(OOC) The Primeval Dark

[Triskavanski]

Need to check FFd20s status effect pages.

[Stevesciguy]

Need to check FFd20s status effect pages.

I did. It isn't on there

[flat_footed]

They may be referring to Zombie, which reads:

This status effect causes the character to have their type changed to [Undead], but without any of the benefits of that type. Those inflicted are now damaged by healing spells and effects, but immune to death spells and effects. When hit points drops at or below 0 hit points, the status effect is removed and the character is unconscious.

[Stevesciguy]

They may be referring to Zombie, which reads:

Ooh, I hope not. I actually misread the ability during character creation, and thought it gave me the undead type. Not getting the benefits of that type would remove like 40% of the reason I picked the ability for my scorned power

[Mornings]

They may be referring to Zombie, which reads:

This status effect causes the character to have their type changed to [Undead], but without any of the benefits of that type. Those inflicted are now damaged by healing spells and effects, but immune to death spells and effects. When hit points drops at or below 0 hit points, the status effect is removed and the character is unconscious.

Ooh, I hope not. I actually misread the ability during character creation, and thought it gave me the undead type. Not getting the benefits of that type would remove like 40% of the reason I picked the ability for my scorned power

Flatfooted is correct. Furthermore, Erik didn't take 'Undead Form', he took 'Improved Undead Form', which is not an active ability. It modifies the base 'Undead Form' class ability of Gravewalker, making it an invalid choice for a Scorned Ability. As previously mentioned within the recruitment, Scorned abilities do not require you meet the prerequisites for them, however they do not grant prior or prerequisite abilities when you take them. Further, they don't grant other associate abilities; if you take lay on hands, you do not get mercies too.

Erik will need to select a different ability, or take the base Undead Form class ability.
This may be in your favor since you misinterpreted the function.

[Stevesciguy]

Flatfooted is correct. Furthermore, Erik didn't take 'Undead Form', he took 'Improved Undead Form', which is not an active ability. It modifies the base 'Undead Form' class ability of Gravewalker, making it an invalid choice for a Scorned Ability. As previously mentioned within the recruitment, Scorned abilities do not require you meet the prerequisites for them, however they do not grant prior or prerequisite abilities when you take them. Further, they don't grant other associate abilities; if you take lay on hands, you do not get mercies too.

Erik will need to select a different ability, or take the base Undead Form class ability.
This may be in your favor since you misinterpreted the function.

Oops

Edit: I can't find anything more appropriate than Undead Form, so we'll go with that. I'm picking skeleton form

[Toptomcat]

Scorned abilities aren't user-friendly, right? They don't come with an instinctive idea of how to use them, and we haven't actually experienced using them until we happen to do so for the first time, since we weren't Scorned before- right?

I wrote my post with the assumption that Walt used a Scorned ability instinctively, and that the experience was new to him.

Also, given his Flaw, only the Bloodrager part of his Scorned abilities mechanically turns him into a mindless berserker, but as a matter of RP I'm going to be treating them all as more or less different degrees of one big, linked thing, and roleplaying the degree of cognitive disruption of the non-bloodrage parts as being more significant than just a -2 alchemical penalty to Intelligence.

[Deadguy]

Stupid dice! Missed that check by 1...

[Mornings]

Scorned abilities aren't user-friendly, right? They don't come with an instinctive idea of how to use them, and we haven't actually experienced using them until we happen to do so for the first time, since we weren't Scorned before- right?

I wrote my post with the assumption that Walt used a Scorned ability instinctively, and that the experience was new to him.

Also, given his Flaw, only the Bloodrager part of his Scorned abilities mechanically turns him into a mindless berserker, but as a matter of RP I'm going to be treating them all as more or less different degrees of one big, linked thing, and roleplaying the degree of cognitive disruption of the non-bloodrage parts as being more significant than just a -2 alchemical penalty to Intelligence.

Correct. You did a good job with that.
You might have a sense for the changes to your body, but you don't completely understand those changes yet. Well, til you use them anyways.

