Hogwarts Redux

[Duneyrr]

Logic for president- reasons are private.
TomTheMime for lynching (not that I think it's actually going to happen); I think that it's important to ensure that Tom is actually telling the truth before trusting his words. How easy would it be, in this situation, for him to lie about his scrying results and slide a wolf into a flock of otherwise confirmed lambs?

The answer? Somewhat easy. It would, however, be extremely risky. I'm actually surprised that more people didn't scry him N1, since he was asking for scries from a specialist for this exact reason on D1. I almost did, but figured I would get interference (I cleared someone else, instead). One of us can also (safely and privately) acquire the identity of the scrier, check them, and publicly clear Tom that way as well.

Edit: If Tom is a wolf, RoTWS, at least one player in the scry list, and the unknown seer (whose identity should eventually be known by any town networks) are wolves. That's a real house of cards.

[Tom the Mime]

No divination specialist contacted me. That scry was just me. A specialist would've given one more or two sets of five with the plan I had.

[Iceseer]

If I understand magic correctly can everyone who wants to the more the merrier go to the forbidden forest during the third part of the night phase.

[Duneyrr]

No divination specialist contacted me. That scry was just me. A specialist would've given one more or two sets of five with the plan I had.

How on earth did you manage six results with a single spell? If that's two sets of scries, then TWO results would be accurate, right?

[Tom the Mime]

How on earth did you manage six results with a single spell? If that's two sets of scries, then TWO results would be accurate, right?

I got some centaurs to help me read a fancy book

[Fin]

That also could have been a guess, for all you know.

Absolutely, that's why I said I'd give 'benefit of the doubt' rather than 'trust implicitly'

[Logic]

• Drakeburn - Not voting as of this count [0 for, 0 against]
• Duck999 - Kill Logic, Keep ----- [1 for (Tom the Mime) 0 against]
• Duneyrr - Kill Logic, Keep Duneyrr [2 for (Duneyrr, Iceseer) 0 against]
• Eternis - Kill Tom the Mime, Keep Logic [0 for, 0 against]
• Fin - Kill Indarra, Keep Fin. [1 for (Fin) 0 against]
• flat_footed - Not voting as of this count [0 for, 0 against]
• GrayDeath - DEAD
• Iceseer - Kill Indarra, Keep Duneyrr [0 for, 0 against]
• Indarra - Not voting as of this count [0 for, 3 against (Logic, Fin, Iceseer)]
• Logic - Kill Indarra, Keep Logic, [2 for (Logic, Eternis) 5 against (thematthew, duck, duneyrr, tom the mime, RoTWS)]
• Ramsus - Not voting as of this count [0 for, 0 against]
• RoTWS - Kill Logic, Keep Tom the Mime, [0 for, 0 against]
• Thematthew - Kill Logic, Keep Thematthew [1 for (thematthew), 0 against]
• Tom the Mime - Kill Logic, Keep Duck999 [1 for (RoTWS), 0 against]

Keep these interactions in mind for the future. However, wagonomics is a little less helpful than normal here, since we are playing follow the seer.

[Iceseer]

Flat_footed, indarra, drakeburn and ramsus where are you?

[Indarra]

I don't have a catch-vote today.
I am willing to state that Iceseer is a Prankster.

EDIT: So far as I am aware, the case against me entirely consists of two people scrying me.

[Ramsus]

I think I'll vote for Indarra and Fin.
I wish people would stop using the super bright green.

[Iceseer]

I think I'll change my vote for Logic and well since indarra has a plausible reason and verified i was town. I think logic should be killed off today so i'll try to protect the other oneIndarra. Indarra thank you for the vote for me but you are at the precipice of death shouldn't you vote for yourself?

[Logic]

I think I'll vote for Indarra and Fin.
I wish people would stop using the super bright green.

Sorry, but I can't really see the regular green. It looks too close to black.

- - - Updated - - -

As a compromise, I'll change my green text to "00BB00" which I can, at a glance, identify as green.

[Iceseer]

just trying it out

[Logic]

UPDATED

• Drakeburn - Not voting as of this count [0 for, 0 against]
• Duck999 - Kill Logic, Keep ----- [1 for (Tom the Mime) 0 against]
• Duneyrr - Kill Logic, Keep Duneyrr [2 for (Duneyrr, Iceseer) 0 against]
• Eternis - Kill Tom the Mime, Keep Logic [0 for, 0 against]
• Fin - Kill Indarra, Keep Fin. [1 for (Fin) 0 against]
• flat_footed - Not voting as of this count [0 for, 0 against]
• GrayDeath - DEAD
• Iceseer - Kill Logic, Keep Indarra [0 for, 0 against]
• Indarra - Kill -----, Keep Iceseer. [1 for (Iceseer) 3 against (Logic, Fin, Ramsus)]
• Logic - Kill Indarra, Keep Logic, [2 for (Logic, Eternis) 6 against (thematthew, duck, duneyrr, tom the mime, RoTWS, Iceseer)]
• Ramsus - Kill Indarra, Keep Fin [0 for, 0 against]
• RoTWS - Kill Logic, Keep Tom the Mime, [0 for, 0 against]
• Thematthew - Kill Logic, Keep Thematthew [1 for (thematthew), 0 against]
• Tom the Mime - Kill Logic, Keep Duck999 [1 for (RoTWS), 0 against]

[flat_footed]

Flat_footed, indarra, drakeburn and ramsus where are you?

I had family obligations all day yesterday, which I clearly stated in a different thread. Didn't you see it?

