OOTS #1162 - The Discussion Thread

[Larre Gannd]

Well, her NAME name, but everyone calls her Squawky. Similar to her brother, Squicky, who never made it through cleric school. I like Tolkienien naming schemes. And yes, I'm going with Tolkienien.

I want this to be true

[Quebbster]

Okay, let's see. From roughly left to right, we have:


Hoskin's wife
Thandro

Kandro, but yes.

Shirra's twins
Durkon's baby cousin (who became a spellcaster, wow)
Squeaky
Dark-skinned bald guy with a crossbow

I Think it may be Logann's father. At hte very least he was dark-skinned and bald too.

Squeaky's apprentice

Janna, yes.

Guy with a lute- possibly another of Squeaky's apprentices

He looks fairly Young to me. Maybe Janna's new apprentice?

Ponytail girl with an axe

Guessing it's Hoskin's daughter, she looks a lot like Hoskin's fiancee at least.

Cousin Logann
Woman with a bun
Shirra
Shirra's husband
Three bearded men with helmets

I'm very curious as to who the family members I didn't recognize from the memories are. Maybe they're kids we didn't meet, especially considering Hoskin got married late, or friends of Durkon's aunts and uncles?

Guesses above.

[factotum]

And if she got her arm Regenerated, her hand would still be down there, and she still would never let go. Regen doesn't take the old matter, it creates new matter.

I'm sure Sigdi wouldn't see it that way. So long as she doesn't have an arm she has a connection to the one she lost under the rockfall. As soon as she gets it regenerated, the arm holding her husband just becomes another jumble of old bones that doesn't have anything to do with her.

[TuringTest]

Wait, did Minrah actually get resurrected off-panel?

I remember her arguing with Durkon in the afterlife about her decision to come back, but not actually see it happen. And going back a few strips, the last we saw of her, she was still besides Thor.

[Peelee]

I'm sure Sigdi wouldn't see it that way. So long as she doesn't have an arm she has a connection to the one she lost under the rockfall. As soon as she gets it regenerated, the arm holding her husband just becomes another jumble of old bones that doesn't have anything to do with her.

If that were true, she could have just said, "Eh, it took Durkon a while to undestand too." Instead, she had an extra line saying "not before this fight, he needs all the help he can get," which fits fine with a pragmatist who has no issue with eventually getting her arm back.

[Cazero]

Weird.
Most dwarves have the exact same pose and that gives me a feeling of copy/paste.
Compare with the hobgoblin charge, where they all have the same face and body type, but the different poses and overall chaos completely suppress that.

[Peelee]

Weird.
Most dwarves have the exact same pose and that gives me a feeling of copy/paste.
Compare with the hobgoblin charge, where they all have the same face and body type, but the different poses and overall chaos completely suppress that.

A lot of those goblins look copy/pasted and oriented slightly differently.

ETA: Conversely, almost none of the dwarves look copy/pasted. Where are you seeing that? The half hidden ones, maybe.

[Yirggzmb]

Wait, did Minrah actually get resurrected off-panel?

I remember her arguing with Durkon in the afterlife about her decision to come back, but not actually see it happen. And going back a few strips, the last we saw of her, she was still besides Thor.

We've had a pretty significant time skip. The last time we saw the Order, they were settling in to rest and recoup, Durkon was claiming his new hammer, and there were still several hours before the meeting was set to begin. So there's been plenty of time for them to resurrect Minrah, among other things.

[Jasdoif]

Similar to her brother, Squicky, who never made it through cleric school.

Got sued by the space dog over the name and couldn't afford the tuition, I'm guessing?

[Cazero]

A lot of those goblins look copy/pasted and oriented slightly differently.

They definitely are, especially those in the background.
Yet the dwarves feel more copypasted because all their legs are oriented the same way.

[Rizzer]

DWARVEN BARDS

That is all.

Funny that they're not playing bagpipes.

[Aaron L]

Beautiful and awesome.

[Peelee]

They definitely are, especially those in the background.
Yet the dwarves feel more copypasted because all their legs are oriented the same way.

Well, they're running, so there's only so many ways to show the legs. Even then, in remarkably similar poses, they have differences (like the curve of an arm being convex and another concave, for instance).

[Breccia]

DWARDS!

