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    Another half AP event for dailies? They really don't want me to do Camelot!

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    Extra class:None Hunter Noventa participates in the Holy Grail War of Somalia as the master of Assassin

    The Servants participating in this war are:

    Saber:Artoria Pendragon (Alter)
    Archer:Calamity Jane
    Lancer:Parvati
    Rider:Francis Drake
    Caster:Morgan le Fay
    Assassin:Jing Ke
    Berserker:Cú Chulainn (Alter)
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    I'm the only one with a 3* servant. (I think)
    Keep in mind that rarity doesn't really denote the servant's actual power. Romulus is a three star but an incredibly powerful servant for example.

    ...That said, I think you might be screwed just because of who else is in that war, not because Jing Ke isn't a perfectly acceptable assassin. I mean jeez, Mad Doggo, Salter, Parvati, Morgan le Fay?! Talk about deck stacked against you...maybe if Jing had some bonus against royalty you might be able to pull it off...
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    Saambell participates in the Holy Grail War of Indonesia as the master of Lancer

    The Servants participating in this war are:

    Saber:Diarmuid
    Archer:Arash
    Lancer:Walkure
    Rider:Christopher Colombus
    Caster:Leonardo da Vinci (Lily)
    Assassin:Mata Hari
    Berserker:Thor
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    I can probably handle Mata Hari, maybe Leo and Chris. But Thor is going to roll me.
    Point of order: Walkure (Valkyrie) actually is (are) in FGO, 4-star Lancer, fairly potent. Not to mention they're a compound Servant, like Mary and Anne, which is a bit of a boon.

    More importantly, they're from Thor's background. And as a warrior, he has to yield to their selection. So you have a pretty decent chance, actually.

    Even Arash doesn't pose a major threat - he can nuke one of them, sure, but not all of them.

    Probably.

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    Extra class:None Hunter Noventa participates in the Holy Grail War of Somalia as the master of Assassin

    The Servants participating in this war are:

    Saber:Artoria Pendragon (Alter)
    Archer:Calamity Jane
    Lancer:Parvati
    Rider:Francis Drake
    Caster:Morgan le Fay
    Assassin:Jing Ke
    Berserker:Cú Chulainn (Alter)
    Extra class:None
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    I'm the only one with a 3* servant. (I think)
    Rarity aside, you are indeed boned. The two Alters are pinnacle martial combatants. And Morgan is said to be Merlin's equal - and he was someone who was awarded the title of Grand Caster while still alive.

    Even if you had a truly legendary Assassin, you'd be pretty hosed. But then again, I can't think of a single Grail War that an Assassin ever actually won. They tend more to be spoilers than winners.
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    I think that has to do with the fact that most Assassins are...well not overly impressive. Hundred-Faced Hassan from Zero is the highest ranked Assassin i can think of who was used by a proper master. Jack was coopted by a woman and kept alive via feeding her mage hearts instead of with magical circuits, so that may have screwed her. And i don't count Semiramis because she acts more like a flipping Caster than an Assassin.

    So of the Assasins who actually act like Assassins (that I can name), we have the pair of Hassans and Jack, and two of them had weirdness attached to them during the war. Seriously, what is with Assassin and never getting used normally?
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    Jack actually was rediculously hard to defeat. She got taken down through divine intervention called upon by our dear holy maiden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resileaf View Post
    Another half AP event for dailies? They really don't want me to do Camelot!
    If you're happy to wait to complete Camelot there'll probably be another 1/2 AP story event before/when Babylon is released.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackhawk748 View Post
    I think that has to do with the fact that most Assassins are...well not overly impressive. Hundred-Faced Hassan from Zero is the highest ranked Assassin i can think of who was used by a proper master. Jack was coopted by a woman and kept alive via feeding her mage hearts instead of with magical circuits, so that may have screwed her. And i don't count Semiramis because she acts more like a flipping Caster than an Assassin.

