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2020-06-14, 02:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things You Never Noticed VII: Wait, This Isnt the MitD Thread?
Phew, finally decided to buy a pdf of OOPCs. Yup, I'm 15 years late. I'll just comment on a few details here:
Spoiler: OOPCs
*Redcloak's intro was surprisingly wordy.
*Bozz(a)k calling Haley "baby" was definitely a reaction.
*Eugene's a lot more 'nicer' than what the comic shows him (being dead does that to you).
*The Blood Oath scenes match SOD!
*Roy and Durkon's friendship is eternal.
*Aarindarius uses Bixby's instead of Bugsby.
*Several of the OOTS avatars came from here -- or is it the other way around?
*The Order really could've needed Buffy.
*Or Psteve.
*Elan's reaction to being hired is really damn sweet.
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2020-06-14, 03:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things You Never Noticed VII: Wait, This Isnt the MitD Thread?
Eh, to judge from the Dungeon magazine continuity Psteve probably would have psucked.
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2020-06-17, 06:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things You Never Noticed VII: Wait, This Isnt the MitD Thread?
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2020-06-19, 09:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things You Never Noticed VII: Wait, This Isnt the MitD Thread?
The D&D 3.5 rules about potions say that a potion vial is a stoppered glass or ceramic bottle "no more than 1 inch wide and 2 inches high" that holds 1 ounce of liquid. That's physically implausible. Maybe that's part of why potions are magical.
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2020-06-19, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-06-19, 10:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things You Never Noticed VII: Wait, This Isnt the MitD Thread?
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2020-06-19, 10:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things You Never Noticed VII: Wait, This Isnt the MitD Thread?
Let's assume a configuration that maximises internal volume for those parameters: a cylindrical bottle (shaped like a soda can) two UoM tall and one UoM in diameter has an internal volume of 1.57 cubic UoM - cubic inches, in this case. Google tells me that an ounce of water occupies 1.8 cubic inches, because Americans hate themselves, presumably. Getting 1.8 unit of measures into a vessel with 1.57 units of internal volume tends towards the tricky side.
That said, maybe every magic potion is (eyeballing) 30% denser than water, and thus their ounce volume is lower than water's?
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2020-06-19, 10:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things You Never Noticed VII: Wait, This Isnt the MitD Thread?
Or, for a visual representation, this is bigger than a potion bottle:
Spoiler: Top Diameter: 2 Inches. Bottom Diameter: 1 3/8 Inches. Height: 2 3/8 Inches. Capacity: 1.5 oz
It's not that Americans hate themselves, it's that Americans hate other Americans. Take that, Americans!Last edited by Peelee; 2020-06-19 at 10:27 AM.
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2020-06-19, 10:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-06-19, 10:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-06-19, 10:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things You Never Noticed VII: Wait, This Isnt the MitD Thread?
Meanwhile, in the rest of the world, 1 ml (of water) = 1 cubic cm. By definition. Making this kind of calculation so much easier.
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2020-06-19, 10:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things You Never Noticed VII: Wait, This Isnt the MitD Thread?
I'm not following that. A cylinder 2 inches high and 1 inch wide has a volume of 6.28 cubic inches, or 3.62 fluid ounces ... doesn't it? Even assuming thick walls and some space taken up by the stopper, there's still enough room for 1 fluid ounce of liquid.
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2020-06-19, 11:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-06-19, 11:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things You Never Noticed VII: Wait, This Isnt the MitD Thread?
Yeah, it's many years since I did any geometry. I was multiplying 2x the circumference of the circle, rather than 2x the surface area.
Still, a square bottle 1x1x2 = 2 cubic inches, which is just over a fluid ounce..
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2020-06-19, 11:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-06-19, 11:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things You Never Noticed VII: Wait, This Isnt the MitD Thread?
Well....
- A US gallon is defined as 231 cubic inches.
- There are four quarts in a gallon, so a quart is exactly 57.75 cubic inches.
- There are two pints in a quart, so a pint is exactly 28.875 cubic inches.
- There are two cups in a pint, so a cup is exactly 14.4375 cubic inches.
- There are eight fluid ounces in a cup, so a fluid ounce is exactly 1.8046875 cubic inches.
Yeah; I'm fairly sure the "do numbers that resemble sense" editing pass came up with something along those lines, and then the "make it sound cool" editing pass changed it to a cylindrical shape without considering what that did to the numbers; as much as the books love their whole numbers, they tend to round correctly. Either that, or this was some really sad attempt to imply potions are denser than water.FeytouchedBanana eldritch disciple avatar by...me!
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Re: Things You Never Noticed VII: Wait, This Isnt the MitD Thread?
I kind of glossed over those numbers, so I never really thought of a potion bottle being effectively a shotglass; i always just kind of figured they were roughly the size drawn in OOTS, ish. Though for that small size, rectangular/boxy bottles would be much better, IMO.Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2020-06-19, 12:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things You Never Noticed VII: Wait, This Isnt the MitD Thread?
That doesn't leave much room for the sides. That would be ten square inches (including the top), which would be less than a fiftieth of an inch thick. That seems perilously fragile.
On the other hand, the goods and services section describes vials as being three inches high. That sounds much more feasible.Assistant Treasurer of the Haley fan club
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Re: Things You Never Noticed VII: Wait, This Isnt the MitD Thread?
Roughly 5 centimeters by 2.5 centimeters.
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2020-06-19, 12:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-06-19, 12:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-06-19, 01:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-06-19, 01:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-06-19, 02:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Pretty much what I posted: that I hear that from a lot of metric proponents, and that Google will convert a measure with negligible effort. Google doesn't really advertise that it'll convert units straight from the search bar, both to and from metric, and it's a real time saver.
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2020-06-19, 02:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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First off, in general **** Google.
Second off, I precisely said I was too lazy to look up what it mapped to. But, that's the core point here, Peelee had already given a visual representation so I didn't need to. Because frankly knowing the exact measurement would not have helped in the least.Forum Wisdom
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Re: Things You Never Noticed VII: Wait, This Isnt the MitD Thread?
Specifically, the raw materials suppliers hate the Engineers and Scientists.
Or maybe we just hate being told what to do by non-Americans, regardless of how sensible it might be. "You can't tell us what to do, SI! Who cares that it cost us amulti-billion125-million-dollar Mars probe? Who cares that Engineering and Science students want to tear out their hair when they start learning about derived units and unit conversions? We don't! So butt out, SI!"
But I'm not bitter.Last edited by Lord Torath; 2020-06-19 at 03:07 PM. Reason: Lost probe was only $125,000,000
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2020-06-19, 03:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Things You Never Noticed VII: Wait, This Isnt the MitD Thread?
Depends on the kind of engineer. US customary units are much easier to use when it comes to fractions, as they tend to be easily divisible by more numbers, so for most common engineering, it actually works quite well. Which is not to say I wouldn't mind if we swapped all over to metric and left USCU for the applications that actually use it effectively.
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2020-06-19, 03:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Personally, I think preferred units are a matter of culture, as well as of measure. Units are as important as the number they're associated with, and the people using them; and unit conversion is cultural acceptance given technical form: The idea that other people's thoughts and words are no less valuable solely for being made along different lines than your own, even if you don't understand why they're different; and with a little effort you can still understand what they're saying, and it's worthwhile. Like you say, an eighth-of-a-billion-dollar Mars probe was lost because some people only looked at the numbers and just assumed their units were the only one that could matter; and that was an incident that only cost dollars instead of lives.
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2020-06-19, 03:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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