2D8HP's extended mea culpa and Random Banter #218

[enderlord99]

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ION: You know what sounds delicious (to me)? Pancakes, bacon, hash-browns, apple cider, and coffee... with maple syrup in or on ALL of them.

[Anonymouswizard]

I've had to explain to a friend that you don't eat sweet scones plain. Also that cheese scones exist, but that's a minor footnote.

[Bartmanhomer]

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[Amidus Drexel]

RE: imgur - Well, that's unfortunate. Guess I'm moving to tumblr for my image hosting, then - they seem to be okay with hotlinking/referencing for the moment, at least.

I've had to explain to a friend that you don't eat sweet scones plain. Also that cheese scones exist, but that's a minor footnote.

This sounds like information I could use - I typically eat sweet scones plain (or with coffee). What should I be putting on them?

[Mith]

RE: imgur - Well, that's unfortunate. Guess I'm moving to tumblr for my image hosting, then - they seem to be okay with hotlinking/referencing for the moment, at least.



This sounds like information I could use - I typically eat sweet scones plain (or with coffee). What should I be putting on them?

Jam, or fresh fruit in my opinion.

[enderlord99]

This sounds like information I could use - I typically eat sweet scones plain (or with coffee). What should I be putting on them?

I'm confused. I thought you hated the concept of sweetness, yet you're saying that you eat scones with that property.

[factotum]

I've had to explain to a friend that you don't eat sweet scones plain.

I don't see why you can't? Heck, I'll eat slices of bread plain if the mood takes me...

[Anonymouswizard]

This sounds like information I could use - I typically eat sweet scones plain (or with coffee). What should I be putting on them?

Traditionally jam and clotted cream. There's a fierce argument here in the UK over whether you put the jam on first or the cream on first (obviously it's the jam, otherwise you can't spread it without smushing the cream).

I mean, there's actually nothing wrong with eating them plain, I've done it, but the fact that you normally don't surprises some people.

And now for the traditional joke, what's the fastest cake in the world?

Spoiler

Show

Too late, it's scone!

[SZbNAhL]

And now for the traditional joke, what's the fastest cake in the world?

Spoiler

Show

Too late, it's scone!

A joke which showcases the other great scone controversy, that being whether it rhymes with stone or gone.

[Torack]

I always say I love apple pies, but in reality, pecan pies are better in my opinion.

And scones alone ftw, innit.

[Aedilred]

RE: imgur - Well, that's unfortunate. Guess I'm moving to tumblr for my image hosting, then - they seem to be okay with hotlinking/referencing for the moment, at least.



This sounds like information I could use - I typically eat sweet scones plain (or with coffee). What should I be putting on them?

Jam and cream. Raspberry is probably the jam I reach for most often but strawberry is ok and cherry makes a nice change. I probably wouldn't put blackburrant or blueberry jam on a scone myself, but if you fancy it then go for it.

Put the jam on first or the cream first; it's entirely up to you. Some people will tell you that there is a regional rivalry over which it is. This is true, but only between Devon and Cornwall and I'm not from either so I'm happy to leave them to it. What's more, they seem to disagree even internally over which is locally correct.

(Personally, I am a cream first, then jam man, on the basis that cream is taking the place of butter).

Have a nice cup (or pot!) of tea on the side.

Now, here is the point at which I get myself ostracised from society (although there is at least one sensible person out there who agrees with me). When it comes to the cream, most people will recommend clotted cream. They are wrong. The real winner is whipped cream: that is, actual whipped cream, not aerosol cream from a can, obviously. Having said that, clotted cream is a perfectly adequate substitute if you can't be bothered with the faff or you're on a picnic or something.

[Peelee]

A joke which showcases the other great scone controversy, that being whether it rhymes with stone or gone.

Rhymes with stone, as anyone from Birmingham will tell you.

[Insane Jeenyus]

good morning, its coffee tyme.

[Qwertystop]

Regarding scones: please clarify. American and British scones are fairly different, but I don't think I've ever heard either called "sweet scones". We may be thinking of different things.

[LaZodiac]

Literally the only mental image when I hear the word scone is a croissant and I know that's wrong so I second the "what's actually a sweet scone?" remark.

[factotum]

British scones most often *are* sweet, but you can also get savoury ones--I assume that's why he felt the need to specify he was talking about sweet scones.

[Anonymouswizard]

Rhymes with stone, as anyone from Birmingham will tell you.

