OOTS #1171 - The Discussion Thread

[D.One]

On another matter, I wonder if Tinna has any zodiac-related spell now prepared for this situation, sinc she had the oportunity to prepare spells before coming to the battle.

[Ruck]

That was one of his best recurring pranks at Oxford. He inherited this playful streak from his parents, who themselves began pranking him immediately after he was born by naming him Jolkien Rolkien Rolkien Tolkien.

And people think George Robble Robble Martin has it rough.

[Dion]

And people think George Robble Robble Martin has it rough.

Little known true fact: George RR Martin was the original inspiration for the Hamburgler.

[Squire Doodad]

They are souls, and souls are power. Its unpleasant to think about but I think she probably just puts them somewhere and leaves them to squirm. It is Hel after all. I'd like to think that the people saying that the baby fighting to grow probably counts though. If Alcoholism, or attacking a tree, is an honorable death, struggling out of a dirty diaper probably is too.

There's a saying, some reasonably important person said it: "Power I can't access is no power at all". Similarly, "Power that requires more effort to use than I get out of it is no power at all". Hel might get instant claims on all dwarven infants, but babies are loud, and annoying, and they probably only provide a brief amount of energy. While she wouldn't complain about a reasonably steady stream of minor soul energy, she isn't going to go out of her way to get them. If anyone contests the baby, she just lets them have it unless its the child of the recently deceased High Priest of X and could be used as a bargaining chip.

[Skull the Troll]

There's a saying, some reasonably important person said it: "Power I can't access is no power at all". Similarly, "Power that requires more effort to use than I get out of it is no power at all". Hel might get instant claims on all dwarven infants, but babies are loud, and annoying, and they probably only provide a brief amount of energy. While she wouldn't complain about a reasonably steady stream of minor soul energy, she isn't going to go out of her way to get them. If anyone contests the baby, she just lets them have it unless its the child of the recently deceased High Priest of X and could be used as a bargaining chip.

They arent loud and annoying (or at least you dont need to hear them) if you chuck them in a pit. It not like they need to be fed or anything. Dead babies dont require care if youre evil.

[Squire Doodad]

They arent loud and annoying (or at least you dont need to hear them) if you chuck them in a pit. It not like they need to be fed or anything. Dead babies dont require care if youre evil.

Like I said- Hel probably won't have an issue with getting baby souls, but she sure as herself won't get into an argument for one.

[Rrmcklin]

They arent loud and annoying (or at least you dont need to hear them) if you chuck them in a pit. It not like they need to be fed or anything. Dead babies dont require care if youre evil.

Like I said- Hel probably won't have an issue with getting baby souls, but she sure as herself won't get into an argument for one.

I think the point being made, which I agree with, is that Hel wouldn't actually have to deal with the babies. Even if they aren't much, they're something and she'd have no reason to refuse them, and probably ample leverage in arguing "no, this baby didn't die doing anything honorable".

Assuming there would be an argument to begin with; these last couple strips made it apparent that some things are considered so clear cut that even Thor won't contest them under normal circumstances.

[Dion]

Davy Crocket once killed him a bear when he was only three. Paul Bunyan destroyed the British navy when he was a baby. And baby Superman probably did something awesome, probably with baby Batman.

So clearly babies are capable of feats of incredible heroism and bravery.

I see no reason a dwarven baby who *wasn’t* killing bears, sinking warships, or fighting evil with baby Batman *wouldn't* be sent to Hel.

[KorvinStarmast]

I see no reason a dwarven baby who *wasn’t* killing bears, sinking warships, or fighting evil with baby Batman *wouldn't* be sent to Hel.

Note to self. *Avoid a multiverse where Dion is a Deity*

[Dion]

Note to self. *Avoid a multiverse where Dion is a Deity*

But my multiverse has baby Batman and baby Superman fighting crime. Also, baby Bugs Bunny is helping for some reason.

[Schroeswald]

But my multiverse has baby Batman and baby Superman fighting crime. Also, baby Bugs Bunny is helping for some reason.

I'll go visit Earth-One, Superbaby exists and Batman turned into a baby a couple of times.

[Dion]

I'll go visit Earth-One, Superbaby exists and Batman turned into a baby a couple of times.

So you’re saying that no matter how over-the-top ridiculous I want to be, The Simpsons already did it?

[Peelee]

Note to self: Actively seek out a multiverse where Dion is a deity.

[The MunchKING]

Davy Crocket once killed him a bear when he was only three. Paul Bunyan destroyed the British navy when he was a baby. And baby Superman probably did something awesome, probably with baby Batman.

According to superdickery.com, mostly putting people in MORE danger.

[Peelee]

According to superdickery.com, mostly putting people in MORE danger.

That's why I love DC more than Marvel. Marvel heroes ran around fighting threats to the universe. DC heroes were trying to stop their girlfriends from getting hit songs with celebrities and being doomed to eat hamburgers nonstop lest they die.

