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    Default BG: SOD and dual-classing

    So, thinking about something: how useful would SOD be as a dual-class bridge? Like, play through BGEE as class 1, switch in SOD, and start BG2 as a well leveled member of your 2nd class?
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    It could work, but generally the most optimal benchmarks for dualling out are level 9 (all the HP of your first class and the XP table being very favorable; it takes the same amount of XP to hit Fighter 9->10 as it takes to take Mage 1->10.) and 13 (as Fighter, the bonus +1/2 APR). It might be a bit harder to make it there on SoD.

    Technically, a level 9 ex-Fighter dualled into 10 Mage could work, because the XP cap there is 500,000 and that's the amount of XP you need to make it to 250,000 in both of these classes. However, it will likely take you a long while to hit the XP cap that way.

    If you don't care for perfectly optimal dualclassing or if you're dualling out of Thief then it matters much less, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winthur View Post
    It could work, but generally the most optimal benchmarks for dualling out are level 9 (all the HP of your first class and the XP table being very favorable; it takes the same amount of XP to hit Fighter 9->10 as it takes to take Mage 1->10.) and 13 (as Fighter, the bonus +1/2 APR). It might be a bit harder to make it there on SoD.

    Technically, a level 9 ex-Fighter dualled into 10 Mage could work, because the XP cap there is 500,000 and that's the amount of XP you need to make it to 250,000 in both of these classes. However, it will likely take you a long while to hit the XP cap that way.

    If you don't care for perfectly optimal dualclassing or if you're dualling out of Thief then it matters much less, of course.
    The xp cap is 500,000 in Shadow of Amn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winthur View Post
    It could work, but generally the most optimal benchmarks for dualling out are level 9 (all the HP of your first class and the XP table being very favorable; it takes the same amount of XP to hit Fighter 9->10 as it takes to take Mage 1->10.) and 13 (as Fighter, the bonus +1/2 APR). It might be a bit harder to make it there on SoD.

    Technically, a level 9 ex-Fighter dualled into 10 Mage could work, because the XP cap there is 500,000 and that's the amount of XP you need to make it to 250,000 in both of these classes. However, it will likely take you a long while to hit the XP cap that way.
    I did that more than once in BG2 - fighter all the way through 1, then dual-class to mage in 2. (Makes Tenser's Transformation a nasty beast...!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aotrs Commander View Post
    I did that more than once in BG2 - fighter all the way through 1, then dual-class to mage in 2. (Makes Tenser's Transformation a nasty beast...!)
    I've considered a few permutations of the good ones... the kensai-> wizard option, the berserker -> druid option (I really wish they allowed barbarian - > druid).

    One of my dual-classing issues is that I'm pretty sure that Bard is the perfect protagonist class in pretty much any D&D game, ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cikomyr View Post
    The xp cap is 500,000 in Shadow of Amn?
    Nope:

    Original BG1 (no TotSC): 89000
    Full BG1 (also EE): 161000
    SoD: 500000
    Amn: 2,950,000
    ToB: 8,000,000
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winthur View Post
    Nope:

    Original BG1 (no TotSC): 89000
    Full BG1 (also EE): 161000
    SoD: 500000
    Amn: 2,950,000
    ToB: 8,000,000
    Damn. Stoopid me, i forgot that SoD is a thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cikomyr View Post
    Damn. Stoopid me, i forgot that SoD is a thing
    In a thread about SoD, no less! That's honestly just a testament to how forgettable the experience is.
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    • Play through BG1 and SoD to get to level ~8.
    • Play through Irenicus' Dungeon to get to ~9.
    • Dual-class.
    • Have a decent party walk you around Athkatla disarming traps and killing bandits until you're not completely and utterly pathetic - the gladiator arena under the Copper Coronet is pretty good for this, as is the Circus tent.
    • Complete your first dungeon - Nalia's Castle for preference, even if you cheese the final fight with fireball/Cloudkill spam.


    You should now be a 9/9 Dual-Class. You might even be able to skip the last step, depending on your Exp table and how quickly you level up - you can easily be a 7/8 by the end of Irenicus' dungeon, if you aren't worried about perfect optimization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winthur View Post
    In a thread about SoD, no less! That's honestly just a testament to how forgettable the experience is.
    Actually, its because I my brain saw "So.." and thought "Shadow of.." so it just disregarded the wrong letter.

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    Actually, its because I my brain saw "So.." and thought "Shadow of.." so it just disregarded the wrong letter.
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