Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222

[Anonymouswizard]

Are genderless considered to be non-binary?

While I'm certainly no expert, yes agender would be considered non binary, and yes I'm still trying to work out an actually usable agender/agenda pun.

I have a lor of issues with gender, it took a good friend joking about making me trans for me to finally put all the pieces of my gender identity together. Although my family seems to have a trend towards being QUILTBAG in some way anyway.

The bit that confuses me is 'two spirit'. Like I've had it explained to me, and I don't have the slightest clue how that isn't bigender.

[LaZodiac]

While I'm certainly no expert, yes agender would be considered non binary, and yes I'm still trying to work out an actually usable agender/agenda pun.

I have a lor of issues with gender, it took a good friend joking about making me trans for me to finally put all the pieces of my gender identity together. Although my family seems to have a trend towards being QUILTBAG in some way anyway.

The bit that confuses me is 'two spirit'. Like I've had it explained to me, and I don't have the slightest clue how that isn't bigender.

Because it's kinda inherently a cultural thing. This is literally the first time I've heard it mentioned outside of Canada. It's more a native american thing that is functionally related to LGBTA topics.

It's sort of genderfluidism mixed with the realization that all roles in society are meaningless. That man is capable of doing the man thing, but prefers the woman thing. It speaks to how he has "two spirits" and thus embodies both, and today he's feeling more masculine, thus the pronouns used, but with a more spiritual bent.

I'm not First Nations so I'm not really at liberty to talk of it more than this. It's not my thing.

[Anonymouswizard]

Because it's kinda inherently a cultural thing. This is literally the first time I've heard it mentioned outside of Canada. It's more a native american thing that is functionally related to LGBTA topics.

It's sort of genderfluidism mixed with the realization that all roles in society are meaningless. That man is capable of doing the man thing, but prefers the woman thing. It speaks to how he has "two spirits" and thus embodies both, and today he's feeling more masculine, thus the pronouns used, but with a more spiritual bent.

I'm not First Nations so I'm not really at liberty to talk of it more than this. It's not my thing.

Anybody smell cultural appropriation? (Seriously, all the uses I've seen have been from white people.)

Anyway, I feel like having that most English of dishes, apple pie.

[LaZodiac]

Indigenous people can look white.

I actually really like apple pie, with cinnamon. It's pretty good.

[HalfTangible]

Indigenous people can look white.

I actually really like apple pie, with cinnamon. It's pretty good.

My family is white. My little brother, otoh, is so tan that people think he's Mexican. His soccer coach first greeted him in Spanish (although in the coach's defense, bro was the only person on that team who wasn't Hispanic).

[Anonymouswizard]

I'm Celtic/Germanic, and people don't great me in either Gaelic or German. I mean, they great me in German when I'm in Germany, but not at home. Why would being of Spanish decent change that*?

Although to be fair, I think I have last thousand years ancestry from the Mediterranean as well, seeing as I've got that lovely combination of pale olive skin (which looks really lovely once tanned, but requires me to avoid sunburn like it's bread).

* yeah yeah, I do know the rough actual reason and why we can't go into it.

[Tvtyrant]

My mother's side has a lot of native american (grandma half, grandpa 1/4.) To the point where her, her parents and her brother all turn gold-brown in the sun.

My father is of nearly pure Scots-irish heritage, my siblings and I are pale freckled red heads.

My aunt (uncle's ex) is Italian. My cousin's are blonde, blue eyes, and have naturally gold-red skin. I went on a walk with the older one where she went without subscreen and was fine, I burnt through my spf 50 and a wide brimmed hat.

[HalfTangible]

I'm Celtic/Germanic, and people don't great me in either Gaelic or German. I mean, they great me in German when I'm in Germany, but not at home. Why would being of Spanish decent change that*?

I live in the Houston area. If you run into someone of Hispanic descent down here there's a pretty good chance they know Spanish.

(Also he was the only person on the team who didn't speak it fluently)

[LaZodiac]

What the **** does any of this have to do with what I said?

Anyway there's a pretty big chance me and Blue will never get back together again and I'm just... ****ing unbelievably surly and angry and upset right now.

[DataNinja]

Anyway there's a pretty big chance me and Blue will never get back together again and I'm just... ****ing unbelievably surly and angry and upset right now.

I understand. I really do, even if not in that specific context. When you're close to a person, and it's a cause of joy, and friendship... and then it all falls apart. It hurts. It's not fun. And trying to force things to try and work often just leads to more pain. I've spent more nights than I'd care to admit just curled up into a ball under my covers, a virtual knife twisting in my gut. ...the saying is far more accurate than I'd ever been able to imagine before those points.

