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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
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2019-07-15, 10:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
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2019-07-15, 10:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
Wow are those some dead easy faith tenets!
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2019-07-15, 10:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-07-15, 10:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
But Logann isn't going into the Council Chambers. And even if he was, why would being sighted matter in that situation? If anything, outside the chamber, where the fighting is, is where he would need his sight more (the better to see targets and attackers), and he seems to have Blind Fight or something that makes it not even that important there anyway.
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2019-07-15, 10:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-07-15, 10:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
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Ceterum autem censeo Hilgya malefica est
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2019-07-15, 10:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
I do feel a little bad for the remaining Hel damned souls of the last century or so that Loki just gave up on arguing for.
And “do whatever is best for you” sounds a lot like “I’ve got mine, Jack” which I think was one of the evil thoughts in the astral plane.
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2019-07-15, 10:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.
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2019-07-15, 10:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
Not really, the Alignment spectrum actually boils down to two very simple tilt scales that together make a TON of nuance and detail.
Good to Evil cares about your views on the good of others vs the good of yourself. A purely Good person would always help someone else even if it hurts them. A purely Evil person will do whatever it takes to get what THEY want even if it hurts others.
There's no requirement to not care about friends and family, not be able to cooperate if needed. It's just all about self interest. Loki is Evil because his tenet is always do what's best for him. Only he matters. He loves his brother sure, but if it came down to his brother or him dying, bye Thor. He cares about his Priests, so long as their care has benefit to him and doesn't hinder. Etc, etc.
No, it's evil. For the above reasons. Law to Chaos only cares about your view on personal freedom vs society.
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2019-07-15, 10:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-07-15, 10:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-07-15, 10:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
Anyone else find it ironic that its Loki of all people who gave up on the scheme and just flat out told Hel what the plan was?
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2019-07-15, 10:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
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2019-07-15, 10:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
He is still responsible for taking advantage of his drunk brother and causing an entire race to be subject to a torturous afterlife if they die a certain way. Even if it was part of a scheme to teach his daughter a lesson or to keep her from becoming too powerful, he knows damn well what kind of Hel he was sending thousands of innocents to.
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2019-07-15, 10:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-07-15, 10:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
I don't see it? Yeah, Loki seems sorely under-represented in Dwarf society, but there's nothing her dialogue that suggests to me that she thinks she's the first to catch on to this. She's explaining it from scratch, not bothering to refer to other people's writings or scriptures or what have you. But if you serve a deity whose portfolio apparently includes iconoclasm and subversion, eschewing an appeal to authority in your argument makes sense.
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2019-07-15, 10:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
Well, that nicely settled Hilgya’s role in this scene. Well done on her part, though a few more flamestrikes would have been nice. Distracting Hel aside, I am curious why we’re getting the glow here of jumping back and forth between the gods and that fight in the dwarves meeting hall. Maybe this is setting up for the gods to react to the vote as it happens?
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2019-07-15, 10:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-07-15, 11:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-07-15, 11:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
Truer chaotic words have never been spoken. Well done!
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2019-07-15, 11:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
The fact that it's on her is what makes me think of it. Maybe it's because she's as self-centered as a spinning top, or maybe because she's a loner, but the way she talks about it, and how it's on her to teach it to other dwarves, rather than talking about "loki priests", suggests to me that this is not something other Loki priests know of. Which suggests to me that Loki doesn't tell this to his priests, or some human Loki priest would have been sent to collect some dwarven souls for Loki over the last few hundred centuries.
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Ceterum autem censeo Hilgya malefica est
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2019-07-15, 11:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
Talking is a free action*, and casting the spell takes one round. Since the Proxy is already being summoned, if Durkon spends the one round needed to cast Remove Blindness he's losing one round of being present when the dwarven clan elders talk to Dvorak. So at this point that one round COULD make the difference between "Dwarves decide things without Durkon" versus "Durkon crashes the moot".
Now, Hilgya might be making a tactical mistake. If she had prepared and cast Word of Recall on the daycare, she'd be able to teleport there as soon as the vote was decided and know for a fact whether she needed to plane shift or not. And also have much better odds of NOT needing to plane shift, if she's able to help swing the vote.
On the other hand, it looks like Hilgya hung so far back that she didn't make it into the council chamber at all. So now she's going to find the results of the vote after everyone asks her, "Why'd you bail?"
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2019-07-15, 11:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
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2019-07-15, 11:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
No. Just cause knows what he's doing doesn't mean she can stop him.
Hel, knowing Loki's tricking her makes it even easier for him to trick Hel.
Plus, this is still Daddy Loki trying to instill a fundamental lesson(s) in his daughter dearest. One(s) that Hel's life might depend on in the long run.
So him telling her might very well be a prelude to another attempt to drive the lesson home."If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
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2019-07-15, 11:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
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Each one of us, alone, is but a drop in the sea
Our powers pale compared with the great heroes
Our battles don’t hit theheadlines or shake the earth
But they are few, can’t be everywhere, and we, many
So, when the world or universe needs saving, they come
But when people needs saving, we are the ones to appear
We're underdogs, but we rise up to the challenge to be heroes.
(Wishing Joe, a low-powered superhero)
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2019-07-15, 11:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
Note how she goes from "this should totally work for a Cleric of Loki" to "I'm spreading the word to all Dwarves."
Also, she wants her "ticket punched for Valhalla", not for some other domain.
Then there's her "I like my chances" final line. I think this is something that a not very bright or wise ("Miss-Cleric-Who-Can't-Resist-Domination-Magic") evil schemer came up with all on her ownLast edited by GregTD; 2019-07-15 at 01:06 PM.
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2019-07-15, 11:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread
I mean, I'm not gonna fault her for wanting her son to not be destroyed by a god-killing abomination if the world goes kaboom, but come on. Now?