[Triskavanski]

[roll] 1d20+5[/roll] vs 15

Yay.. :|

[Triskavanski]

... Lets try this again

(1d20+5)[11] vs 15

[Triskavanski]

We have been informed that isn't how it happened.
Reflex save: (1d20+10)[14]

Looking for that emergcy +1 I forgot somewhere

Acrobat slippers
In addition, the wearer gains a +2 competence bonus to CMD against trip maneuvers and on Reflex saves to avoid falling (including falling prone).

[flat_footed]

I should have group 2 and Stella IC up tonight as well. Not sure where Machari is again, no pms yet, but we're pressing forward. If Regina drops her though she'll be dead very quickly since she hasn't gotten any more rolls to recover from her helpless condition. Don't think it's likely she'll be able to lug her around til they escape. Hopefully she comes back soon. Stuff is about to pop-off.

In4Dimensions seems to be posting in another game, for what it's worth.

[Mornings]

In4Dimensions seems to be posting in another game, for what it's worth.

Yeh, it's cool. He sent me a pm.

I'll be working on group 1 and 2 later tonight. been busy the whole day.

[flat_footed]

Yeh, it's cool. He sent me a pm.

I'll be working on group 1 and 2 later tonight. been busy the whole day.

Ah, good. I'm all too familiar with how lethal things can get with a single post.

Be good to get Machari on her feet!

[Mornings]

Ah, good. I'm all too familiar with how lethal things can get with a single post.

Be good to get Machari on her feet!

Ah, I still remember poor Darakhellan.
Thats just another reminder how things can go south quickly. At least he didn't stay dead though

Machari will be out of the game for now. She might show up again in the future, but it'll be awhile.

Since group 2 has shrunk down to two PCs, I may bring in the PCs waiting in group 3 before their reality sheits the bed.

[Mornings]

Dark water (1d4)[1]
g1 vs e (1d20+4)[7] vs 10
g2 vs f (1d20+4)[15] vs 10
g3 vs w (1d20+4)[9] vs 10
g4 vs e (1d20+4)[10] vs 10
arrive (2d12)[17]

[Mornings]

f (1d3)[3] + (1d6)[1] Cursed, Wounded: Bleed 2, DC22 Heal
e (1d3)[3] + (1d6)[2] Cursed, Wounded: Bleed 2, DC22 Heal

might have to finish this tomorrow, getting late. it's gonna be a rough round.

[Stevesciguy]

f [roll0] + [roll1] Cursed, Wounded: Bleed 2, DC22 Heal
e [roll2] + [roll3] Cursed, Wounded: Bleed 2, DC22 Heal

might have to finish this tomorrow, getting late. it's gonna be a rough round.

RIP Erik, they're targeting hosed AC and I'm cursed

[Chromascope3D]

RIP Erik, they're targeting hosed AC and I'm cursed

Technically we're all flatfooted while climbing without a climb speed, so that could be any one of us.

Athletics sphere just ended up top of my priority list. :p

[Stevesciguy]

Technically we're all flatfooted while climbing without a climb speed, so that could be any one of us.

Athletics sphere just ended up top of my priority list. :p

Yeah, but Erik's AC is his main defense. Despite being a frontline fighter, his health is the second lowest of the four of us. I was going to rely on having a really high AC (27 once I cast shield) to keep him alive. But if they're targeting touch AC, he's dead.

I was foolishly confident that he'd make it through this combat nicely, since his flat-footed AC is only 2 lower than his regular AC. Mistakes were made.

No spheres for me, I have too many important feats that I get from being non-sphere.

[Triskavanski]

Well, I do have acrobatic slippers

hese supple gray leather slippers enable the wearer to keep his balance in precarious positions. The wearer retains his Dexterity bonus to AC when climbing, running, or using the Acrobatics skill to move on narrow surfaces or uneven ground without falling

[Mornings]

Yeah, but Erik's AC is his main defense. Despite being a frontline fighter, his health is the second lowest of the four of us. I was going to rely on having a really high AC (27 once I cast shield) to keep him alive. But if they're targeting touch AC, he's dead.

I was foolishly confident that he'd make it through this combat nicely, since his flat-footed AC is only 2 lower than his regular AC. Mistakes were made.

No spheres for me, I have too many important feats that I get from being non-sphere.