    So of the Assasins who actually act like Assassins (that I can name), we have the pair of Hassans and Jack, and two of them had weirdness attached to them during the war. Seriously, what is with Assassin and never getting used normally?
    More weirdness when Medea used Rule Breaker to summon an Assassin of her own, but he could go one on one with Saber Artoria, so... not exactly weak there.
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    Jack actually was rediculously hard to defeat. She got taken down through divine intervention called upon by our dear holy maiden.
    Wasn't Jack explicitly getting stronger from eating mage hearts? She also never had to face off against a Caster, if class advantage even matters in other media. (Does it? Is there any canon on that?)

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    Rusty participates in the Holy Grail War of Germany as the master of Rider

    The Servants participating in this war are:

    Saber: Nuada
    Archer:Moriarty
    Lancer:Altria
    Rider:Saint Martha
    Caster:Tamamo-no-Mae
    Assassin:Hassan (Serene)
    Berserker:Don't remember - maybe Cu Alter
    Extra class:None

    I mean, I could have worse odds. Not sure how to deal with Nuada, but at least he's kinda obscure and not on home turf.
    Also Martha was my first SR servant, so that's pretty cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Spoon View Post
    Wasn't Jack explicitly getting stronger from eating mage hearts? She also never had to face off against a Caster, if class advantage even matters in other media. (Does it? Is there any canon on that?)
    class affinities are only mentioned in grand order, so it is hard to tell exactly how they play in. outside of the battle mechanics of grand order, class affinity isn't out right said to apply an advantage over another servant. only supposed to affect how classes interact with each other. but again it is only really mentioned in grand order. other than that there is a ranking system that ranks how strong each class is over all without factoring in what servant is filling the class, bond and overall strengthening. but even the classes base stats might vary depending on the details of the holy grail ritual, we only have the stats for the fuyuki war ritual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoPhoenix0 View Post
    class affinities are only mentioned in grand order, so it is hard to tell exactly how they play in. outside of the battle mechanics of grand order, class affinity isn't out right said to apply an advantage over another servant. only supposed to affect how classes interact with each other. but again it is only really mentioned in grand order. other than that there is a ranking system that ranks how strong each class is over all without factoring in what servant is filling the class, bond and overall strengthening. but even the classes base stats might vary depending on the details of the holy grail ritual, we only have the stats for the fuyuki war ritual.
    Class Affinity is only a thing for Grand Order.

    EDIT: Its also important to keep in mind that we do not know the...context behind how one is chosen to be a Grand Servant, only that they have specific requirements and only tend to be chosen from among the strongest servants in a class. For example, Grand Caster requires its vessel to have Clairvoyance EX but that's the only hard requirement that we know about. We don't know the other requirements for the other Grands and I don't even know if we've met more than one Grand Servant.
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    Grandpa Hassan is Grand Assassin and Solomon is Grand Caster, so that's too.

    Also, Kojiro should honestly be a Saber, not an Assassin
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    If there training ground is half AP, should I do all of them instead of just the 10, 30, and 40?

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    Well if you want the green cubes, go right ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HMS Invincible View Post
    If there training ground is half AP, should I do all of them instead of just the 10, 30, and 40?
    That's what I've been doing. Need those green cubes for the eventual really good store CEs after all.

    And speaking of...do the training grounds just, never seem to drop the blue crystals, or do I just have bad luck? Of all things I have a ton of skills I can't level because I don't have the blue crystals to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter Noventa View Post
    That's what I've been doing. Need those green cubes for the eventual really good store CEs after all.

    And speaking of...do the training grounds just, never seem to drop the blue crystals, or do I just have bad luck? Of all things I have a ton of skills I can't level because I don't have the blue crystals to do so.
    https://grandorder.gamepress.gg/item/gem-archer
    Per link, the AP 10 training one gives me the most blue Gems per AP. Strange, but whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HMS Invincible View Post
    https://grandorder.gamepress.gg/item/gem-archer
    Per link, the AP 10 training one gives me the most blue Gems per AP. Strange, but whatever.
    Ah, See I was trying all of them, and I seem to keep getting nothing but red crystals. But I also don't just sit and farm them either.
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    I find that I generally prefer doing 20 AP dailies for my lion's share of gems. Seems to give me the highest total number of gems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resileaf View Post
    I find that I generally prefer doing 20 AP dailies for my lion's share of gems. Seems to give me the highest total number of gems.
    Do the math, and you'll know for sure. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HMS Invincible View Post
    Do the math, and you'll know for sure. ;)
    Psh. Maths is for nerds. I work with feelings and thinking "this kind of looks right"!
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    They changed the training ground drops. Does anybody have a link that shows the new APD for stuff that comes out?

