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    Question "Shadow Golem" -- need to find referenced creature, likely from Monster Manual II

    There was a reference made elsewhere to an entry in the 3rd edition Monster Manual II -- a construct somewhat like a golem, but more clockworkish, and inhabited by a shadow spirit instead of an earth spirit.

    Could someone with access to that book give me the actual name, the page number, and an overview?

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    Default Re: "Shadow Golem" -- need to find referenced creature, likely from Monster Manual II

    Crafted on the plane of shadow is the shadesteel golem MM III p. 72.

    Not mine but a useful list of the different kinds of golems: http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthr...f-Golems-Redux

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    Default Re: "Shadow Golem" -- need to find referenced creature, likely from Monster Manual II

    Quote Originally Posted by lylsyly View Post
    Crafted on the plane of shadow is the shadesteel golem MM III p. 72.

    Not mine but a useful list of the different kinds of golems: http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthr...f-Golems-Redux
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    The concern is not realism in speculative fiction, but rather the sense that a setting or story could be real, fostered by internal consistency and coherence.

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    Default Re: "Shadow Golem" -- need to find referenced creature, likely from Monster Manual II

    Quote Originally Posted by Max_Killjoy View Post
    There was a reference made elsewhere to an entry in the 3rd edition Monster Manual II -- a construct somewhat like a golem, but more clockworkish, and inhabited by a shadow spirit instead of an earth spirit.

    Could someone with access to that book give me the actual name, the page number, and an overview?

    Thanks.
    The creatures you are likely thinking of are not actually classified as Golems. They are constructs, but they don't have "Golem" in their name.

    They are either from Monster Manual 2 or Fiend Folio. They are featured in the first part of the Shackled City AP.

    I can't remember the name but your description is a pefect fit.

    I will check my books if I get home from work.

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    Default Re: "Shadow Golem" -- need to find referenced creature, likely from Monster Manual II

    Quote Originally Posted by Zombimode View Post
    The creatures you are likely thinking of are not actually classified as Golems. They are constructs, but they don't have "Golem" in their name.

    They are either from Monster Manual 2 or Fiend Folio. They are featured in the first part of the Shackled City AP.

    I can't remember the name but your description is a pefect fit.

    I will check my books if I get home from work.
    Automatons, from Monster Manual 2.

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    Default Re: "Shadow Golem" -- need to find referenced creature, likely from Monster Manual II

    Quote Originally Posted by Telonius View Post
    Automatons, from Monster Manual 2.
    Yes, Automatons

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    Default Re: "Shadow Golem" -- need to find referenced creature, likely from Monster Manual II

    THAT is what I was looking for, thank you.

    3e Monster Manual II, pg 27-28 -- Automatons.

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    Default Re: "Shadow Golem" -- need to find referenced creature, likely from Monster Manual II

    Quote Originally Posted by Max_Killjoy View Post
    THAT is what I was looking for, thank you.

    3e Monster Manual II, pg 27-28 -- Automatons.

    Huh. I'd never read their fluff before...I had no idea of their shadowy connections.

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    Default Re: "Shadow Golem" -- need to find referenced creature, likely from Monster Manual II

    On a related note, Pathfinder has Shadow Golems, too. Different yet still similar. CR 14.

    http://archivesofnethys.com/MonsterD...Shadow%20Golem

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