Sometimes it ends up working out. Sometimes it doesn't. I've just learned that trying to force things doesn't help... and trying while hurting always just makes things worse. It's not a fun feeling or piece of knowledge to have. Because I do know. Wanting to have what was lost, it's normal. And dealing with that is never easy, even if things eventually work out.

I sincerely hope that you manage to get to a spot where you can feel better about things. But I know that it's never a fun or easy journey getting there.

[HalfTangible]

What the **** does any of this have to do with what I said?

*shrug* You brought up that indigenous people can look white, bro looking like a Mexican occurred to me and I thought it was an amusing connection. Apparently not.

Anyway there's a pretty big chance me and Blue will never get back together again and I'm just... ****ing unbelievably surly and angry and upset right now.

Take your time, Zodi

[Insane Jeenyus]

LaZodiac, If you need this it is yours:

--**Hug**--

[LaZodiac]

Thank you, everyone.

[FinnLassie]

I've remembered that a few random banter threads ago. Now that I've been using Grammarly more than six months ago.

It's honestly been nice to see how you've improved both in writing and your attitude, if I may say so. I think you have matured A LOT since you came to GitP and I'm proud of you!

[Bartmanhomer]

It's honestly been nice to see how you've improved both in writing and your attitude, if I may say so. I think you have matured A LOT since you came to GitP and I'm proud of you!

Yes. I was very trollish and immature back then. For anybody who knows me very well you all remember my antics back in the day. Ah good times.

[Anonymouswizard]

*hugs@Zodi* sorry, it took me a while to decipher what happened.


Anyway, I'm currently suffering from a major self esteem hit, after a company contacted me about a graduate scheme and then dropped me as soon as they discovered I had a third. Like I enjoy filling out application forms it doesn't help that when I'm on Facebook these days half the posts I see are of friends being happy in relationships, and I have far too many hangups and insecurities there. I literally broke down crying over it near the end of my shift today, I think I might need professional help with it.

I just feel worthless and undesirable so much these days, especially being told by company representatives 'you have a great CV, but we can't hire you for XYZ' or having a reminder that I'm not in a relationship come up. There are times when I can joke about it and make myself feel better, but also times when it makes me break down. It's just so hard to get help because the NHS is busy dealing with the people with life threatening mental health problems.

[LaZodiac]

Thanks wizard. You can pull through this too, I know you can.

[Algeh]

I am beginning to suspect that my coping skills are made out of coconut oil, because just like coconut oil they get all melty when it's above about 80 degrees in my house.

[Comrade]

Anyway, I'm currently suffering from a major self esteem hit, after a company contacted me about a graduate scheme and then dropped me as soon as they discovered I had a third. Like I enjoy filling out application forms it doesn't help that when I'm on Facebook these days half the posts I see are of friends being happy in relationships, and I have far too many hangups and insecurities there. I literally broke down crying over it near the end of my shift today, I think I might need professional help with it.

I just feel worthless and undesirable so much these days, especially being told by company representatives 'you have a great CV, but we can't hire you for XYZ' or having a reminder that I'm not in a relationship come up. There are times when I can joke about it and make myself feel better, but also times when it makes me break down. It's just so hard to get help because the NHS is busy dealing with the people with life threatening mental health problems.

I don't know the darnedest thing about the NHS so I can't offer any kind of advice where that's concerned, but if you feel you might need professional help, I hope you're able to get it. Or that the circumstances causing you to feel the need for professional help vanish overnight. Seems like that might be the more convenient turn of events.

I have a phone interview for a job tomorrow morning. Wish me luck, y'all, 'cause I sure as hell need it.

[HalfTangible]

Times like this I wish I'd ever dated anyone so I knew how to help.

[Tvtyrant]

*hugs@Zodi* sorry, it took me a while to decipher what happened.


Anyway, I'm currently suffering from a major self esteem hit, after a company contacted me about a graduate scheme and then dropped me as soon as they discovered I had a third. Like I enjoy filling out application forms it doesn't help that when I'm on Facebook these days half the posts I see are of friends being happy in relationships, and I have far too many hangups and insecurities there. I literally broke down crying over it near the end of my shift today, I think I might need professional help with it.

I just feel worthless and undesirable so much these days, especially being told by company representatives 'you have a great CV, but we can't hire you for XYZ' or having a reminder that I'm not in a relationship come up. There are times when I can joke about it and make myself feel better, but also times when it makes me break down. It's just so hard to get help because the NHS is busy dealing with the people with life threatening mental health problems.

