Things You Never Noticed VI: The Undiscovered Detail

[Turin_19]

I had never realizes here (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0688.html) that Scruffy senses the worm before anyone else. He starts to get distance in panel 6 and when the worm comes up, he is the farthest from it.

EDIT: also, in the next comic, he is hissing for being put on the worm. So cool!!!

[Aveline]

I just noticed Vampire Durkon trying to use the domination gaze on Durkon. As always, I'm not a D&D player, but this just seems... mechanically wonky.

The evil adventuring party in Celestia felt that way for me too. (Thanks for the lampshade, Roy. )

[danielxcutter]

I just noticed Vampire Durkon trying to use the domination gaze on Durkon. As always, I'm not a D&D player, but this just seems... mechanically wonky.

I'm of the opinion that Durkula was less using his gaze attack and more being positively serious in that part.

The evil adventuring party in Celestia felt that way for me too. (Thanks for the lampshade, Roy. )

That on the other hand is honestly more for the lulz, especially the part where they just so happen to Plane Shift right in the middle of a room with not only one but two deceased mid~high-level fighters and an ancestral greatsword.

[Fyraltari]

I just noticed Vampire Durkon trying to use the domination gaze on Durkon. As always, I'm not a D&D player, but this just seems... mechanically wonky.

I think it just means "uses vampire power to forcefully extract the memory" rather than the Domination gaze in particular. The implication being that Durkon's soul would be in pain until he complies.

[Ruck]

The evil adventuring party in Celestia felt that way for me too. (Thanks for the lampshade, Roy. )

The evil adventuring party is a joke playing on how good adventuring parties will go on quests that take them to lower planes to fight demons and the like.

[Peelee]

If the Mechane can blow Elan's spell because of how quickly it turned while it was handling real sluggish, I shudder to think how well that thing runs under ideal conditions.

[Grey Watcher]

I took me a while to put this one together, and even then I got distracted from posting it until it was sorta past relevance to the current comic's discussion but.....

We get a silly joke about Elan misunderstanding what's meant by "positive energy" and thus trying to defeat the vampires with good feelings, camaraderie, support, caring, and such. And then what does Durkon end up using to defeat his vampiric self?

[Peelee]

I took me a while to put this one together, and even then I got distracted from posting it until it was sorta past relevance to the current comic's discussion but.....

We get a silly joke about Elan misunderstanding what's meant by "positive energy" and thus trying to defeat the vampires with good feelings, camaraderie, support, caring, and such. And then what does Durkon end up using to defeat his vampiric self?

Well dang. That one vamp even says "can't handle having my heart warmed," too.

[Hekko]

That on the other hand is honestly more for the lulz, especially the part where they just so happen to Plane Shift right in the middle of a room with not only one but two deceased mid~high-level fighters and an ancestral greatsword.

Probably game mechanics in play. They are going to plane shift to an encounter that would provide them with a challenge, otherwise it would be boring, wouldn't it? ;)

I think it just means "uses vampire power to forcefully extract the memory" rather than the Domination gaze in particular. The implication being that Durkon's soul would be in pain until he complies.

Ohhh! I just thought he was angry, but this makes so much sense!

If the Mechane can blow Elan's spell because of how quickly it turned while it was handling real sluggish, I shudder to think how well that thing runs under ideal conditions.

Perhaps trying to make it move while handling sluggish results in the ship moving jerkily, while under ideal conditions it would move smoothly? It's not speed that makes Elan "lose" the spell, but rather a sudden violent change, I think.

Also, I realised something I thought was both quite obvious (because I'm slow) but also really good this morning and then forgot what it was by the time I got home...

[Resileaf]

If the Mechane can blow Elan's spell because of how quickly it turned while it was handling real sluggish, I shudder to think how well that thing runs under ideal conditions.

It looks like the ship only has trouble turning starboard. All the turns it's doing quickly are heading to port.

[Peelee]

It looks like the ship only has trouble turning starboard. All the turns it's doing quickly are heading to port.

That's a great point. Makes perfect sense.

[Rogar Demonblud]

Don't forget that there's also quite a bit of slack in the line now, so Elan will swing about more.

[Ruck]

I took me a while to put this one together, and even then I got distracted from posting it until it was sorta past relevance to the current comic's discussion but.....

We get a silly joke about Elan misunderstanding what's meant by "positive energy" and thus trying to defeat the vampires with good feelings, camaraderie, support, caring, and such. And then what does Durkon end up using to defeat his vampiric self?

Hah, and I just remembered that that first strip is a callback to the last time Vaarsuvius was in a battle with lack of Sonic preparedness.

