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2018-08-15, 11:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-08-16, 04:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Just a thought, but is it possible that Dimensional Anchor is an undisclosed property of the umbrella? After all, if the Monster has the power of Teleportation (or similar) then Xykon wouldn't want it escaping.
Belay that - we've seek Xykon teleport with the Monster.Last edited by Quartz; 2018-08-16 at 04:18 AM.
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2018-08-16, 04:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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I still don't understand why that was ever a problem. The rule that you have to be familiar with the location is a limitation of the Teleport spell, the one that the Azure City wizard used, (the Word of Recall and Teleport Object spells share this limitation). But the Teleport spell is unsuitable anyway, because it has a range limit of 100 miles, whereas Vaarsuvius and O-Chul were transported to an island near another continent close to the Elven lands. That's an obvious sign that the Teleport spell wasn't used here, instead something better like the Greater Teleport or Wish had to be used. But Greater Teleport or Wish don't require being familiar with the destination.
This is also what really makes Igramul's poison touch attack so attractive to me (not in the sense that I'd like to experience it, but that the MitD could be using something like that), because while we know very little of Igramul (Ygramul), we do know that he gave his victims the ability to teleport both so far that they could never reach it on horse even if they spent decades on the ride, and to a location of which they knew no more than a name. It is clear that Igramul's poison grants a Greater Teleport ability, not a plain teleport. Igramul seems unsuitable as the MitD because of the tower scene, but if another creature (a shapechanger) could use a poison touch attack with a similar ability, that would be a great match. The big problem with the latter idea is that now the solution would involve not just one rare creature, but two rare creatures that would have to exist in the OoTS world: Igramul, and a shapechanger such as a Protean or an Experiment Kraj that can copy his ability. (And a young Experiment Kraj that just about fits under the umbrella isn't strong enough on its own, so it would need to steal the ability of a third creature for the tower scene, so I'd exclude it. I just don't know enough shapechangers.)Last edited by b_jonas; 2018-08-16 at 04:58 AM.
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2018-08-16, 11:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Sure, but 2000 miles is still a heck of a distance. Coast to islands off the coast, an ocean could be that narrow. Or OotS world might be smaller than ours (fairly common in fantasy stories, were authors don't want massive distances slowing down the action by requiring weeks of walking to get from A to B).
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2018-08-16, 11:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Maybe that also accounts for how strong fantasy heroes seem compared to the common folk we know, and how they can frequently leap such great distances, etc. If they live on slightly smaller, hence less massive worlds, the gravity should be slightly less than Earth's 1G. Not enough that people will float around as if they're doing a moonwalk, but enough that they can do Olympic-level feats (while wearing armor and carrying heavy gear) as a routine thing.
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2018-08-16, 11:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Assuming the power used for the escape scene is psychic-based, can we garner any clues from the distance travelled if the power source is psychic (e.g. PSPs expended) rather than arcane? How about the scene where the Monster throws Miko and Windstrider through the tower wall?
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2018-08-18, 08:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-08-18, 08:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Sure! Allow me to submit the first guess:
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2018-08-21, 05:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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In Good Deeds Gone Unpunished, the carbuncle is able to teleport Mr. Scruffy without going along itself. Based on things I've read elsewhere on the forums, it's probably using Dimension Door, which would normally affect the caster like Teleport does (disclaimer that I'm not familiar with DnD and may have misread a source). Does this make Teleport a better explanation for the escape scene?
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2018-08-21, 05:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well, if it is using dimension door, it doesn't change things at all, since we know the caster doesn't have to travel through (see Z pushing V through). If it is teleport, it would be an interesting fact. Unfortunately, I can't for the life of me find a stat block for the carbuncle that includes either spell, so can someone check for me?
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2018-08-21, 05:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-08-21, 05:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, it was Plane Shift.
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2018-08-21, 05:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2018-08-21, 05:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Good grief. To misquote the comic, how many forms of teleportation does a system need?
Fair enough, I got them confused. Since dimension door does seem like a poor man's version of teleport, yes, it would be a strong indication that neither requires the caster to go along. Still, do we know that carbuncles use dimension door and not plane shift?
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2018-08-21, 05:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-08-21, 05:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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d20pfsrd. com/bestiary/monster-listings/magical-beasts/carbuncle/
I can't post proper links yet, but this is the carbuncle that was linked in the GDGU thread, although it looks like it's from Pathfinder.
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2018-08-21, 05:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Unfortunately, not always.
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