OOTS #1164 - The Discussion Thread

[Peelee]

I’ve cracked it!!

Peelee and Grey Wolf are hanging around the intersection of Main Street and Maple Trail. Both roads lead to Taco Bell. Local taxi driver Loki rolls up and says, “Hey, I got a bet! If more people walk down Main Street than Maple Trail, then Grey Wolf has to buy Peelee a beer. Only catch is, Peelee, you can’t be standing here.”
“Okay,” says Grey Wolf.
“I’ll take that bet! Main Street is the default way to walk to get to Taco Bell. Also, I’m going to shove everyone who walks down Main Street.” says Peelee.

The bet is on!! Grey Wolf hangs around the intersection. Whenever someone walks up, he says, “Don’t go that way. There’s a crazy person who’s shoving people on Main Street. Skinning their knees. Take Maple Trail.”
Occasionally, Loki drives up at that moment and says, “Maple Trail is so long! I’ll give you a lift!” Most people just walk.

Later, Peelee owes Grey Wolf a beer. He’s outraged! “I didn’t think you would tell them how to get to Taco Bell without getting shoved!”

But... he sorta coulda figured it out for himself.

Finally, a perfect analogy! Of course, now I owe GW a beer, but I suppose that's the way it goes sometimes.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

Finally, a perfect analogy! Of course, now I owe GW a beer, but I suppose that's the way it goes sometimes.

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I don't drink alcohol. So you're going to owe me that beer for quite some time, I'm afraid.

Grey Wolf

[Peelee]

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I don't drink alcohol. So you're going to owe me that beer for quite some time, I'm afraid.

Grey Wolf

Dammit, I only drink a couple times a year and it's never beer when I do. So now what am I supposed to do with this beer?

[dmc91356]

Perhaps it is a non-alcoholic beer? (I think little of them, but people I know like them, so there's that.)

[Doug Lampert]

Dammit, I only drink a couple times a year and it's never beer when I do. So now what am I supposed to do with this beer?

Is it low in hops? I'll drink beer if it isn't particularly hoppy.

My own belief is that most people who "don't like beer" actually don't like the taste of hops.

BTW: Does anyone else find it hilarious when people advertise beer as having "no preservatives" when it has hops. One guess as to WHY hops was historically added to beer.

[Peelee]

Is it low in hops? I'll drink beer if it isn't particularly hoppy.

Sure? I don't really have a beer, so it can be as hoppy or not as you like.

[Rogar Demonblud]

Obviously, the proper course of action is to pour the beer out as a thank-offering to the Gods of Gaming for all the many hours of fun you've had. Or I guess that GW has had, since it's his beer.

[Fyraltari]

Except that the simplest way for Thor to stop the terrible thing from happening would be to simply not agree to the bet, which doesn't require any deception at all.

My headcanon is still that Thor was too drunk at the time to understand what he agreed upon.
And that it's not been possible to undo it since then.

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I don't drink alcohol. So you're going to owe me that beer for quite some time, I'm afraid.

Grey Wolf

Rootbeer, then? I think that's not alcohol.

[zimmerwald1915]

Rootbeer, then? I think that's not alcohol.

It isn't, but refined sugar and carbonic acid are quite bad enough.

[Peelee]

It isn't, but refined sugar and carbonic acid are quite bad enough.

Indeed, I like my sugar quite vulgar.

[Wizard_Lizard]

Obviously, the proper course of action is to pour the beer out as a thank-offering to the Gods of Gaming for all the many hours of fun you've had. Or I guess that GW has had, since it's his beer.

Yes, but to which god?

[Peelee]

Yes, but to which god?

The ones of Gaming.

[Wizard_Lizard]

The ones of Gaming.

so... Is it Nike the greek goddess of victory
Ares god of war
Loki, because he plays games with peoples minds
Athena goddess of strategy
(or any of the greek gods roman equivalents.

[Jasdoif]

Rootbeer, then? I think that's not alcohol.

Or ginger beer, which normally isn't alcoholic these days.

[Dion]

Yes, but to which god?

I usually pour out a root beer for Banjo.

[Wizard_Lizard]

Or ginger beer, which normally isn't alcoholic these days.

ginger beer used to be alcoholic?

[jwhouk]

True - but I suppose Ironwood or stone armor is stretching credibility...

Yes, since it's actually a tree. I should know.

[Jasdoif]

ginger beer used to be alcoholic?

