what capabilities will add most? (4E)

[Duff]

Party is currently 14th level
I'm currently playing a Shader Kai fighter- chain specialist (tempest fighting). Basic attacks knock down and slide.
I'm a little bored with the character. While her 1 trick is a good one, it's still just one trick with variation. Also, I suspect the party needs more "Strike".

Rest of the party is:
Revanent Vyrolka bard with lots of vampire going on.
Ranged monk with sling
Hunter - I'm pretty sure this is a pretty typical shoot and scoot and hide build.
A Runepriest hybrid with (i think) warlord.

Party is now amongst the githyanki so I'm tossing around a Changeling Chaladin|rogue/daringblade posing as a githyanki

[Kurald Galain]

So, it strikes me (heh) that your party is almost all strikers.

Have you thought about adding a controller? A solid wizard or invoker would be a very effective force multiplier here.

[Duff]

So, it strikes me (heh) that your party is almost all strikers.

I'm interested to read that. I'd thought us short of striking, our official striker (the monk) is quite controller-y with his flurry popping minions and preventing AOOs and shifts.
Granted, our controller is a striker as well. It hadn't occurred to me that either of the other 2 are particularly striking though (but this is the only 4th ed I've played and I've coasted a bit on the rules knowledge of the other players for most of the campaign and we haven't played for a while).

[Kurald Galain]

I'm interested to read that. I'd thought us short of striking, our official striker (the monk) is quite controller-y with his flurry popping minions and preventing AOOs and shifts.

That's more defendery than controllery, really.

Granted, our controller is a striker as well.

And which character would that be? Bard, runepriest and warlord are leaders (and the latter two, striker-y leaders); hunter, monk, and vamp are strikers.

[Vhaidara]

And which character would that be? Bard, runepriest and warlord are leaders (and the latter two, striker-y leaders); hunter, monk, and vamp are strikers.

The party, by official roles
Bard: Controllery Leader (Revenant Vryloka is race, not class)
Monk: Controllery Striker (as described by OP)
Hunter: Strikery Controller (Hunter is the eclass ranger that is technically a controller)
Warpriest|Warlord: Strikery Leader (can be significantly more or less strikery based on exact build, though that hybrid does lean towards more)

Chaladin|Rogue could be interesting. Seems like you're looking for a higher damage defender, which to me generally leans towards either Fighter or a Swordmage|Warlock hybrid (I'm a fan of Aegis of Assault + Eldritch Strike on an Int/Con build)

[Kurald Galain]

The party, by official roles

Yes, but don't look at what's "official" but at what's actually in the party.

• A bard focusing on his vampire side is a leader/striker, not a controller.
• The monk as described by the OP is a defender.
• The hunter as described by the OP is "a striker as well". Besides, very few people consider the hunter-as-printed as anything other than a striker, just like the seeker and bladesinger. WOTC tended to fire a lot of people on the design team, it seems that the guy who knew how to design a controller was one of those.

[MwaO]

I think a way to look at it is that if you were a controller who bunched up targets, the Monk, the Hunter, and you could keep getting 3 attacks against every bunched up target to hurt them every round...

[Duff]

And which character would that be? Bard, runepriest and warlord are leaders (and the latter two, striker-y leaders); hunter, monk, and vamp are strikers.

That would be the Hunter, who is officially a controller/striker

[Duff]

Yes, but don't look at what's "official" but at what's actually in the party.

• A bard focusing on his vampire side is a leader/striker, not a controller.
• The monk as described by the OP is a defender.
• The hunter as described by the OP is "a striker as well". Besides, very few people consider the hunter-as-printed as anything other than a striker, just like the seeker and bladesinger. WOTC tended to fire a lot of people on the design team, it seems that the guy who knew how to design a controller was one of those.

Hmm, I had noted the party is lacking a good focused controller. Part of the reason my fighter took the path she did was to give some hard control.

Would you say a genuine controller (such as a wizard) would help the party more than a defender?
Am I right that there are no charisma based controllers, nor martial controllers who could use charisma through daring blade?
(I quite like the idea of the changeling posing as Githyanki, and that means charisma to back my bluff...)

[ScrivenerofDoom]

I would definitely choose a wizard. My personal preference is an eladrin wizard/arcane wayfarer with lots of utility teleports but, judging by your other PCs, that might be a bit too plain vanilla for your group! :)

Maybe a shardmind wizard?

[Duff]

I was still mucking around with ideas when I got booted from the character builder and didn't get the chance to get back to it. So what I got was a warlock|Paladin (Cha based of course).
A changling with a hat of disguise so when they work out I'm not actually a Githyanki, I'll say I'm a 1/2 elf (or something) with a hat of disguise. And then if/when they realise im still hiding somthing I'll confess I'm actually a revanant but didn't want to scare them...

[ScrivenerofDoom]

Booted from the character builder, eh?

That means you don't have access to the offline character builder....

[Duff]

Booted from the character builder, eh?

That means you don't have access to the offline character builder....

True! worse than that, the only printer I could access is at the GM's house, so even if I had access to an offline generator, it wouldn't help.

[Arkhios]

True! worse than that, the only printer I could access is at the GM's house, so even if I had access to an offline generator, it wouldn't help.

Sure it would. Haven't you heard of printing as pdf? First print as pdf, send it to GM, or put it in pendrive, and print it on paper at GM's house.

[Duff]

Good thought. Thanks