This this the Birmingham that's pronounced correctly, or the one in America?

Although I'm still not convinced that Birmingham exists. People who claim to come from there also tend to believe in the Midlands, which as we all know are a hoax.

Regarding scones: please clarify. American and British scones are fairly different, but I don't think I've ever heard either called "sweet scones". We may be thinking of different things.

British scones. Didn't even realise American ones existed, it's like their biscuits (which incidentally are not biscuits, they seem to be more of a knockoff scone).

For British scones there's essentially two types. Sweet scones, generally called scones, are the kind you'll normally see, although as pastries go they're fairly savoury. But they'll sometimes be called sweet scones to differentiate them from cheese scones, which are flavoured with cheese instead of sugar, and unlike sweet scones are not eaten with jam and cream (although butter is great on them).

A lot of people don't realise that cheese scones exist.

You'll also find sweet scones with raisins and the like in them. Unlike your standard sweet scone it is not considered impolite to eat them plain, although most Southerners (can't tell about those Northerners, like those people who live in Birmingham) will tend to have jam and cream anyway if they have it.


On whipped cream: blasphemy! Also I don't have a mixer, and I refuse to whip cream by hand just to try it.

[Thufir]

Scone rhymes with gone. Cream is bleh, just eat all scones with butter, jam optional. I went to Birmingham once with a choir, I'm pretty sure it was a real place. I seem to recall being told that Birmingham is the only self-acknowledged part of the Midlands, everyone else in England having their own differing ideas as to the location of the North/South divide. As I was born in London but subsequently moved to Newcastle (the proper one in the north, not the other one), my own views and allegiances in the North/South line debate are necessarily rather confused.

[Qwertystop]

British scones. Didn't even realise American ones existed, it's like their biscuits (which incidentally are not biscuits, they seem to be more of a knockoff scone).

For British scones there's essentially two types. Sweet scones, generally called scones, are the kind you'll normally see, although as pastries go they're fairly savoury. But they'll sometimes be called sweet scones to differentiate them from cheese scones, which are flavoured with cheese instead of sugar, and unlike sweet scones are not eaten with jam and cream (although butter is great on them).

A lot of people don't realise that cheese scones exist.

You'll also find sweet scones with raisins and the like in them. Unlike your standard sweet scone it is not considered impolite to eat them plain, although most Southerners (can't tell about those Northerners, like those people who live in Birmingham) will tend to have jam and cream anyway if they have it.


On whipped cream: blasphemy! Also I don't have a mixer, and I refuse to whip cream by hand just to try it.

Okay, yeah. Cream and jam, definitely.

Part of my uncertainty was that American scones have more sugar and more fat than British ones (they're denser, traditionally triangular, usually contain quite a bit of fruit or nuts, and are sometimes lightly iced), so I thought that might be what you meant by "sweet scones". In which case you'd be wrong, you don't put anything on those.

Personally, I was taught that American scones rhyme with stone and British ones rhyme with gone, but I'm not sure what portion of Americans would agree with that.

[Peelee]

This this the Birmingham that's pronounced correctly, or the one in America?

Yes.

Although I'm still not convinced that Birmingham exists. People who claim to come from there also tend to believe in the Midlands, which as we all know are a hoax.

Well, their city did once use our city's skyline to encourage civic pride, so....

[Amidus Drexel]

I'm confused. I thought you hated the concept of sweetness, yet you're saying that you eat scones with that property.

You are mistaken - I tend to not prefer overly-sweet things (for example, I usually cut soda with seltzer, when that option is available), but that doesn't mean I won't eat something that's got a little sugar in it.

I don't see why you can't? Heck, I'll eat slices of bread plain if the mood takes me...

I'm in the same boat - a good bread (especially pumpernickel or sourdough) stands on its own, and the same goes for (american) biscuits and other pastries.

Traditionally jam and clotted cream. There's a fierce argument here in the UK over whether you put the jam on first or the cream on first (obviously it's the jam, otherwise you can't spread it without smushing the cream).

(Personally, I am a cream first, then jam man, on the basis that cream is taking the place of butter)

While I don't typically use regular cream on my bread/pastries (which is liquid at room temperature), I do prefer to put cream cheese on first, followed by jam. (It's damn near impossible to spread the cream cheese once you already have jam on there anyway).

A joke which showcases the other great scone controversy, that being whether it rhymes with stone or gone.