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    Bah. I did a dumb thing.

    Yesterday morning, I was tired, and I approved my Android OS update. So now FGO doesn't work, and there goes my log-in streak. Looks like I'm taking a hiatus from the game for a bit.

    Here's hoping they work this out before the Prillya event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fel View Post
    Bah. I did a dumb thing.

    Yesterday morning, I was tired, and I approved my Android OS update. So now FGO doesn't work, and there goes my log-in streak. Looks like I'm taking a hiatus from the game for a bit.

    Here's hoping they work this out before the Prillya event.
    I saw the warning last month. And when my phone update came up today, I immediately hit no. If I hadn't read that, I would be out of luck too. It sucks that they still haven't patched the problem.

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    Eesh, that sounds pretty damn awful. I'm sorry to hear that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HMS Invincible View Post
    They changed the training ground drops. Does anybody have a link that shows the new APD for stuff that comes out?
    Here you go!

    Its being updated all the time as well, so it will remain valuable in the future as well...we should probably add it to the OP honestly.
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    I have been blessed with the need to grind for an eternity or two to level my servants.

    on the android update issue, i definitely don't have to worry about that since last month i only just got the 7.0 update for my phone. the 9.0 is at least a year or two away if I ever get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fel View Post
    Bah. I did a dumb thing.

    Yesterday morning, I was tired, and I approved my Android OS update. So now FGO doesn't work, and there goes my log-in streak. Looks like I'm taking a hiatus from the game for a bit.

    Here's hoping they work this out before the Prillya event.
    Weird. My Android got tired of asking me and just updated without permission earlier today, and my FGO is working fine. I'm farming caster gems now.

    EDIT: Unless maybe we're talking about different updates.
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    Weird. My Android got tired of asking me and just updated without permission earlier today, and my FGO is working fine. I'm farming caster gems now.

    EDIT: Unless maybe we're talking about different updates.
    Yeah you're likely not getting 9.0 unless you have a google phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter Noventa View Post
    Yeah you're likely not getting 9.0 unless you have a google phone.
    Oh, and it gets worse.

    See, apparently FGO runs on Unity. Well, as of earlier this month, Unity's latest patch notes still did not take into account Android 9.0 compatibility.

    So what you're looking at is (1) Unity getting updated for Android 9.0, and then (2) FGO updating. That may take awhile.

    So, yeah. I'mma probably miss Prillya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fel View Post
    Oh, and it gets worse.

    See, apparently FGO runs on Unity. Well, as of earlier this month, Unity's latest patch notes still did not take into account Android 9.0 compatibility.

    So what you're looking at is (1) Unity getting updated for Android 9.0, and then (2) FGO updating. That may take awhile.

    So, yeah. I'mma probably miss Prillya.

    Don't get the latest update, folks.
    you should see if you can downgrade your phone to a previous version. or maybe if you have a spare older phone that can run fate maybe connect to wifi and transfer to that phone until fate starts working on android 9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fel View Post
    Oh, and it gets worse.

    See, apparently FGO runs on Unity. Well, as of earlier this month, Unity's latest patch notes still did not take into account Android 9.0 compatibility.

    So what you're looking at is (1) Unity getting updated for Android 9.0, and then (2) FGO updating. That may take awhile.

    So, yeah. I'mma probably miss Prillya.

    Don't get the latest update, folks.
    Sorry to hear that Red Fel. :(

    If you can't figure out a work around by the time Illya starts, I could try to run your account through the event for you on my tablet. I'd need your shop goals and everything, but this is a crappy situation to be in.
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    Now you guys are making me nervous because my phone keeps reminding me to update. And it auto downloads whenever the wireless is on.

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