Yes; it's a few centuries old at this point. As I understand, it isn't impossible to find such alcoholic ginger beer today, but the non-alcoholic carbonated variety is ubiquitous.

[Ironsmith]

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I don't drink alcohol. So you're going to owe me that beer for quite some time, I'm afraid.

Grey Wolf

And here I thought I was the only one! ...Minus my siblings, at any rate.

[jokem]

Obviously, the proper course of action is to pour the beer out as a thank-offering to the Gods of Gaming for all the many hours of fun you've had. Or I guess that GW has had, since it's his beer.

No, pour the beer into my mouth to greatly enhance my gaming experience.
That is the only appropriate action...

[lio45]

My comment was in response to Resileaf saying "I don’t think it matters" with regards to whether or not Thor intended decpetion - so I was basically arguing that IF Thor was intending deception, THEN he did something morally wrong.

I'm going to side with Dion on this - if you're "tricking" the Bad Guys into agreeing to something that's advantageous for the Good Guys, that's not morally wrong. (And possibly even morally justified™.)

[WolvesbaneIII]

My headcanon is still that Thor was too drunk at the time to understand what he agreed upon.
And that it's not been possible to undo it since then.


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This got me thinking that this might have been a test by loki to see who was the better strategist between thor and hel.

One was a drunkard, the other was a petty god who couldn't see the long term implications of a new world.

Who was better at collecting souls? Perhaps ironically enough, the drunk got his act together and raised the dwarves to be super honorable for like 99% of them, while hel got a small amount of them, due to lacking the insight to forsee that thor could use the legal means that gods have to recruit/save them.

Also, if hel does succeed, will she become an honorable god in the next world? odin changed due to implications of the last world. What other gods have changed in the time span between worlds?

I like that there are certain implications that might have made certain gods different over time based on who was in their part of the afterlife in their jurisdiction.

Plus it does seem to confirm hel is a poor long term strategist.

[MartianInvader]

Now all I can think about is what it takes to get a God drunk. Surely it's not mortal beer. I bet it's some kind of super-divine, super-alcoholic ambrosia-laced ginger beer.

[Ironsmith]

Now all I can think about is what it takes to get a God drunk. Surely it's not mortal beer. I bet it's done kind of super-divine, super-alcoholic ambrosia-laced ginger beer.

A pan-galactic gargle blaster, of course. (He does frequent Milliway's, after all...)

[Wizard_Lizard]

A pan-galactic gargle blaster, of course. (He does frequent Milliway's, after all...)

I would just like to have it stated that I got that reference

[MartianInvader]

I would just like to have it stated that I got that reference

That's Captain America, not Thor.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

"Minimally plausible"? Hold on there, Banana Moneybags, I can't afford minimally plausible, I'm going for over-the-top ridiculous! Besides, there's already been a notable MT already, and I doubt the Giant has the urge to put in another.

You know, I didn't really need the extra push, but this pun is enough for me to officially support whatever your theory of Gontor's abilities happens to be.

[Wizard_Lizard]

That's Captain America, not Thor.

confuzzled?

[Ruck]

Is it low in hops? I'll drink beer if it isn't particularly hoppy.

My own belief is that most people who "don't like beer" actually don't like the taste of hops.

BTW: Does anyone else find it hilarious when people advertise beer as having "no preservatives" when it has hops. One guess as to WHY hops was historically added to beer.

I don't really understand the whole push for IPAs in the craft beer movement. I like my beer crisp and clean, not fit for a transcontinental voyage.

Now all I can think about is what it takes to get a God drunk. Surely it's not mortal beer. I bet it's some kind of super-divine, super-alcoholic ambrosia-laced ginger beer.

Whatever they serve in Valhalla, I reckon.

That's Captain America, not Thor.

I thought it was Galaxy Quest.

[Goblin_Priest]

Is it low in hops? I'll drink beer if it isn't particularly hoppy.

My own belief is that most people who "don't like beer" actually don't like the taste of hops.

BTW: Does anyone else find it hilarious when people advertise beer as having "no preservatives" when it has hops. One guess as to WHY hops was historically added to beer.

Corollary, I think a lot of people that "don't like hops" just don't like the handful of super-citrous that basically every single craft brewery abuses of. Seems like at least half of all IPAs now contain Citra. Add in the next 3 most popular similar hops, and that's probably well over 95% of IPAs.

I love hops, hate Citra.