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Thread: The Giant fire-fighting robot
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2019-04-22, 04:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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The Giant fire-fighting robot
Seen in the Washington Post
Originally Posted by Washington Post
Respectfully,
Brian P."Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt is paid."
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2019-04-22, 04:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Giant fire-fighting robot
Do note that steel is roughly 10 times more dense than water or meat. A meat creature weighing half a ton is the size of a cow. A robot of that weight, even including open space, is closer to the size of a man. Or imagine a small city car and remove (not fill up, take off) all the passenger space, that works too.
But yeah, cool, certainly better than most remote controlled toys.Last edited by Lvl 2 Expert; 2019-04-22 at 04:32 PM.
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2019-04-22, 07:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-04-29, 03:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Giant fire-fighting robot
Well, it's obvious why you would want to have a robot instead of men at risk when walking into a burning building.. Sadly most robots still have big problems with stairs which is often an issue but I guess not in Notre Dame. So good on them, and a good chance to Showcase ist abilities.
But... that tiny thing weighs half a ton? How? Did they fill it with lead to make it heavier?
(Also, am I just old or do other people also think of Johnny 5 whenever they see a robot with such a 'face'?)
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2019-04-29, 11:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Giant fire-fighting robot
Most metals are quite dense, and if you do not have a reason to include the voluminous internal cavities required for internal passenger and cargo compartments then something that weighs as much as a car can be quite a bit smaller than one. The density of steel, for example, is about 800 g/cm3 (29 lbs/in3), and so a cube of steel 25cm (~10") on edge weighs about half a metric ton (~500 kg or ~1100 lbs); this is roughly a third as much as an average compact car (~1.5 tons) or not quite three times as much as an average motorcycle (~400 pounds). If you were to create a mold of yourself and then cast a solid steel statue from it, that statue would weigh roughly eight times as much as you do. That'd be in the ballpark of two thirds to three quarters of a ton for an average adult man, or one half to two thirds of a ton for an average adult woman. If you're familiar with the movie Goldfinger, the model of car that was crushed in that film had a curbweight of roughly two and a half to three short tons (5,000 to 6,000 pounds or 2,200 to 2,700 kilograms); how large did the rough cube into which it was crushed appear to be?
Additionally, one of the main ways to make a structure heat resistant is to use heavier structural elements. Heavier structural elements take longer to heat up than do lighter structural elements made of the same materials, which means that the strength of the element when exposed to high temperatures remains closer to its strength in 'normal' conditions longer, and on top of that heavier structural elements are also normally inherently stronger than lighter structural elements, which means that they have to become hotter before the material becomes weak enough for the element to fail (within certain limits; you also have the issue that heavier elements are, well, heavier, and so the structure weighs more, somewhat offsetting the greater strength of the heavier elements by requiring them to support a greater load).Last edited by Aeson; 2019-04-29 at 11:10 AM.
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2019-04-29, 11:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Giant fire-fighting robot
Uhm... No, you're math is wrong. Or I'm really messing up right now.
I guess the (metric) density for steel is a typo, because it's 8.00, not 800 g/ccm. (since you also later say it's about eight times human density) But the mass of a 25x25x25 ccm cube is 125kg (about 250 pounds) and between 500 and 125 there's a big difference. The latter I'm willing to buy, the dimensions do not match but it's not a solid cube.
I kind of buy the argument more mass means more heat capacity but I'm not sure if the probably more vulnerable electronic parts are protected just by having lots of metal in the area.
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2019-04-29, 12:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Giant fire-fighting robot
Uhm... No, you're math is wrong. Or I'm really messing up right now.
I guess the (metric) density for steel is a typo, because it's 8.00, not 800 g/ccm.
I kind of buy the argument more mass means more heat capacity but I'm not sure if the probably more vulnerable electronic parts are protected just by having lots of metal in the area.
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2019-04-29, 12:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-04-29, 12:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Giant fire-fighting robot
Well no, that's a posed publicity photo. Just like pictures of infantry, really--if they're clean, it's fake. If they're working, they're a mess.
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2019-04-29, 01:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Giant fire-fighting robot
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2019-04-29, 02:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Giant fire-fighting robot
Thanks for the vid. That bot really was very useful.
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2019-05-04, 03:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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