Okay, that was a bit lame-ish.

It's better than "BARF!"

Also, what's the opposite of Familicide? Because I think that's what we're looking at here.

[woweedd]

Gondor calls for aid!

[Resileaf]

Always glad to see Hilgya put in her place. Time for Durkon's family to shine!

And hopefully the evil death worm doesn't get a killing spree going.

[Goremplotz]

Good to see Sigdi again. And she is ambiguous to Hilgya as ever

Also, I like Minrah's approach.

[NoHaxJustPi]

Yes. Because +2 to AC or like +5 damage from two hands is better than, say, Holy Word. (oh wait, it isn't)

I’d like to remind you that one-handed weapons are + Str bonus to damage, while two-handed weapons are +1.5*Str bonus to damage. This means that it’s, at best, +1 or +2 to damage.

[woweedd]

Always glad to see Hilgya put in her place. Time for Durkon's real family to shine!

And hopefully the evil death worm doesn't get a killing spree going.

Take heart: dying in battle saving a family member? What Dwarf wouldn't want to go out like that? That's, I imagine, partly why ALL of them came: Even if they die, they'll die swinging. Remember, to a Dwarf, dying at age 350, after a long and happy life, is the worst fate imaginable: The fact that you lived that long is a failure, because it means you never took the risks from which heroism is born.

[SilverCacaobean]

Sigdi! Armed and armored! Yes!
You know, I'm starting to like this fight scene.

She'd better not die heroically, earning her place in Valhalla and giving a last piece of sage advice to Hilgya, in this scene, though...

[Resileaf]

Take heart: dying in battle saving a family member? What Dwarf wouldn't want to go out like that? That's, I imagine, partly why ALL of them came: Even if they die, they'll die swinging. Remember, to a Dwarf, dying at age 350, after a long and happy life, is the worst fate imaginable: The fact that you lived that long is a failure, because it means you never took the risks from which heroism is born.

Eh, pretty sure that a point of the current storyline is that no, living in a society where you're forced to die heroically or you are doomed to an eternity of torment is not actually a good thing.

[DaOldeWolf]

Awesome, the whole family is here!

[Fyraltari]

I really doubt that Sigdi dying heroically would be treated as a good thing. Kandro, however...

[JumboWheat01]

Weird.
Most dwarves have the exact same pose and that gives me a feeling of copy/paste.
Compare with the hobgoblin charge, where they all have the same face and body type, but the different poses and overall chaos completely suppress that.

Makes sense to me. Dwarves as a race lean strongly towards Lawful, with orderly and disciplined upbringings. Dwarves charging in with the same pose shows training that they hold strongly to, even when they're a ragtag band of extended family going to kick butt and probably forget about names.

[CriticalFailure]

Exciting to see Durkon's family arrive; Hilgya and Minrah continue to be some of my secondary character faves.

[Asmodean_]

The best punchlines are wordless.

Also I think we have the new version of how to make Tarquin's omelettes.

[Arkain]

Beautiful. And Sigdi of course still best mom.

[Darth Paul]

So what music would you choose for this part of the strip were it a movie?

"Die Walkure", natch

[woweedd]

Eh, pretty sure that a point of the current storyline is that no, living in a society where you're forced to die heroically or you are doomed to an eternity of torment is not actually a good thing.

Well, yeah, but point is, even if they die, they're going down the way they would have wanted.

[Kaed]

The most interesting parallel to to me is between Sidgi and Hilgya. Both gained fantastic wealth through their own actions and mistakes, at the cost of their own family (granted, one was killed by a cave in fighting a troll, and the other was made destitute by Hilgya's meddling), while pregnant no less.

But whereas Sidgi used her wealth to make herself a new family that has grown into what is practically Clan Thundershield at this point, Hilgya has done nothing with the wealth but enrich herself.

Hilgya is a selfish individual, but we've always known that. The fact that she thinks about herself before anything else is one of her defining character traits. Sure, she's taking care of her son, but even that relationship has a sort of element of possessiveness to it - that's HER son, she's take care of him however she likes, taking him into danger notwithstanding. I'm wondering if, much like Belkar, seeing what she could accomplish if she wasn't such a colossal bitch might start turning her towards a better path. She hasn't spent her fortune yet entirely, she just used a few diamonds so far.