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2019-08-16, 08:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unearthed Arcana: Monk & Barbarian
It seems clear to me that they don't work with Flurry, since you have to use a bonus action for the bonus astral arms attacks. Though I suppose you could attack with your astral arms, and then if in melee, spend the ki point to use your flurry of blows. But that's spending a ki point to use a feature that's worse than your astral arms feature gives you for free. I suppose it could let you do stunning strikes...
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2019-08-16, 09:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-16, 09:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unearthed Arcana: Monk & Barbarian
Well, its also a bonus action to use martial arts bonus action attack. So the fact that two features compete for bonus actions is absolutely nothing at all new for a Monk, they have so many uses for reaction, bonus action, etc that its ridiculous. One more thing being possible with a BA is nothing out of the ordinary. I don't THINK you can Flurry with them, but I want that clarified is all.
The Stunning Strike thing is... Quite a bit more murky to me. They got a lot of flak for Sun Soul's radiant sun bolt not being able to be used to strike.
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2019-08-16, 09:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unearthed Arcana: Monk & Barbarian
Damage types don't usually matter that much, especially pre level 6 when Monks get Magic Fists.
In terms of number of Attacks the Astral Monk pulls ahead of the normal Monk by Level 11 (before that they already can BA Attack with their Unarmed Attacks thanks to Martial Arts)
It's not nearly as strong as you make it out to be. Essentially all you gain is Reach and Wisdom for Strength stuff for 10 mins. It get's strong come level 11. But even then. At that point your Fighter has nice magical weapons and armor and get's 3 Attacks for an Action (Astral Monk has 4 for a greater expense of an Action and BA)
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2019-08-16, 09:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unearthed Arcana: Monk & Barbarian
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2019-08-16, 09:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-16, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-16, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unearthed Arcana: Monk & Barbarian
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2019-08-16, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-16, 09:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-16, 09:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unearthed Arcana: Monk & Barbarian
How bad would it be to allow the wild soul to control the flumph spirits? By my reading the aoes don't stack so it a 4 weak ones so I can't see it hurting.
Also I think they either need to scale with lv or add an ablity of control over them at some point. Maybe at lv 10 they can roll twice on the table and pick one.
Further thoughts on the spell recharge I believe it could be handled the same. Roll 2d4 pick one vs upgrading to d6. Combined with a limit of some sort like x times per LR or once target per LR this could be a a really fun option with just a little bit of tinkering.what is the point of living if you can't deadlift?
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2019-08-16, 09:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unearthed Arcana: Monk & Barbarian
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2019-08-16, 09:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-16, 09:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-16, 10:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-16, 10:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unearthed Arcana: Monk & Barbarian
Dan Dillon, newest WOTC staff member, confirmed to me that the Astral Arms are absolutely melee weapons and the next draft of this will explicitly state that.
So Stunning Strike is a full go.
Will report back on the Flurry topic if I hear anything.
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2019-08-16, 10:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unearthed Arcana: Monk & Barbarian
Wow, that means you can, like, add Holy Weapon to them, for instance. 2d8 extra radiant damage on 6 attacks.
6*(5.5(1d10 Astral Arms)+5(WIS mod)+9(2d8 Holy Weapon))+5.5(Extra Astral damage once per turn)=122.5 average damage if it all hits. And it's radiant damage, and isn't based on a major cooldown like Action Surge.Last edited by Reevh; 2019-08-16 at 10:39 AM.
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2019-08-16, 10:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-16, 10:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unearthed Arcana: Monk & Barbarian
That is why it comes with its own version of bonus action attacks.
Ex.
At 5.
You could attack with spectral arm x2 normally and bonus action attack with them as their own ability
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You attack with them normally x2 and then spend a ki to flurry with your own unarmed attacks but might have to move into range.
At 11
2 normal and 2 as bonus with spectral arms.
You can stunning strike with any of them.
Still one of the biggest issues with monks is total lack of magic weapons for unarmed, lack of feat support, not that many monks can squeeze in a feat anyway, and almost nothing for magical armor.
There are no +1,2,3 gloves, cestus, knuckledusters or whatever to boost your to hit like everyone else can get. That is a pretty big issueLast edited by Misterwhisper; 2019-08-16 at 11:00 AM.
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2019-08-16, 10:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unearthed Arcana: Monk & Barbarian
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2019-08-16, 11:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-16, 11:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-08-16, 11:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unearthed Arcana: Monk & Barbarian
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2019-08-16, 11:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unearthed Arcana: Monk & Barbarian
Confirmed:
Can NOT Flurry with the Astral Arms
CAN Stunning Strike
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2019-08-16, 11:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unearthed Arcana: Monk & Barbarian
My next character is, 100%, gonna be this monk.
Shi devoted their life to meditation, finally gaining enlightenment, by making contact with a Great Old One. They rip off their own arms in the insane rage that comes with understanding the true nature of all things. They now can mentally open portals to allow the Great Old One to project into our plane.
When not being actively used to slap the unworthy (at the cost of ki points to focus and control the tentacles), tentacles rest comfortably wrapped around Shi's throat.
Tell me I can't.Check out a bunch of stuff I wrote for my campaign world of Oz.
SpoilerI am the Burley, formerly known as Burley Warlock. I got my name changed. Please remember me...
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2019-08-16, 11:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unearthed Arcana: Monk & Barbarian
It would be odd to play the monk as a Simic Hybrid.
2 normal arms
2 big crab claws
2 even bigger spirit arms
Would look very odd.
While fighting with the ancestral arms I would keep my normal arms occupied by doing things like taking notes, reading a book, smoking a pipe, or filing my nails or something.
Also this would be a total monster in an antimagic area.
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2019-08-16, 11:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unearthed Arcana: Monk & Barbarian
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2019-08-16, 11:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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