Ways of psionically adding energy damage (preferably sonic) to weapon attacks?

[Phhase]

I'm wondering if there's a convenient way for a psychic warrior to temporarily add sonic damage to a ranged weapon attack. Is there such a thing?

[MaxiDuRaritry]

There's this handy little power named weapon of energy...

Apply one of the feats that alters a spell's energy type?

[Phhase]

There's this handy little power named weapon of energy...

Apply one of the feats that alters a spell's energy type?

That's a good start, but IS there a metapsi feat that alters energy type? I couldn't find one. If I could, I could just apply it to Dissolving weapon instead.

[MaxiDuRaritry]

Energy Substitution is a metamagic feat with a +0 level adjustment, so it wouldn't take anything to use it on your powers, since you wouldn't even need to convert it. You wouldn't even have to expend your psionic focus.

[Phhase]

Energy Substitution is a metamagic feat with a +0 level adjustment, so it wouldn't take anything to use it on your powers, since you wouldn't even need to convert it. You wouldn't even have to expend your psionic focus.

True but it's a metamagic feat. Can you apply that to a psionic effect?

[Doctor Despair]

Draconic Heritage for a dragon with a sonic breath, then Dragonfire Strike? Kinda intensive, but it's a feat I just put on ranger/scout NPC, so it came to mind.

[MaxiDuRaritry]

True but it's a metamagic feat. Can you apply that to a psionic effect?

There's literally no difference between one and the other if they're both +0 adjustment feats; the only difference I can think of is that sorcerers suffer the full-round casting time when applying it. If nothing else, take the Magic mantle to make both count as the same.

[Phhase]

There's literally no difference between one and the other if they're both +0 adjustment feats; the only difference I can think of is that sorcerers suffer the full-round casting time when applying it. If nothing else, take the Magic mantle to make both count as the same.

Huh. Well TIL. As an aside, I know there are rules for hitting magic weapons and items with weapon attacks, but how do they hold up to energy attacks? Would sonic damage also ignore the effects of an item being magical on its durability?

[ShurikVch]

That's a good start, but IS there a metapsi feat that alters energy type? I couldn't find one. If I could, I could just apply it to Dissolving weapon instead.

Psionic Energy Substitution [Metapsionic]

Also, you can take couple of levels in Sonokineticist to get the Energize Weapon CF

[Psyren]

Energy Substitution is a metamagic feat with a +0 level adjustment, so it wouldn't take anything to use it on your powers, since you wouldn't even need to convert it. You wouldn't even have to expend your psionic focus.

Wait, what? Even +0 metapsionics (like Transdimensional Power from CPsi) generally make you expend your focus. That's basically the psionic equivalent of the sorcerer's increased casting time (since manifesters are spontaneous casters too), just spread out over two rounds instead of all occurring in one.

[freduncio]

Wait, what? Even +0 metapsionics (like Transdimensional Power from CPsi) generally make you expend your focus. That's basically the psionic equivalent of the sorcerer's increased casting time (since manifesters are spontaneous casters too), just spread out over two rounds instead of all occurring in one.

Metapsionics that expend only your Focus are the equivalent of +1 metamagic. Like Maximize Spell costing +3 levels and Maximize Power costing +4 PP (the equivalent of +2 levels) plus your Focus.
So, metamagic that doesn't increase the Spell level, when converted to psionics doesn't cost anything, not even your Focus.

Edit: Wrong assumptions

[MaxiDuRaritry]

Wait, what? Even +0 metapsionics (like Transdimensional Power from CPsi) generally make you expend your focus. That's basically the psionic equivalent of the sorcerer's increased casting time (since manifesters are spontaneous casters too), just spread out over two rounds instead of all occurring in one.

The conversion rate is typically (metamagic level adjustment x 2) in pp - 2 pp + focus to make up for the cheaper cost. So if the level adjustment is 0, the focus part wouldn't really apply.

[Psyren]

Metapsionics that expend only your Focus are the equivalent of +1 metamagic. Like Maximize Spell costing +3 levels and Maximize Power costing +4 PP (the equivalent of +2 levels) plus your Focus.
So, metamagic that doesn't increase the Spell level, when converted to psionics doesn't cost anything, not even your Focus.

The conversion rate is typically (metamagic level adjustment x 2) in pp - 2 pp + focus to make up for the cheaper cost. So if the level adjustment is 0, the focus part wouldn't really apply.

Yeah that doesn't follow for me. I get the mathematical conversion, but IIRC the only metapsionic that doesn't cost focus is Metapower. Even if a given metamagic would be completely free, it would still take a longer casting time for a sorcerer or need to be added in advance for a wizard.

[freduncio]

You're right. I was reading the DSP Metapsionic Cost entry

Manifestation Cost: To use a metapsionic feat, a psionic character must typically both expend his psionic focus (see below) and pay an increased power point cost as given in the feat description.

instead of the 3.5 entry

Manifestation Cost: To use a metapsionic feat, a psionic character must both expend his psionic focus (see the Concentration skill description) and pay an increased power point cost as given in the feat description.

, and was thinking that since every Metapsionic feat includes "You must expend your psionic focus to use this feat", the Psionic Energy Substitution was exempt from that cost as it doesn't have the clause. But looking the other feats in that page, it came to me asa being was sloppy formating from the autor.

[Phhase]

Psionic Energy Substitution [Metapsionic]

Also, you can take couple of levels in Sonokineticist to get the Energize Weapon CF

Yeah, but this character in particular I wanna go psi warrior -> elocator. Good catch on the feat though, thanks.