[understatement]

In the strip that kickstarted it all, Elan's hair in the 4th panel is briefly dampened by the rain. By the next panel it's poking out again.

Also, Belkar in 4th panel puts up his hood, but next strip he has it off.

[Peelee]

Sigdi didn't just save the dwarf's life, she saved him from Hel.

[Laze]

Sigdi didn't just save the dwarf's life, she saved him from Hel.

Speaking of small details, what the heck was this dwarf doing?

[Peelee]

Speaking of small details, what the heck was this dwarf doing?

Inspecting the mountain, clearly.

[Fyraltari]

Speaking of small details, what the heck was this dwarf doing?

It looks like there is another level up the ladder he was climbing. He probably was just going from A to B. Should invest in good old fashioned stone stairs, if you ask me.

[Cicciograna]

It looks like there is another level up the ladder he was climbing. He probably was just going from A to B. Should invest in good old fashioned stone stairs, if you ask me.

Maybe he was indeed inspecting the landing for the purpose of hewing the stairs.

[martianmister]

Speaking of small details, what the heck was this dwarf doing?

Accident-looking suicide, so he can left his family a fortune from the insurance company.

[Fyraltari]

Accident-looking suicide, so he can left his family a fortune from the insurance company.

I wonder if that counts as honorable.

[Ornithologist]

I just noticed that when Durkon mutters about the big fight scene coming up in 1116 he isn't refering to the battle about to happen, but the

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memory of his fight with his mom over the money

[Resileaf]

Eric is in the flashback of this strip.

[dmc91356]

Just occurred to me that V's tactical suggestion about Miron in this strip, http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0928.html , might have derived from what V learned from Sabine. I had always gone with the idea that it was about Laurin due to the flashback panel in the Laurin fight later on (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0935.html), but there's no reason to think it was limited like that, and quite a few more reasons to believe it was party-wide intelligence that V was given (in that Sabine also mentioned the ring of true seeing that Tarquin had). Literally just occurred to me out of the blue for no known reason as I wasn't even re-reading those strips.

[D.One]

Just occurred to me that V's tactical suggestion about Miron in this strip, http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0928.html , might have derived from what V learned from Sabine. I had always gone with the idea that it was about Laurin due to the flashback panel in the Laurin fight later on (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0935.html), but there's no reason to think it was limited like that, and quite a few more reasons to believe it was party-wide intelligence that V was given (in that Sabine also mentioned the ring of true seeing that Tarquin had). Literally just occurred to me out of the blue for no known reason as I wasn't even re-reading those strips.

Wow, good catch. Pretty likely.

Eric is in the flashback of this strip.

What's also probably in the flashback is the tale of Horace Greenhilt rescuing the Princess Damsel from the clutches of the Red Dragon of Reddragonsville.

Sigdi didn't just save the dwarf's life, she saved him from Hel.

It's also foreshadowed there that she never let go.

[Riftwolf]

Maybe he was indeed inspecting the landing for the purpose of hewing the stairs.

Judging by the rocks crumbliness, it'd make for a poor staircase.

That and dwarves can't use their stonecunning score to assist with ladder placement. Guessing that's a climb check, or something.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0122.html

Didn't notice in this comic that the apple seller changes into a crop top and short skirt.

[Resileaf]

Somehow, I missed that Tarquin was a reference to Grand Moff Tarkin.
I only realized it today while playing Lego Star Wars. Funny how things happen.

[Aveline]

Somehow, I missed that Tarquin was a reference to Grand Moff Tarkin.
I only realized it today while playing Lego Star Wars. Funny how things happen.

Absent a message from the Giant, I prefer to think it's a reference to the last emperor of Rome, Tarquinius Superbus (who, admittedly, I had never heard of before joining this forum).

Edit: Nice to notice that I hadn't heard of Tarquinius, in opposition to Elan's Dad's goal.

[Peelee]

Absent a message from the Giant, I prefer to think it's a reference to the last emperor of Rome, Tarquinius Superbus (who, admittedly, I had never heard of before joining this forum).

You prefer correctly.

I've never played Knights of the Old Republic. The name was originally going to be Malachi, but I decided at the last minute that I didn't want names that were too closely related to any real-world religion. So I dropped the "hi" and slapped on a "k", which happily gave me a unique name.

And his "friend" Kotor was just random. I picked sounds that sounded like an ancient Conan-type warrior to me.

And thus people will still debate about Tarquin/Tarkin.

Tarquin is named after the king of Rome. It's a different name altogether, there's nothing to debate about.

[Resileaf]

Oh, okay.

Well, I wouldn't be surprised if Tarkin was also named after Tarquinius.