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2019-07-13, 03:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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In your opinion, what would be the best way to play a necromantic Bard?
So, one of my players wanted to play a Dwarf Bard who uses necromancy (I asked why, he responded "He plays Death Metal"). He doesn't have a lot of time to make a character, so I'd like some tips. I haven't played a lot of bards myself, so sorry if something whooshed over my head.
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2019-07-13, 03:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: In your opinion, what would be the best way to play a necromantic Bard?
He would almost have to go with lore and steal them because bard is very slim on necromancy.
Valor would also make sense for a dwarf but there are no necro cantrips of first level spells for bard. Only blindness for second.
Necro and bard don’t really work very well.
How about death or grave cleric, death if evil is ok, grave if not.
Or magic initiate cleric, but feats at low level are not worth missing stats in my opinion.
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2019-07-13, 03:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: In your opinion, what would be the best way to play a necromantic Bard?
Does he actually mean Necromancy in a "raising the dead" way, or is he open to a more general interpretation of theme? Because I've been thinking on how to put together a Bard with a similar concept: " The Herald of Doom".
You're mostly looking at taking Warlock and some Cleric spells with Magical Secrets. If you want to go all out as a caster then taking Magical Initiate (assuming vHuman) for Toll The Dead cantrip (Warlock, so CHA based) from level 1 as your standard magical attack, with maybe Chill Touch (to prevent healing) and Arms of Hadar (as a once per day escape spell).
You then look at Magical Secrets like Hunger of Hadar, Maddening Darkness, Shadow of Moil and Contact Other Plane
From your own spell list Bane, Bestow Curse and Eyebite are flavourful.
I can make no vouches for the effectiveness of this in combination, but conceptually it works.
The idea of a small dip into Warlock (probably GOO/Tome) might work well too.
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2019-07-13, 04:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: In your opinion, what would be the best way to play a necromantic Bard?
I have a similar character based on the music by Mystery Skulls. I ended up going Rogue 1 Necromancy Wizard X. Still get expertise and can make use of high Charisma, while also getting access to all the good Nercomancy spells.
I considered going Lore for the MS to steal them, but I felt that those wouldn't quite be enough to pull the full NecroDancer aesthetic. So while my Rogue/Wizard doesn't have any Bard levels, he plays like a Bard, minus the Bardic Inspiration"I may be a Hobgoblin, but the real mythical creature I'm playing is an Ethical Billionaire"
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2019-07-13, 04:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-07-13, 04:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: In your opinion, what would be the best way to play a necromantic Bard?
Yeah, so if you're ok with that (Black Metal Bard, rather than Death Metal) then a 2 level dip into Warlock gets you Eldritch Blast and Agonizing Blast plus a couple of Cantrips and level 1 spells and one other Invocation.
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2019-07-13, 04:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-07-13, 06:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: In your opinion, what would be the best way to play a necromantic Bard?
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2019-07-13, 06:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: In your opinion, what would be the best way to play a necromantic Bard?
The Grateful Undead?
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2019-07-14, 02:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: In your opinion, what would be the best way to play a necromantic Bard?
Some of the ravnica backgrounds might be worth looking in to. This could add a number of necromancy spells to the Bard list.
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2019-07-14, 03:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: In your opinion, what would be the best way to play a necromantic Bard?
A necromantic bard?
Guess I'd play a lot of funeral dirges.
And command my zombie minions to cheer at all my performances.
On a more serious note (see what I did there?) I'd definitely choose the Lore College, so I could grab as many Necromancy spells as possible using Magical Secrets starting at 6th level.Last edited by JakOfAllTirades; 2019-07-14 at 03:46 AM.
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2019-07-14, 04:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: In your opinion, what would be the best way to play a necromantic Bard?
For flavour reasons, I'd suggest trying to pick up Toll the Dead somehow.
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2019-07-14, 06:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-07-14, 07:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Oct 2015
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Re: In your opinion, what would be the best way to play a necromantic Bard?
Yeah... I am going to leave this here...
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2019-07-14, 09:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: In your opinion, what would be the best way to play a necromantic Bard?
Glamour Bard and teamwork, with a necromancer wizard in the party. You channel your power into increasing the fortitude of the undead thralls of your teammate and moving them around. Later you can grab Crusader’s Mantle for a mass damage buff to the horde.
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2019-07-14, 12:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: In your opinion, what would be the best way to play a necromantic Bard?
Make sure to steal soul cage.
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2019-07-14, 02:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: In your opinion, what would be the best way to play a necromantic Bard?
..... So feel free to ignore me but I see "necromantic bard" and loose word association automatically goes to "necro romantic bard". So that's something there, but that also reminds me of the Romantic literature movement.
Your character is a Romantic who would go beyond the veil and rend his soul so that they could stay with those they love. They write sonnets and poetry romanticizing death a la Emily Dickinson or John Keats.78% of DM's started their first campaign in a tavern. If you're one of the 22% that didn't, copy and paste this into your signature.
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2019-07-14, 05:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-07-14, 11:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-07-15, 12:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: In your opinion, what would be the best way to play a necromantic Bard?
78% of DM's started their first campaign in a tavern. If you're one of the 22% that didn't, copy and paste this into your signature.
Where did you start yours?
In a mountain after a cave-in.
MY STATS OFF THE ELITE ARRAY:
Str: 14 Dex: 8 Con: 12 Int: 15 Wis: 10 Cha: 11
Please critique my 5e Beguiler Wizard subclass!
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2019-07-15, 07:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: In your opinion, what would be the best way to play a necromantic Bard?
Definitely one of the better options.
I'd add to this that you should look at Rituals quite closely: A Bard can cast 22 spells per day if they use all of their slots, and knows 22. A Lore Bard knows 24. A few Rituals are good to have. It's also no detriment to take a few very situational spells.
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2019-07-16, 01:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-07-16, 10:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: In your opinion, what would be the best way to play a necromantic Bard?
78% of DM's started their first campaign in a tavern. If you're one of the 22% that didn't, copy and paste this into your signature.
Where did you start yours?
In a mountain after a cave-in.
MY STATS OFF THE ELITE ARRAY:
Str: 14 Dex: 8 Con: 12 Int: 15 Wis: 10 Cha: 11
Please critique my 5e Beguiler Wizard subclass!
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