If I understand magic correctly can everyone who wants to the more the merrier go to the forbidden forest during the third part of the night phase.

In a game where a single high-magic spell can be set as a trap and affect everyone who goes there at that time, this is an ill-advised suggestion Iceseer.

flat_footed is a hell of a guy. Surprised no one has voted for them yet!

[Iceseer]

I am trying to scr as many people as possible. And to do so I am trying to be supremely careful on this so it doesn't bite people in their a##. I am working with a fellow prankster to make this work. But like I said if you don't want to verify your affiliation don't go. I promise it can't kill you. But I understand not wanting to trust me.

[flat_footed]

I understand you're looking to scry as many as possible, but announcing it also let the Anti's know when to time one of their own traps.

[Iceseer]

I've got that covered. You should look at the magic spells some time they have great defenses for that very thing. That is specifically why I need it to be the third phase. I am the one casting the scry trap while my ally does the prep.

[Tom the Mime]

I've got that covered. You should look at the magic spells some time they have great defenses for that very thing. That is specifically why I need it to be the third phase. I am the one casting the scry trap while my ally does the prep.

AvatarVecna can correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure the defensive spells that block spells also block scries. And with just two of you, you don't have it covered. If they manage to supercharge something that acts first this can backfire badly and there are multiple ways the killjoys can block anything useful from happening anyway.

[AvatarVecna]

AvatarVecna can correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure the defensive spells that block spells also block scries. And with just two of you, you don't have it covered. If they manage to supercharge something that acts first this can backfire badly and there are multiple ways the killjoys can block anything useful from happening anyway.

I will confirm that Wards that block spells can block scries with those spell blocks, unless scries are specifically excluded (and I don't think any of the Wards exclude scries specifically).

[Iceseer]

Which is why he is blocking the laying of traps entirely. No matter how many are going to be there. But hey if people want to make this even more secure they can. Though too many people and it will stop me from scrying.

[Duck999]

I think just because we find out Logic's affiliation doesn't mean we have a 100% network, so nobody should go around claiming to strangers tonight.

Also, Duck999

[flat_footed]

This all falls apart if the Anti's cast the spell at a higher level than you. Are you maxing them out?

[Drakeburn]

I'd like apologize for my absence. I've been busy helping my mother around because she broke her leg.

Anyways..... I'll go with:

Keep Indarra and Kill Logic

[Tom the Mime]

This all falls apart if the Anti's cast the spell at a higher level than you. Are you maxing them out?

And keep in mind that maxing them out means at least level seven, possibly more with unique items.

I think just because we find out Logic's affiliation doesn't mean we have a 100% network, so nobody should go around claiming to strangers tonight.

If logic flips Prankster and the would be town network needs it for trust, I can try to get sent to detention for magical exhaustion tonight, actively trying to deplete my magic while being useful. If that ends up being the plan to get the town firm network, I'll let them know if I needed a little help to get there. Saves a lynch being used for it and yes, I do think a 4 strong town network is worth that much in this game with what the magic can be used for.

[Iceseer]

Yep I have level 7. That is what I was trying to get and thankfully I lucked into a partner for this.

[Tom the Mime]

Yep I have level 7. That is what I was trying to get and thankfully I lucked into a partner for this.

That brings us to the next point which is that if it blocks damage, it blocks scries.

[Iceseer]

Yeah which is why there is going to be a trap to stop people from setting other traps during the second phase of the night. I know a way to get around that trap but not without cost. I have already figured out almost every feasible thing that can go wrong and addressed them. Thankfully I have an ally. But I do need those willing to go along with the plan to not use a ward. If you want to set a ward set a trap instead on phase 1.

[Logic]

Since I know I am not living past today, let me just pick Drakeburn for the magic boon. Because I can't really hurt anything giving 1 person 1 magic, can I?

UPDATED through this post

• Drakeburn - Kill Logic, Keep Indarra [1 for (Logic) 0 against]
• Duck999 - Kill Logic, Keep Duck999 [2 for (Tom the Mime, Duck999) 0 against]
• Duneyrr - Kill Logic, Keep Duneyrr [2 for (Duneyrr, Iceseer) 0 against]
• Eternis - Kill Tom the Mime, Keep Logic [0 for, 0 against]
• Fin - Kill Indarra, Keep Fin. [1 for (Fin) 0 against]
• flat_footed - Kill Iceseer, Keep flat_footed. [1 for (flat_footed) 0 against]
• GrayDeath - DEAD
• Iceseer - Kill Logic, Keep Indarra [0 for, 1 against (flat_footed)]
• Indarra - Kill -----, Keep Iceseer. [2 for (Iceseer, Drakeburn) 3 against (Logic, Fin, Ramsus)]
• Logic - Kill Indarra, Keep Drakeburn, [1 for (Eternis) 7 against (thematthew, duck, duneyrr, Tom the Mime, RoTWS, Iceseer, Drakeburn)]
• Ramsus - Kill Indarra, Keep Fin [0 for, 0 against]
• RoTWS - Kill Logic, Keep Tom the Mime, [0 for, 0 against]
• Thematthew - Kill Logic, Keep Thematthew [1 for (thematthew) 0 against]
• Tom the Mime - Kill Logic, Keep Duck999 [1 for (RoTWS), 0 against]

As I will be unable to contribute more to this game due to my obviously impending doom, I would like to say I hope my player vote posts have illuminated things somewhat. I also wish I could have had more time with what is shaping up to be a very interesting game.

[Eternis]

Iceseer, because that plan has obvious flaws.
Eternis, on advisement.