:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lazylord: what to use extra loot on?
Another great head item that's available for significantly cheaper is the Helm of Heroes. As a daily item power it's not quite as good for general use, but changing a granted basic attack to a granted standard action can be absolutely absurd (depending on your allies, of course).
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2016-11-20, 09:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-11-20, 04:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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