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2019-06-26, 11:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
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2019-06-26, 11:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
Hey I actually notice in this forum when people multi-quote from other people it usually indicates an argument.
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2019-06-26, 12:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
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2019-06-26, 03:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
We have a separate network for actual military secrets, but those are mostly just secrets we designed ourselves, or exact specifications for things we were contracted to make. Militaries tend to be rightfully apprehensive about sharing the secrets they create themselves, even if it can be somewhat frustrating when we ask for actual use cases and get none.
And old bunkers are quite priced as data centres, since they're easy to maintain a stable climate in. An old complex outside of town long served as a newspaper and magazine (heh) archive for the university library for many years, but was recently sold off to some company that made a server hall out of it.
Well, people tend to chop up other's posts when they want to make it clear what different parts they're addressing. This of course happens during arguments, where it's hard to look convincing if you quote a giant wall of text and respond with a giant wall of text, but also in longer conversations in here where a single paragraph may spawn two paragraphs of response, but much more seldom none. It used to be much more frequent in the past, when most Banterites were high school or college students with lots of free time at hand. And there simply were more of us.Clouddreamer Teddy by me, high above the world, far beyond its matters...
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2019-06-26, 03:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
Good grief, Teddy, you now remind me of the wall-of-text monstrosities from the past... I do not have the patience to quote the same way I used to 5-6 years ago, indeed.
Originally Posted by LaZodiac
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2019-06-26, 04:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
On the other hand color feels too short, like it can't fully describe an essential part of life (eh, unless you're completely colourblind?)
Although there is only one spelling that is complete, utterly, and always 100% wrong. Which is when people talk about Light Amplification by Ztimulated Emission of Radiation.
I don't know what you're referring to.....
In all seriousness, yeah it's a technique to make it clear which part of a post I'm replying to. It's why I chopped up our nondecietful infernally heritaged poster's post at the beginning of mine, I was only replying to one line and wanted to make that as clear as possible (even if 95% of people reading my reply would immediately get that anyway).
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2019-06-26, 06:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
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2019-06-26, 06:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
I think that's a good practice, especially when one is responding to a post just above your post, though it's good to have a quote to avoid confusing readers as to what you're responding to (in case you're shadow monk'd).
But I also think bluetext to indicate sarcasm IS AN ABOMINATION that I would never use, and if I was SO VILE as to wish to FLAUNT THE SIN!!! of committing sarcasm I'd POSSIBLY use a different method of indicating my CRIME OF AN ACT OF!!! sarcasm, were I SO DASTARDLY!!! Also, doing colo(u)rs on my phone is more of a hassle than ALL CAPS AND EXPLAMATION POINTS!!!, so mountain of salt.
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2019-06-26, 06:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
This is an extremely relate-able mood. Even more so given like, 70% of the time these huge huge wall of text, actually hitting the text cap monsters, were from people talking about stuff I had zero interest in, with people who I had less than zero interest in.
Y'all remember how it took you guys (no one who is currently active on the forum, honestly, just bringing up old memories) like a week and a half to bother explaining what The Stig was in a way that didn't just make me feel like a stupid loser?
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2019-06-26, 06:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
I tend to work on the idea of maximum clarity anyway, and so the splitting/trimming posts bit comes from that (it's why I'll almost always quote when giving a direct reply, the alternative is I may use @[user] if I'm replying more generally).
This partially comes from school English lessons. All the way through primary school I loved English, but was put in the bottom group for it because none of the teachers had any idea about how to interpret my writing. As in I'm fairly certain my year 4 teacher would have given me a 2c* if they'd thought they could get away with it. It all boiled down to 'I don't understand it, therefore it must be wrong', despite the fact that for the years where reading age was measured I was in the highest value they allowed. So for reading I was ranked highly, for maths I was ranked highly, and so on, but my English grades suffered because of it.
When I went to secondary school I ended up going to the largest comprehensive school nearby (unlike my siblings who all attended grammar schools in the next county over). This school, by virtue of serving about half the surrounding villages and having an attached special education unit was very experienced with dealing with High Functioning Autistic pupils, and almost immediately my grades in English were raised to slightly below average.I got my diagnosis at the end of year eight, where my grades jumped up a couple of letters again as the teachers knew exactly what to look for, and the entirity of year nine the idea of clarity in written was driven into me during my personal advice, unlike some of my classmates still getting advice on technique (in fact I had practically no problems grasping PQC, unlike some of my classmates). By the time year nine ended I was selected as one of the students to make up the top group for English (consisting of about one in five pupils), as well as for maths and science. To be honest I was shocked, I still based my ideas about my proficiency from all those 3s I'd gotten back in year 4.
I went on to pull out solid Bs in both my English Literature and Language GCSEs, as well as a C in my English Literature A-level (roughly equivalent to a C in first year college in the US if I've remembered correctly), and I'm fairly certain that one of my teachers for GCSE and A-level was disappointed when I went on to do Engineering instead of Literary Criticism.
Well that was a bit of a ramble. But in short, learning to write for maximum clarity made a shocking difference to my academic career (the ability to write efficiently and fairly legibly in script also did, those who had stuck to print in their handwriting couldn't keep up with exams).
Actually, that bugs me, why is the tendency to write in script/cursive getting so rare? A lot of the people I've met who haven't gone to university, and even a minority who have, tend to write in print or block capitals and struggle to write legible script. I really don't think it's got anything to do with the rise of computers, in my experience when you're my age high computer literacy and ability to write script go hand in hand.