I'm sorry you are going through that. I have personally found that investing my self esteem in other activities has helped a lot, like training for a race or setting some difficult goal that doesn't require someone else's appreciation.

Anyway there's a pretty big chance me and Blue will never get back together again and I'm just... ****ing unbelievably surly and angry and upset right now.

I think that is the healthy way to feel after a breakup. It should require grief and anger, like recovering from a death it is necessary work.

I don't know the darnedest thing about the NHS so I can't offer any kind of advice where that's concerned, but if you feel you might need professional help, I hope you're able to get it. Or that the circumstances causing you to feel the need for professional help vanish overnight. Seems like that might be the more convenient turn of events.

I have a phone interview for a job tomorrow morning. Wish me luck, y'all, 'cause I sure as hell need it.

Good luck Comrade!

[LaZodiac]

We broke up a few months ago but it was lingering on my mind a lot, and last night we had a heavy conversation about it and I broke down. I'm better now, and there IS still hope, don't worry. I'm just... tempered, now, I guess.

Also I have spent ike 110 hours on Final Fantasy XIV as a result of this. Oops. Should really be editing my novel...

[enderlord99]

We broke up a few months ago but it was lingering on my mind a lot, and last night we had a heavy conversation about it and I broke down. I'm better now, and there IS still hope, don't worry. I'm just... tempered, now, I guess.

Also I have spent ike 110 hours on Final Fantasy XIV as a result of this. Oops. Should really be editing my novel...

I'm also procrastinating your novel, just "reading and reviewing" instead of "Writing and editing."

You can probably tell from the lack of emails.

[FinnLassie]

Well hello there birthday, it's very nice to spend this lovely day utterly and completely voiceless with a possible fever.

[LaZodiac]

I'm also procrastinating your novel, just "reading and reviewing" instead of "Writing and editing."

You can probably tell from the lack of emails.

That's a fair point

Well hello there birthday, it's very nice to spend this lovely day utterly and completely voiceless with a possible fever.

Happy birthday! Feel better soon!!

[darkrose50]

I am 99.8% European, and 0.2% Chinese (likely from the Russian side). Although for some odd reason evidently the Finnish (or the ones who ride reindeer?) sometimes test as Chinese, so evidently that is also an and/or possibility.

I like to joke with folks that I get mooned-burned. I catch fire in the sun. I burn like an Irishman (likely from the Irish side). I often stop in shaded places, and find it annoying that groups of folks that I am with like to stop in the sunlight.

One of my sisters tans well. She must have gotten that from the Italian side.

My wife was really pissed off to find out that she had a high amount of Neanderthal in her.

Edit: Now the 23andme program says that I am 100% European. It changed its mind.

[LaZodiac]

Genetic DNA testing is almost entirely arbitrary and so much guess work that it's almost completely inaccurate.

[Tvtyrant]

Well hello there birthday, it's very nice to spend this lovely day utterly and completely voiceless with a possible fever.

Ouch, sorry lassie. Happy birthday, hope it comes together for you!

[Teddy]

Well hello there birthday, it's very nice to spend this lovely day utterly and completely voiceless with a possible fever.

Oh dear. I hope you'll get better soon and that birthday joy won't skip over finding you even if it has to be on a later day!

My wife was really pissed off to find out that she had a high amount of Neanderthal in her.

How so? The cartoon stereotype of Neanderthals as stupid has practically no scientific backing...

I'm pretty sure I've got a tiny percentage of Neanderthal DNA, because I live in the right part of the world and has a hard knob at the back of my skull which allegedly traces back to the Neanderthals, and I actually find it pretty thrilling to learn that their lineage didn't go completely extinct.

ION:
After a whole day of repeatedly diving into the water and swimming around with more or less symbolic pauses up at land is exhausting. Now everyone just sits around in complete silence, too tired to do anything productive or even find anything to talk about.

[DataNinja]

I'm also procrastinating your novel, just "reading and reviewing" instead of "Writing and editing."

You can probably tell from the lack of emails.

Just pick a day, and work through even a single chapter. It's a lot easier to put off if you don't pick a set schedule to do it on.

Well hello there birthday, it's very nice to spend this lovely day utterly and completely voiceless with a possible fever.

Oh no! That absolutely sucks, Finn. I've had a birthday like that, before, all ill. I hope you get better swiftly.
(I also hope that, at the very least, you get saved some of your cake... My family refused to do that before.)