Xanathar's Guide - Official Videos describing Confirmed Subclasses

[Mortis_Elrod]

Theurge as the only Wizard archetype makes a lot of sense from the perspective of, “Less is more”. By adding Theurge you’re actually kind of adding one archetype for every Cleric Domain, aren’t you?

It's a great way for WoTC to keep the wizards strong while appealing to the lesser learned mages.

"No see we only gave wizards one subclass, we aren't biased"

[DarkKnightJin]

It's a great way for WoTC to keep the wizards strong while appealing to the lesser learned mages.

"No see we only gave wizards one subclass, we aren't biased"

That would be an amazing move.
"See, just 1 subclass for Wizard." But they fail to mention that 1 subclass is effectively.. like.. 10.
I'm not fully sure how many Cleric Domains there are right now.
I think 7 in the PHB, 1 in the DMG, and 2 or 3 in XGtE.

[Mortis_Elrod]

That would be an amazing move.
"See, just 1 subclass for Wizard." But they fail to mention that 1 subclass is effectively.. like.. 10.
I'm not fully sure how many Cleric Domains there are right now.
I think 7 in the PHB, 1 in the DMG, and 2 or 3 in XGtE.

Oh man I forgot to think about the ones that would be in the same book.... oh WoTC you clever dogs

[Beechgnome]

Oh man I forgot to think about the ones that would be in the same book.... oh WoTC you clever dogs

At least 11. Seven in phb, Arcana in scag, Death in DMG and Forge plus 1 (Grave?) In xgte.

[Saiga]

Arcana is likely reprinted, allowing a Theurge access to all Domains in AL bar Death.

[Unoriginal]

Great, now you're making me hope they won't put the Theurge in.

[nickl_2000]

Looks like my prediction for today was right. Divine Soul Sorcerer confirmed

https://youtu.be/OhWa-U0a6-g

[jaappleton]

Great, now you're making me hope they won't put the Theurge in.

I both want the Theurge and don’t.

Chain Lightning and Tempest Channel Divinity shouldn’t mix. At all. They weren’t meant to be used together, at least not without investment like MCing.

Here’s the thing with Theurge: Out of the box, without having to do anything, it’s pretty much the most powerful spellcaster there is.

Now, we can all build some specific builds to be on par or even surpass it; but those builds almost always require sacrifice and investment. Feats, certain races, MC builds that don’t come together until a certain point, etc.

The issue I have with the Theurge is twofold:

One: It’s immediately the best and strongest caster without any investment

Two: It gets Cleric capstones before the Cleric. In absolutely no way is that acceptable.

[nickl_2000]

Divine Soul Sorcerer notes https://youtu.be/OhWa-U0a6-g

-Changed from Favored Soul to Divine Soul since there was a preconceived notion of what a Favored Soul was from the 3.5 class. They wanted to move away from that notion, so the name change helps with that.
-Biggest change - you pick what type of divine figure your magic comes from
-Cure wounds attached to good divine figure. There is also law and chaos that gives different spell sets
-MM sees it as the prophesied one, this is the god's chosen one (or possibly one of the parents is a deity)

Lots of other flavor information

[Unoriginal]

Well, I think the Xanathar's will do a lot to make the Sorcerer more attractive in the eyes of those who were dissatisfied with the class.

[Mortis_Elrod]

Well, I think the Xanathar's will do a lot to make the Sorcerer more attractive in the eyes of those who were dissatisfied with the class.

I think I'll still be making Sorlocks. But this time I can be Shadow

[samcifer]

Divine Soul Sorcerer notes https://youtu.be/OhWa-U0a6-g

-Changed from Favored Soul to Divine Soul since there was a preconceived notion of what a Favored Soul was from the 3.5 class. They wanted to move away from that notion, so the name change helps with that.
-Biggest change - you pick what type of divine figure your magic comes from
-Cure wounds attached to good divine figure. There is also law and chaos that gives different spell sets
-MM sees it as the prophesied one, this is the god's chosen one (or possibly one of the parents is a deity)

Lots of other flavor information

He makes it sound like the early versions of favored soul with divine domains. I just hope they kept the ability to choose either sorcerer or cleric spells. I love the larger spell list the most recent UA version of the FS (which is the one I use on my character).

[jaappleton]

I think I'll still be making Sorlocks. But this time I can be Shadow

Shadow Sorc 18 / Fiend Warlock 2

EB, Hex, and those very thematic "Summon Demon" spells from That Old Black Magic UA article.

Oh, make it a Dragonborn Revenant just to be the only Dragonborn with Darkvision and Necrotic Breath.

[Mortis_Elrod]

Shadow Sorc 18 / Fiend Warlock 2

EB, Hex, and those very thematic "Summon Demon" spells from That Old Black Magic UA article.

Oh, make it a Dragonborn Revenant just to be the only Dragonborn with Darkvision and Necrotic Breath.