[Schroeswald]

That's why I love DC more than Marvel. Marvel heroes ran around fighting threats to the universe. DC heroes were trying to stop their girlfriends from getting hit songs with celebrities and being doomed to eat hamburgers nonstop lest they die.

Silver Age DC is utter nonsense, and I love it (by the time the age even started there had been over 400 Superman stories, and a similar amount of Batman ones), they were so crazy that DC's heroes girlfriends and best friends had their own comic books.

[Squire Doodad]

Silver Age DC is utter nonsense, and I love it (by the time the age even started there had been over 400 Superman stories, and a similar amount of Batman ones), they were so crazy that DC's heroes girlfriends and best friends had their own comic books.

The "Adventures of Unnamed LexCorp Sanitation Crewman #3" series struck me as stretching it a little, but it has some good moments!

[Rogar Demonblud]

Marvel still gave us Hydra Bob, so the honors are even.

[Schroeswald]

DC has two separate B or C-Listcomedic stretching characters (Marvel has only one C-List comedic stretching character), and a a character named Matter-Eater Lad, it wins.

[Kantaki]

(Marvel has only one C-List comedic stretching character)

Reed Richards, right?

[Schroeswald]

Reed Richards, right?

Flatman, Reed is A-List.

EDIT:He’s also non-comedic, I don’t actually know if you’re joking or not but people must know about Flatman.

[goodpeople25]

Flatman, Reed is A-List.

EDIT:He’s also non-comedic, I don’t actually know if you’re joking or not but people must know about Flatman.

Frequently being concurrently the smartest and dumbest person in the room is pretty dang comedic.

Also A list implies importance/power/ect in a way for a person to make fun of a character by ranking them lower and I'd expect often correlates with amount of appearances increasing the chances for being comedic.

Also you went with Matter-Eater Lad earlier instead of Arm Fall Off Boy. Shame on you.

[Schroeswald]

Frequently being concurrently the smartest and dumbest person in the room is pretty dang comedic.

Also A list implies importance/power/ect in a way for a person to make fun of a character by ranking them lower and I'd expect often correlates with amount of appearances increasing the chances for being comedic.

Also you went with Matter-Eater Lad earlier instead of Arm Fall Off Boy. Shame on you.

Of course Reed has comedic potential, but those stick in the minds that write most “important, interesting and not absurd on the face of it” heroes don’t recognize it.

Fun fact: I wrote Arm Fall Off Boy first but they treated Matter-Eater Lad as seriously as Lightning Lad (it was the Silver Age so not that much), they didn’t let AFOB in the Legion due to his powers being too dumb.

[Kantaki]

Flatman, Reed is A-List.

EDIT:He’s also non-comedic, I don’t actually know if you’re joking or not but people must know about Flatman.

Reed Richards is useless.

Yeah, mostly joking.
Also, Reed's the only stretchy Marvel Guy I know.

I mean the two DC guys I at least know from the various cartoons, but Flatman?
Never heard before.
Sounds like someone who turns into paper.

[Quebbster]

Flatman, Reed is A-List.

EDIT:He’s also non-comedic, I don’t actually know if you’re joking or not but people must know about Flatman.

I know Flatman, but I had no idea it was him you refered to. How many lists are there? The Great Lakes Avengers is one of those things I don't assume anyone knows about, not even self-proclaimed comics fans.

I assume one of the DC guys is Plastic Man by the way. The other might be Elongated Man, not quite sure if he counts as comedic.

[Schroeswald]

I know Flatman, but I had no idea it was him you refered to. How many lists are there? The Great Lakes Avengers is one of those things I don't assume anyone knows about, not even self-proclaimed comics fans.

I assume one of the DC guys is Plastic Man by the way. The other might be Elongated Man, not quite sure if he counts as comedic.

I say there are four lists, A-List (Reed, Bruce, Clark, Logan, Peter, Tony since 2008, Diana, Barry), B-List (****, Oliver usually, Blade, Constantine on and off, Daredevil, Plastic Man, Beast), C-List (Booster Gold, Nova, Swamp Thing, Animal Man, Squirrel Girl) and D-List (Arm Fall Off Boy, 3-D Man), you can divide them up with plusses and minuses to get more specific, I count the GLA as C-list because they will able to get a recent revival and aren't swept under the rug.

EDIT: Oh and Kantaki? Flat-Man's powers are the same as Mr. Fantastic, but when he uses them he's flat as paper.

[Kantaki]

EDIT: Oh and Kantaki? Flat-Man's powers are the same as Mr. Fantastic, but when he uses them he's flat as paper.

I figured as much from context.

[Squire Doodad]

I figured as much from context.

Honestly he sounds like a depowered Flat Stanley.

[brian 333]

I can't believe Forbishman didn't make the list.