*I don't know if this system is still used, but up until year 9 the grading system I was used to was a number followed by an a, b, or c. Higher numbers were higher grades, and within a number a was higher than b which was higher than c. I think the idea was that for the average student your grade was roughly equal to your year, but it's been over a decade since I had to care.
But I also think bluetext to indicate sarcasm IS AN ABOMINATION that I would never use, and if I was SO VILE as to wish to FLAUNT THE SIN!!! of committing sarcasm I'd POSSIBLY use a different method of indicating my CRIME OF AN ACT OF!!! sarcasm, were I SO DASTARDLY!!! Also, doing colo(u)rs on my phone is more of a hassle than ALL CAPS AND EXPLAMATION POINTS!!!, so mountain of salt.
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2019-06-26, 07:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
I feel like, at least for my area, it was deemed less important for the curriculum. Heck, my one year of it being taught- 3rd grade - my teacher was entirely inept at doing it. We did things letter by letter... but it was so abysmally paced, that we were doing the last 4 letters of the alphabet on the last day of class. Certainly wasn't taught properly.
The only reason I can do any cursive at all (not at all beautifully, however), is because my mom forced me to write several paragraphs of the stuff every day that summer. By the time I got to 6th grade, the majority of the class couldn't even read it.
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2019-06-26, 07:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
Ouch, that is terrible.
My school had an interesting system. When you began you could only use pencils, and you learnt to write print with them. Then in I think year 3 (might have been year 2) we were taught to write in script, with the basics taught in one lession. Then just handwriting practice every week until by year 5 everybody could write in script. Plus you could use a pen in everything but your maths book once you've mastered script, and boy did I hate sharpening my pencil (these days I only use mechanical pencils).
The annoying thing is, once you're competent in script it becomes significantly faster not only to write in it but also to read it. It's stupid, but by year 7/8 I'd started to lose the ability to read print, because I exclusively write in script, and these days writing in print is a real effort for me because I've been writing script almost exclusively for 15 years. Despite being one of the slowest in the class to actually master script my handwriting is now relatively clear.
And I'm now remembering my old gaming groups, and the trends with people's wirting. Those who wrote in script invariably had neater character sheets, with the exception of dyslexic players, and one person left so much space between their print letters that it got hard to tell when words stopped.
Maybe I'll upload an example of my handwriting for you all to laugh at in revenge for me disparaging others'.
On an unfrelated note, felt tip pens make the worst sound in the world.
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2019-06-26, 08:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
Not at all! An argument is just a disagreement. The most important thing during an argument is to stay civil and address what you think is wrong with what the other person is saying. It's only when you stop being respectful, or stop trying to answer the other persons points that the argument starts to break down. But as long as both sides engage each other honestly and make an effort to understand the other person, there's nothing at all wrong with argument. Arguing can even help you grow as a person, because nobody is right all the time.
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2019-06-26, 09:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
I use braces (also known as "curly brackets") to indicate sarcasm. If there are none present, I probably believe what I am saying; should it turn out to be inaccurate trivia, please tell me rather than trying to play along with an apparent joke I don't know I'm making.
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2019-06-26, 09:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-26, 09:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-26, 09:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
Now I know how adventurers in RPG feels about it:
Barbarian: I say we kill the monster.
Cleric: No I say we reason with the monster and be civil.
Rogue: I agree with the Barbarian, we should kill it.
Wizard: I agree with the Cleric we should reason with it.
*Everybody is arguing about this situation.*
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2019-06-26, 09:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
I use braces (also known as "curly brackets") to indicate sarcasm. If there are none present, I probably believe what I am saying; should it turn out to be inaccurate trivia, please tell me rather than trying to play along with an apparent joke I don't know I'm making.
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2019-06-26, 09:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
Imean, to be fair here, if the smartest and wisest party members are wanting talk to it, they may be onto something.
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2019-06-26, 09:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
Huh. What state are you from? This is pretty much what I would say, in that an argument doesn't have to be heated, just two people trying to convince the other?
But in most systems, the smartest and the wisest character aren't usually the same person. And never agree on anything. Unless its sending in the meat shield or trapmonkey in first.For all of your completely and utterly honest needs. Zaydos made, Tiefling approved.
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2019-06-26, 09:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-26, 09:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
Number of times Roland St. Jude has sworn revenge upon me: 2
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2019-06-26, 10:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-26, 10:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-26, 10:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
...The wizard NOT burning everything down or trying to plunder every corpse (even if it's not dead yet) for material components!? What sort of wizard is that, a wannabe-BARD!?
If you are from an area near Portland, I think you technically count as living in the Bay Area given all of the people who move there.For all of your completely and utterly honest needs. Zaydos made, Tiefling approved.
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2019-06-26, 10:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-26, 10:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-06-27, 12:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
true, that.
You are right, I just liked the sound of the saying.
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2019-06-27, 12:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
I write the word "minimum" intelligibly, like a normal person.
EDIT: Wait, it was calligraphy where that's confusing, not cursive. Never mind.Last edited by enderlord99; 2019-06-27 at 12:55 AM.
I use braces (also known as "curly brackets") to indicate sarcasm. If there are none present, I probably believe what I am saying; should it turn out to be inaccurate trivia, please tell me rather than trying to play along with an apparent joke I don't know I'm making.
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2019-06-27, 01:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222
I know exactly enough cursive to sign my name in it's various permutations and have excised all other knowledge related to it from my brain because it is functionally useless in every single way other than that one particular use-case of signing my name on legal docs.