Totally first character I make after Markus Velafi

[Saiga]

Divine Soul Sorcerer notes https://youtu.be/OhWa-U0a6-g

-Changed from Favored Soul to Divine Soul since there was a preconceived notion of what a Favored Soul was from the 3.5 class. They wanted to move away from that notion, so the name change helps with that.
-Biggest change - you pick what type of divine figure your magic comes from
-Cure wounds attached to good divine figure. There is also law and chaos that gives different spell sets
-MM sees it as the prophesied one, this is the god's chosen one (or possibly one of the parents is a deity)

Lots of other flavor information

Oh, cool! Cure Wounds doesn't have to be mandatory, that was one thing that bothered me about the subclass.

[Rogerdodger557]

JC confirmed that there are 27 new subclasses in XGtE, if you wanted to add a counter on the first post.

https://twitter.com/JeremyECrawford/...53691472699392

[Saiga]

27 new subclasses. One for Wizard, three for fighter, three for three other classes and two for everyone else (unless someone gets four - I doubt that).

I'm pretty sure Sorceror have three. What would the other two classes be that get three subclasses? I don't remember that many good options to be honest.

[Mortis_Elrod]

If we've seen everything either through SCAG or UA here are my predictions

Barbarian: Storm Herald, Ancestral Guardian
Bard: Glamour, Swords, Satire
Cleric: Forge, Grave,
Druid: Dreams, Twilight
Fighter: Cavalier, Samurai, Arcane Archer
Monk: Kensai, Drunken Master, Tranquility
Paladin: Conquest, Redemption
Ranger: Horizon Walker, Deep Stalker, Monster slayer
Rogue: inquisitive, Scout
Sorcerer: Shadow, Divine
Warlock: Celestial, Hexblade
Wizard: ???Theurge ???

[Saiga]

The SCAG isn't included in the 27 new subclasses. They're all from UA (previously confirmed via JC) and the SCAG subclasses are in addition to that.

[Mortis_Elrod]

The SCAG isn't included in the 27 new subclasses. They're all from UA (previously confirmed via JC) and the SCAG subclasses are in addition to that.

Let me go edit my predictions then

[Degwerks]

The SCAG isn't included in the 27 new subclasses. They're all from UA (previously confirmed via JC) and the SCAG subclasses are in addition to that.

So to clarify, we might expect to see 27 new sub-classes that haven't made book form, outside of UA?

[nickl_2000]

So to clarify, we might expect to see 27 new sub-classes that haven't made book form, outside of UA?

That is correct.

[Mortis_Elrod]

Yeah I still like my predictions and I hope I'm right I liked all the subclasses I predicted

[Degwerks]

Here's to hoping that they make a Swordmage out of either a fighter, bard, or rogue. Just a dream, I know, but I can hope.

[Beechgnome]

I expect there will be another sorcerer (phoenix?) but now if they are doing a planes book next I wonder if they will hold phoenix, stone, sea and SCAG's storm for that one.

That would let their 4 SCAG holdovers be Arcana, swashbuckler, bladesinger and one other, like Mastermind or Oath of Crown.

Mortis as for your picks they all seem reasonable, though I liked Whispers better than Satire and I think you wrote Harvest for Druid when you meant Shepherd?

[Mortis_Elrod]

I expect there will be another sorcerer (phoenix?) but now if they are doing a planes book next I wonder if they will hold phoenix, stone, sea and SCAG's storm for that one.

That would let their 4 SCAG holdovers be Arcana, swashbuckler, bladesinger and one other, like Mastermind or Oath of Crown.

Mortis as for your picks they all seem reasonable, though I liked Whispers better than Satire and I think you wrote Harvest for Druid when you meant Shepherd?

Shepherd is the one with summons right? Harvest was from the Druid UA that gave necrotic damage to spells and such.

I like both whispers and satire but I Love tumble. Best bonus action right there.

Edit: I mean twilight not harvest. Harvest was the name of the ability

[Zalabim]

Clearly the Sorcerer is getting five new subclasses. Storm sorcerer will also be one of the four reprints. So the sorcerer will have Storm, Sea, Stone, Shadow, Soul, and Sunbird in the book. In fact, the reprints will be Swashbuckler, Storm Sorcery, Sun Soul, and something else with an S. Singer something, perhaps.

[Aett_Thorn]

I'm actually a bit nervous about the order that they're doing these in. Why show us 3 fighter subclasses before even a single Barbarian or Wizard? Why not spread the love across the classes, instead of showing us multiples from certain classes and none from others so far?

[Mortis_Elrod]

Kinda hope they show monk or warlock today

[Naanomi]

Remember they said no FR specific subclasses from SCAG getting reprints. Leaves us with: Arcana Cleric, Crown Paladin, Swashbuckler and Mastermind Rogue, Storm Sorcerer, and Undying Warlock