WarKitty's Feline Frenzy Random Banter #216

[WarKitty]

That reminds me. Evaluate the truth of the following sentence:

The current King of France is not bald.

[Qwertystop]

That reminds me. Evaluate the truth of the following sentence:

The current King of France is not bald.

Null reference.

[WarKitty]

Null reference.

Hmm...

How about "Either the current king of france is bald, or this sentence is null"?

[Qwertystop]

Hmm...

How about "Either the current king of france is bald, or this sentence is null"?

If the parsing process takes an error in the A of "A or B" to be equivalent to "A is false", it falls to the second term. The second term claims the sentence is null. The sentence is not null. Thus: False, which is generally not the same as null. If false is the same as null, then it resolves as undecidable, and no sensible system capable of determining a self-referential claim to be undecidable would then try to continue evaluating the claim based on that, so it stops there.

This is an old paradox, seriously.

(If it doesn't do that first thing, we're in the same situation as the first example, since everything falls apart on A)

[DataNinja]

I'm curious as to whether they match what other people think of (and what country people in countries without Presidents think of given the word "President")

Me, I live in Canada. So any mention of King or Queen (especially the latter) tends to call up images of either our Head of State, or a historical monarch of England.

President always makes me think of the country that I can see if I look south across the water on a clear day.

[HalfTangible]

King of England (or the britons, depending on my mood
Queen of Sheba

...

What?

[LaZodiac]

Queen of England.

King of Pain.

[Aedilred]

That reminds me. Evaluate the truth of the following sentence:

The current King of France is not bald.

Depends which king, although the title makes it easier.

King Louis XIX/XX of France:

Or Henry V/VII, King of the French:

Personally I'm a Unionist and so would favour Henry, of the two. Calling either of them bald would be a bit harsh, although Henry is definitely balding.

Yes, I know that's not the point in the question.

[WarKitty]

If the parsing process takes an error in the A of "A or B" to be equivalent to "A is false", it falls to the second term. The second term claims the sentence is null. The sentence is not null. Thus: False, which is generally not the same as null. If false is the same as null, then it resolves as undecidable, and no sensible system capable of determining a self-referential claim to be undecidable would then try to continue evaluating the claim based on that, so it stops there.

This is an old paradox, seriously.

(If it doesn't do that first thing, we're in the same situation as the first example, since everything falls apart on A)

Old and really really annoying, as I explored in my favorite philosophy paper. It's really really hard to get a null value into a consistent logic that does what we want it to do.

[goto124]

I have, maybe because I'm just more used to mobile.

Jepp, prefer the mobile version, too. Only thing that really annoys me is not being able to select tags and deleting PMs. (Mods? *hint hint*)

Yay, now I know I'm not weird!

[DataNinja]

Yay, now I know I'm not weird!

...I dunno why you're using us as a gauge for normality, here.

[goto124]

Normal enough that other people are also doing it. Not the best metric, admittingly

[Teddy]

Realized something possibly-odd today. I live in the US. When I hear "King" or "Queen", no nation or name specified, I think of specific countries. I'm curious as to whether they match what other people think of (and what country people in countries without Presidents think of given the word "President").

My associations spoilered so as to not bias the results - do not read until after your answer.

Spoiler

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Queen: England.
King: France. Yes, even though France hasn't had a king for ages.

If you say president, I'm most likely going to think of USA, thereafter Finland.

Here's another one for you, what country do you associate with "Prime Minister"?

Spoiler: Mine

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United Kingdoms, but it is a tough call.

[HalfTangible]

If you say president, I'm most likely going to think of USA, thereafter Finland.

Here's another one for you, what country do you associate with "Prime Minister"?

Spoiler: Mine

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United Kingdoms, but it is a tough call.

The UK, followed by Canada.

"Harriet Jones, former Prime Minister"
"Yes, we know who you are."

[DataNinja]

Here's another one for you, what country do you associate with "Prime Minister"?

That'd be Canada for me.
(Big surprise.)

[enderlord99]

Considering that calling something "****" and calling it "the ****" mean opposite things, is calling someone a "the-****–head" a compliment?

[DataNinja]

Considering that calling something "****" and calling it "the ****" mean opposite things, is calling someone a "the-****–head" a compliment?

Probably not. But, as with a lot of language, intent (and your relationship with the person) has a lot to do with things.

[Qwertystop]

If you say president, I'm most likely going to think of USA, thereafter Finland.

Here's another one for you, what country do you associate with "Prime Minister"?

Spoiler: Mine

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United Kingdoms, but it is a tough call.

UK for me.

[FinnLassie]

Here's another one for you, what country do you associate with "Prime Minister"?

Spoiler: Mine

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United Kingdoms, but it is a tough call.

Why Finland of course! Just like when someone says president. We gotem both!

As for queen and king, Queen Elizabeth II comes first for queen and for king... Haakon, Crown Prince of Norway. Which makes no sense. I guess I have already adjusted my brain to his future as the king. Surprised me, since the King of Sweden should in a sense come to mind first.

[2D8HP]

Realized something possibly-odd today. I live in the US. When I hear "King" or "Queen", no nation or name specified, I think of specific countries. I'm curious as to whether they match what other people think of (and what country people in countries without Presidents think of given the word "President")....

Queen:
Sa Majesté Elizabeth Deux, par la grâce de Dieu Reine du Royaume-Uni, du Canada et de ses autres royaumes et territoires, Chef du Commonwealth, Défenseur de la Foi

The rest are transitory

[factotum]

Queen, King and Prime Minister I associate with the UK. When I went to school we had to learn the kings and queens of merrie old England from 1066 up to the present day, so whenever other royalty comes up my thoughts tend to run, "Oh, X has a king as well?". President is generally associated with the US.

[Thufir]

President I think US. Queen and Prime Minister I think UK. King I think Arthur, so medieval fantasy UK.

[LaZodiac]

I'm Canadian so you all know what I think when I hear Prime Minister.

Also hey look Wind Waker LP. We're boats now.

[WarKitty]

I bought a car!

[DataNinja]

Nice!

Your Responsibility went up by 1. Your Expenses went up by 5. Your Personal Freedom went up by 7. Your Adultness went up by 3.

May you not have to deal with terrible, terrible traffic.

[WarKitty]

Nice!

Your Responsibility went up by 1. Your Expenses went up by 5. Your Personal Freedom went up by 7. Your Adultness went up by 3.

May you not have to deal with terrible, terrible traffic.

Hehe. Expenses went way up but they shouldn't stay up - I'd say I can pay this thing off in 6 months. Obviously I'll have to pay insurance, but it doesn't look like that would be too bad (I'm over 25 with a clean record).

[factotum]

You need to worry about servicing as well, don't forget. Also, does the US have an equivalent of the UK MoT test where you have to get the car checked out for safety every 12 months?

[Qwertystop]

Fuel will also be a cost.

[WarKitty]

Trust me, I've counted. I also got a 3-year service plan.

It's a bit more of a cost, but having a car also means I have a lot more options when it comes to making money.

I'm thinking of taking up plasma donation. Apparently around here they'll pay you extra if you agree to let them give you certain vaccines.

[HalfTangible]

You need to worry about servicing as well, don't forget. Also, does the US have an equivalent of the UK MoT test where you have to get the car checked out for safety every 12 months?

I think that's a state by state thing here; in Texas you need to get a state inspection every year.