MASS CHAOS I: Better Name Not Found

[Logic]

I have two votes, of course I've been on every wagon that's killed someone. Also, one of those wagons was a wolf. Meanwhile you have been on 0 wagons that led to a wolf death.

I'd also like to point out that's true of more than half of the remaining players, since only one wolf has been lynched.

[Duck999]

Day 6 Over

After killing the fiendish fowl, the people of Chaosville (tm) were starting to gain some momentum and everything seemed to be going right. More people showed up than previously, maybe encouraged by the dead fiend put on display as a message to the remaining wolves. The townsfolk search high and low, but with so many people out and about, it just becomes more confusing. Eventually, however, a small band of influential people find someone to kill. But even after this death, there are more evil people out there, and no one knows what they're up against.

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ThePhantom died. He was the vortexer, evil.

Begin Night 6

48 hours.

[Grand Arbiter]

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ThePhantom died. He was the vortexer, evil.

Wolves beware, The Doctor is in the house.

[Xihirli]

With a sonic screwdriver!

[flat_footed]

If Libro misses with the banes:

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[Grand Arbiter]

If Libro misses with the banes:

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Don't be daft, I'd have an umbrella. I wouldn't want to catch a cold.

With a sonic screwdriver!

I guess one might say the wolves are screwed. *rimshot*

[Logic]

Don't be daft, I'd have an umbrella. I wouldn't want to catch a cold.



I guess one might say the wolves are screwed. *rimshot*

You're supposed to have shades with that. Or at the very least, this:

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[Duck999]

End Night 6

After recent events, some townies can rest knowing (thinking) they're safe. Some stay up at night, doing what they can with their training and abilities. Some stay up for other purposes, though. Once again, the evil of the town prowl the dark streets, looking for anything that could be easy prey. Once again, they find some, though it's slightly less easy, they pull off the trick of killing it.

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Libro died. He was the doctor, a townie.

Begin Day 7

72-ish hours.

[Grand Arbiter]

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Razza-fraggin no good confabulated contraption of a bane *mumblegrumblecuss*

[Logic]

Voting records don't lie, and Ramsus looks far more townish than he did previously.

Who looks the worst to me is igordragonian. He took his vote off of Ramsus late in the day when Ramsus was the alternative wagon to a wolf.

[Aventine]

Voting records don't lie, and Ramsus looks far more townish than he did previously.

I disagree, to be honest. He never seemed to have much interest in actually killing Phantom and spent most of the day trying to get people to switch to me. At one point he complained that the votes on him forced him to use his own votes defensively, to keep himself alive rather than go after people he wanted to lynch. He was specifically talking about not wanting to vote for Libro, but given how much effort he put into making me look wolfy compared to the effectively non-existent effort to justify the Phantom votes. Well, it looks to me like the same unhappiness about being forced to vote for Libro to save himself was in play with Phantom. He even eventually lamented that there wasn't enough time to switch the wagon from Phantom onto me:

So yeah, I'm super suspicious of Aventine right now. It's just also too late in the day for me to think it's a good idea to switch off thePhantom.

igordragonian is not the worst choice though; my opinion on this post has not changed.

About Eleena I have voted for her, for voting for someone she was sure s/he is a third party- NOT wolf- which isn't a town friendly behavior.

Mostly good, but this post ... screams "hey, remember when I bussed my wolf buddy? I must be town, huh?"

[igordragonian]

Ermmm...
Ehhh
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I have nothing smart to say, honestly.

Actually my only line of defence, is my stupidity... Which you may choose to believe or not.

[Ramsus]

Both my top two wolf suspects voting for the same person? A person who switched their vote off me and thus helped a wolf get lynched? Yeaaaaah. I'm gonna vote for Logic.

[Xihirli]

Logic and also Logic because I've been illicitly bought by the mob.

[Generic-Guy]

This sounds Logical to me.

No, i am voteing seriously for Logic.

[Aventine]

Actually my only line of defence, is my stupidity... Which you may choose to believe or not.

Clearly, I cannot drink the wine in front of me.

More seriously, got any reads worth sharing? You're not actually under real pressure anymore with the Logic train leaving the station, but giving analysis and reads is still the most fundamentally pro-town action you can take. And people seem to want to kill one of the two people left who are actually trying to solve the game.

Both my top two wolf suspects voting for the same person? A person who switched their vote off me and thus helped a wolf get lynched? Yeaaaaah. I'm gonna vote for Logic.