Rhymes with stone, as anyone from Birmingham will tell you.

Personally, I was taught that American scones rhyme with stone and British ones rhyme with gone, but I'm not sure what portion of Americans would agree with that.

I'll have to agree with my fellow Americans here - it rhymes with stone.

British scones. Didn't even realise American ones existed, it's like their biscuits (which incidentally are not biscuits, they seem to be more of a knockoff scone).

For British scones there's essentially two types. Sweet scones, generally called scones, are the kind you'll normally see, although as pastries go they're fairly savoury. But they'll sometimes be called sweet scones to differentiate them from cheese scones, which are flavoured with cheese instead of sugar, and unlike sweet scones are not eaten with jam and cream (although butter is great on them).

A lot of people don't realise that cheese scones exist.

You'll also find sweet scones with raisins and the like in them. Unlike your standard sweet scone it is not considered impolite to eat them plain, although most Southerners (can't tell about those Northerners, like those people who live in Birmingham) will tend to have jam and cream anyway if they have it.[/color]

I think a lot of confusion between British and American pastries comes down to us using different words for the same foods. An American cookie and a British cookie are usually the same, except sometimes they're also British biscuits. American biscuits are British scon(e)s, typically with extra butter (and occasionally cheese), while American scones are sweet, crumbly pastries that rarely need anything extra.

Now that we're talking about the same thing - yes, biscuits/scon(e)s are best with jam or butter. (Or, to start another argument, gravy )

[Qwertystop]

While I don't typically use regular cream on my bread/pastries (which is liquid at room temperature), I do prefer to put cream cheese on first, followed by jam. (It's damn near impossible to spread the cream cheese once you already have jam on there anyway).

"Cream" in the context of scones is clotted cream, not liquid.

[Insane Jeenyus]

yummmm .. .. .. biscuits and sausage gravy.

[Aedilred]

Personally, I was taught that American scones rhyme with stone and British ones rhyme with gone, but I'm not sure what portion of Americans would agree with that.

In the UK, it's a regional, and possibly also a class, thing. There seems to be relatively little consistency regarding a north/south divide, but I think in general rhyming with "gone" is more common in the south, and with "cone" more common in the north. Both pronunciations are common, and I think in Scotland they might even call them "scoons".

[Insane Jeenyus]

.. .. .. .. .. Both pronunciations are common, and I think in Scotland they might even call them "scoons".

obviously, the Scotts have it right.

[FinnLassie]

I went to check the Finnish word for scone and I'm disappointe. Just skonssi.

Profiterole/cream puffs however literally translate to wind hat. That's way more amusing.



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[Anonymouswizard]

I think a lot of confusion between British and American pastries comes down to us using different words for the same foods. An American cookie and a British cookie are usually the same, except sometimes they're also British biscuits. American biscuits are British scon(e)s, typically with extra butter (and occasionally cheese), while American scones are sweet, crumbly pastries that rarely need anything extra.

Now that we're talking about the same thing - yes, biscuits/scon(e)s are best with jam or butter. (Or, to start another argument, gravy )

It's not our fault if you lot can't remember what things are called

In all seriousness, unless it's a cookie (those things with chocolate chips in) calling a biscuit a cookie will annoy a Brit. How are we supposed to have biscuits with our tea if you lot keep using the wrong word?

Also, gravy with scones? Gravy's for your roasts and Yorkshire puddings!

[Peelee]

It's not our fault if you lot can't remember what things are called

In all seriousness, unless it's a cookie (those things with chocolate chips in) calling a biscuit a cookie will annoy a Brit. How are we supposed to have biscuits with our tea if you lot keep using the wrong word?

Also, gravy with scones? Gravy's for your roasts and Yorkshire puddings!

Brown gravy, yes. White gravy? That stuff is great on American biscuits.

Also, I hear tell that if you annoy a Brit, they will, in very British fashion, do absolutely nothing.

Also, I'm now sad to think that may not have actually happened. I choose to believe it did.

[factotum]

You mean, when an American talks about biscuits and gravy, they aren't referring to this?

[Peelee]

You mean, when an American talks about biscuits and gravy, they aren't referring to this?

Ah, the fabled British cooking I've heard so much about!

Look, biscuits and gravy, tasty as it is, still isn't as good as chicken fried steak. You don't even need to add "and gravy" to that one, it shouldn't ever come without gravy.