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    But Hel didn't have any special claims on souls that died of disease in the last world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ti'esar View Post
    But Hel didn't have any special claims on souls that died of disease in the last world.
    She doesn't in this world, at least not by those terms. She has special claim on dwarves that die without honor. There's loads of ways to do that without involving disease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ti'esar View Post
    But Hel didn't have any special claims on souls that died of disease in the last world.
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    She doesn't in this world, at least not by those terms. She has special claim on dwarves that die without honor. There's loads of ways to do that without involving disease.
    Diseases fall under Hel's domain, and Hel was talking about Worship in that specific panel, not Souls. People would be attributing every random illness to her and thanking her when it didn't kill them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gift Jeraff View Post
    Northerners living in constant fear of Hel in the previous world makes sense if they had little to no access to magic. Disease would have been a much more serious concern in that world than in the current one.
    Maybe that's why he tricked her: She was getting so powerful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martianmister View Post
    Maybe that's why he tricked her: She was getting so powerful.
    I think she wasn't so much getting too powerful (although given how weak Odin was getting at the same time, I wouldn't completely discard it as a possibility), so much as that she was getting lazy about her clerics. That because everyone automatically worshiped her anyway, she started thinking she didn't need to spend any power on granting spells to clerics. So her daddy thought to teach her the lesson of just how crucial it is to have mortals spreading the word, by arranging her to not have any for an entire cycle (and also screw Thor in the process, because it's not a Loki plan if Thor doesn't get screwed).

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    In Strip 47 Yikyik's Spanish translate as "Hey, I think I failed to notice something!" or alternatively "I think I failed a spot check."

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    Each one of us, alone, is but a drop in the sea
    Our powers pale compared with the great heroes
    Our battles don’t hit theheadlines or shake the earth
    But they are few, can’t be everywhere, and we, many
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    And it makes me realize that it's fully fitting that the arena, despite being a tool to get rid of dissenters, is also meant to have an orderly storyline, as Tarquin would never have it any other way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resileaf View Post
    And it makes me realize that it's fully fitting that the arena, despite being a tool to get rid of dissenters, is also meant to have an orderly storyline, as Tarquin would never have it any other way.
    And Ian and Geoff refuse to participate in it!
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    Evisceratus more closely resembles the stronger gladiator defending the weaker one in #736 to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck View Post
    Evisceratus more closely resembles the stronger gladiator defending the weaker one in #736 to me.
    Yes, that's exactly what I meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D.One View Post
    Yes, that's exactly what I meant.
    Ah, I was confused because the whipmaster references the weaker one being killed in the arena, and Evisceratus was killed. Although it makes sense that Evisceratus would look to avenge his friend against Belkar.

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    Evisceratus also tried to teach Belkar a lesson in jail Before meeting him in the arena. I can see why he was looking forward to the fight.

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    I really feel bad for Evisceratus, because he was actually trying to do the right thing despite being horribly outclassed. That has to count for something.

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    I really feel bad for Evisceratus, because he was actually trying to do the right thing despite being horribly outclassed. That has to count for something.
    At least he'll get a good afterlife.

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    At least he'll get a good afterlife.
    "On the one hand, you died trying to protect the weak. On the other hand, a cat killed you. We've got just the thing for that... around here, we like to call it Hilarious Good."

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    "On the one hand, you died trying to protect the weak. On the other hand, a cat killed you. We've got just the thing for that... around here, we like to call it Hilarious Good."
    *snrk* May I sig that?

    On a more serious note, I wonder what afterlife he *would* go to? NG, CG, or LG? I'm leaning towards the last one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielxcutter View Post
    *snrk* May I sig that?

    On a more serious note, I wonder what afterlife he *would* go to? NG, CG, or LG? I'm leaning towards the last one.
    Yeah, go ahead.

    (We have so little to go on that I have no idea where he'd end up, although I suppose what little we see of him is reasonably Good.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck View Post
    "On the one hand, you died trying to protect the weak. On the other hand, a cat killed you. We've got just the thing for that... around here, we like to call it Hilarious Good."
    Well, dying in a somewhat hilarious way didn't prevented Roy to get into LG afterlife.

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    If he persists and enlighten himself enough, he may become a Hound Archon...
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    I just noticed that the name of the fan Therkla was assigned to steal in HtPGHS... the Ma-Guh-Fin fan when sounded out...

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    I just noticed that the name of the fan Therkla was assigned to steal in HtPGHS... the Ma-Guh-Fin fan when sounded out...
    It's also got the silhouette of Hitchcock on it!
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    I just noticed what was going on with one of the original things someone never noticed on the original thread: Belkar's "marinade"
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    I just noticed that Panel 2 here is almost exactly the same as a panel in Start of Darkness. (At least in the PDF, it's at the bottom of page 40.)

    Something else I noticed, p.43-44: Redcloak describes the Dark One's plan as being thwarted "first by a band of adventurers--" "--and, years later, by an order of paladins native to Azure City." In the panel with the "band of adventurers," Soon is the only member of the Order of the Scribble not present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck View Post
    I just noticed that Panel 2 here is almost exactly the same as a panel in Start of Darkness. (At least in the PDF, it's at the bottom of page 40.)

    Something else I noticed, p.43-44: Redcloak describes the Dark One's plan as being thwarted "first by a band of adventurers--" "--and, years later, by an order of paladins native to Azure City." In the panel with the "band of adventurers," Soon is the only member of the Order of the Scribble not present.
    Is he present in the "paladins" panel?
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    Is he present in the "paladins" panel?
    He is not.

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    He is not.
    Huh. I wonder if there's any real reason for that or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielxcutter View Post
    Huh. I wonder if there's any real reason for that or not.
    No idea-- I wonder if maybe it indicates how they're separate in Redcloak's mind, but he still doesn't know who Soon is, or what.

    Another fun one from Start of Darkness: When Xykon tests out his new Lich voice, the three lines he delivers-- "Luke, I am your father"; "Simba, you have forgotten me"; "This is CNN"-- are all lines by James Earl Jones.

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