Do you genuinely believe his late switch off of you contributed to the results of the lynch? Even considering that, according to Libro's count, it was six to three when he lifted his vote? Even considering that he actually didn't lift his vote? (Look at post #253...)

So, what you're saying is: igordragonian (doesn't) lift his vote for you when you are well behind in the voting anyway, and that results in is completely irrelevant to a wolf getting lynched, so he must be town. But, when I lifted my vote for Libro (and actually did lift it), taking him out of sole lead and into a three-way tie, it is obviously part of a cunning plan to get Libro killed.


Can anybody give me a logical reason to vote for Logic? Crap, that was not intentional...not that I'm gonna change it now

[Ramsus]

Ok you make a fair point about igordragonian Aventine. I hadn't noticed that other vote on me and you're both right that could have been a rather feeble attempt of a wolf trying to look town (though I honestly think a wolf would have actually removed their vote in that case to avoid this very kind of thing).

As for Logic, he didn't believe Libro's claim for no given reason at all and his reason for voting for anyone the last few days has been "helped get a wolf killed". Sure he's on the surface accusing them of busing but.... accusing everyone of busing no matter where in the wagon their vote was?

[flat_footed]

Whomever gave me the boost last night, thanks! Shoot me a PM and I'll return the favor.

Xihirli
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I've been against multiple voters the whole game, but messing with my vote? Not gonna fly.

[Ramsus]

Why are you voting for Xihirli? That's not even one of the suspects.

[flat_footed]

I'm more suspicious of the vote manipulation and multiple voters than anything right now. I'd rather be persuaded to vote differently than have my say nulled.

[igordragonian]

Vote manipulation is just an ability...


Hmm. since it was proven that Libro was what he claim to be- I think we should vote whoever Libro has voted- this our only sure lead.

[flat_footed]

True, but discourse is much preferred. I have been discoursed to a new course, as evinced by my new votes, of course.

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[Thematthew]

It sounds like Logic might be flavor of the week.

[Aventine]

@Ramsus: I'm willing to believe that the weirdness with igordragonian was an honest mistake. I'm voting for him because of that bad post from earlier, and because Logic was voting for him so my vote would start to be actual pressure.

As for Logic, so what if he didn't believe Libro's claim? How does that make him wolfy? And this bit:

and his reason for voting for anyone the last few days has been "helped get a wolf killed". Sure he's on the surface accusing them of busing but.... accusing everyone of busing no matter where in the wagon their vote was?

Is blatantly untrue. Voted for Libro for being fourth on a wagon that had no counter. Voted for you because your response to my poke was very wolfy (refuse to give any reads/analysis and accuse me of trying to get Libro killed...by taking my vote off of him). Voted for igordragonian for pulling off the counter-wagon to a wolf wagon well after it makes any difference.

@igordragonian: Being a baner would not give Libro any more information than the rest of us. Why would we follow his votes?

True, but discourse is much preferred. I have been discoursed to a new course, as evinced by my new votes, of course.

Logic
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Huh? "Discourse is preferred, but I am going to join the reasonless wagon without any discourse over why?"

It sounds like Logic might be flavor of the week.

*throws hands up in frustration*

Fine. If people are going to wagon with no discussion or analysis, just random wagoning, then there is nothing I can do to stop it. But don't expect me to drink the Kool-Aid

[flat_footed]

Huh? "Discourse is preferred, but I am going to join the reasonless wagon without any discourse over why?"

There was a fair amount of PM chatter, from which I was introduced to new information.

[igordragonian]

I thought the masons know each other

[Logic]

It looks like I need to role claim, though I am reluctant do so. I am a baner of a sort. I only spare my target for the following day cycle, and upon the end of the day, they will expire. Both my target and I are informed if the wolves targeted that person for the nightkill upon daybreak.

So, when I am lynched, look very carefully at our double voters: Xihirli and Ramsus. I find it hard to believe that they are on the same side. Eggel has been quiet for far too long to not seem suspicious, and Thematthew is not contributing as much as what I remember of his earlier playstyle. igordragonian remains my top suspect.

[Ramsus]

I didn't realize Eggel was still alive.

[Aventine]

For the record: Logic's claim matches what he told me in private a while back. We haven't been actively coordinating nearly as much as Ramsus seems to think, but we have sent each other a few PMs.

Also, I expect Eggel (and OrbitalPanic as well) is likely going to AL very soon (today?).

[Logic]

As for why I claimed to Aventine: I was gifted a 1-use scry on night 2. I used it on Aventine on night 3, and he was revealed as town.