Well, I do have acrobatic slippers

hese supple gray leather slippers enable the wearer to keep his balance in precarious positions. The wearer retains his Dexterity bonus to AC when climbing, running, or using the Acrobatics skill to move on narrow surfaces or uneven ground without falling

Yeaaah, AC is good to have, but that's one minor layer of defense. Most Veilbeasts don't even target AC, but these scrubby ones do. Fortunately these things don't hit hard, but the proverbial timer on your 'clock' was cut a fair bit from that hit. Flat-footed touch attacks can be nasty. Since these things can sneak attack like nobody's business, Faux was also caught off-guard.

Fortunately, or unfortunately, that's not the main threat this round.
You've got bigger, immediate, problems rather than a cursed wound.


Welcome to the next round.

[Mornings]

Side note, Kazik can climb his full rope as a move, and can still continue climbing normally with his remaining actions. The door is at A10 (15ft up from where the rope ends), so he should be out this round if he can muscle his way through the water fountain. (it's a strength check to move through.)

Erik needs to haul-ass too, before he gets grappled. He's close enough to Kazik's rope to use that to assist his climb further.

Everyone else is in a pickle.

[Stevesciguy]

Side note, Kazik can climb his full rope as a move, and can still continue climbing normally with his remaining actions. The door is at A10 (15ft up from where the rope ends), so he should be out this round if he can muscle his way through the water fountain. (it's a strength check to move through.)

Erik needs to haul-ass too, before he gets grappled. He's close enough to Kazik's rope to use that to assist his climb further.

Everyone else is in a pickle.

I'll have to risk AoOs to get there, but it looks like I'm on a pretty nasty time limit. I don't have a weapon out, and I don't have improved unnamed strike, so I don't get any AoOs myself.

If I can get up there, my rope is long enough that it'd reach all the way to the water, if I can tie it off to somewhere. Booking it might be the best way to help the others get out

[Mornings]

I'll have to risk AoOs to get there, but it looks like I'm on a pretty nasty time limit. I don't have a weapon out, and I don't have improved unnamed strike, so I don't get any AoOs myself.

If I can get up there, my rope is long enough that it'd reach all the way to the water, if I can tie it off to somewhere. Booking it might be the best way to help the others get out

Can still make your acrobatics check to move through threatened space, despite you climbing. If anything, that's waaay cooler than a normal acrobatics haha.

[Stevesciguy]

Can still make your acrobatics check to move through threatened space, despite you climbing. If anything, that's waaay cooler than a normal acrobatics haha.

Oh, you're right! I totally forgot about that. My Acrobatics bonus isn't great, but it's better than nothing. I'll need to do four, right? Since I'm leaving three creature's threatened space the first time, and then again for the one on the right?

[Mornings]

Oh, you're right! I totally forgot about that. My Acrobatics bonus isn't great, but it's better than nothing. I'll need to do four, right? Since I'm leaving three creature's threatened space the first time, and then again for the one on the right?

Yeah. Would't worry too much about their to-hit either since it's low, and they're not particularly smart. Only their grapple is good.

[Stevesciguy]

Yeah. Would't worry too much about their to-hit either since it's low, and they're not particularly smart. Only their grapple is good.

Alright! Well, before anything else, I gotta make that reflex save...

Reflex: (1d20+8)[17] DC 14

Acrobatics 1: (1d20+5)[7] DC ?
Acrobatics 2: (1d20+5)[8] DC ?
Acrobatics 3: (1d20+5)[8] DC ?
Acrobatics 4: (1d20+5)[19] DC ?

Looks like I only need to move two spaces to get to the nearest part of the rope, which is great news

Climb 1: (1d20+7)[26] DC 10
Climb 2: (1d20+7)[19] DC 13

Let's hope for some good stuff...

Looks like I'm gonna take some AoOs, but at least I made it to the rope

Also, their to-hit is low, yeah, but so is my AC

[flat_footed]

Well, crap. If Matik is there we may be joining you four soon.

Also, a word of advice: Read through the skills and movement rules that you're going to use at least twice. Darakhellan was the result of an accidental AoO against my PC that killed him, and raised him as a creature that had to eat a sentient being once a day to survive.

Fun stuff!