Unpopular Other media opinions

[CharlieSmiles]

Since there is already a forum stating unpopular opinions of music, this one is for Movies, TV and Books, and video games

Movies- Star Wars Epsisode 1-3 aren't bad movies, and George Lucas didn't ruin Star Wars, Scarface is horribly overrated, so is Goodfellas, the Best Superhero movie ever made is Tim Buron's Batmanand Mel Gibson makes good movies

TV- Lucille Ball is just annoying, I've yet to see a good anime program, evrything Hanna Barbera made is awful, and Frasier is a better show than Cheers

Books- Terry Goodkind is a better writer than Robert Jordan ( but GRRM is still the best) Tyrion is not the best character and Feast for the Crows was not a drop off in quality at all. Dune is not that good and the Eathsea Trilogy is not good at all.

Video Games- Halo isn't that good, it's just an allright shooter. The Grand theft auto games are just boring.

[Tengu]

There already is a thread about computer games. Not about the other ones, though.

Movies: I liked Star Wars Episode 3 (though not 1 or 2). Dark City is mostly better than Matrix. Return of the King was mostly a very disappointing movie.

Anime: Episode 12 (festival) was my least favorite of Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya.

Books: I have no desire to read Song of Fire and Ice - it seems to be trying too hard to be dark and gritty, with relative morals, shades of gray and non-sympathetic protagonists everywhere. I liked Bored of the Rings.

[Saithis Bladewing]

The Silmarillion was a good book.

I liked Star Wars Episode 3.

Return of the King wasn't very good.

I enjoyed the second Matrix.

Firefly is not the best show ever, it's good, but not half as amazing as everyone makes it out to be.

Serenity was a blah movie.

Naruto and Bleach suck.

I can't think of anything else at this moment...

[Nibleswick]

The original Battlestar Galactica is much better than the new one.

[Tengu]

RPGs: DND is a badly-balanced, old-fashioned in a bad way system, that rides mostly on popularity rather than quality.

General media: I don't like dark, brooding anti-heroes, and settings where the author thinks that "good = stupid, immoral = smart". And don't even get me started on media where you're supposed to root for the bad guys.

[Semidi]

I think I have a lynch worthy list.

-I can't stand anime, the animation comes off as tacky, and the characters are dross.
-I couldn't finish Farscape, I have the 1st season sitting by my TV, it's gathering dust.
-I watched one episode of Firefly. I didn't like it. I have the entire season next to my TV, it hasn't been touched.
-I can't stand reading Pratchett. I don't find him amusing or interesting.
The Lord of the Rings movies were merely decent. Far better than the books though.
-Every single horror movie made since 2000 has been incredibly stupid.
-Spiderman 2 was horrible.
-So was 3.
-The greatest vampire story is Stephen King's Salem's Lot (the book) since Stoker's Dracula.
-Stephen King is vastly underrated by elitists.
-The only comics worth reading are made by Vertigo and Image. Some independent ones are good too.
-The Stargate movie was bad, so was the show.
-The only good movies based on comic books are From Hell, Tim Burton's Batman, Batman Begins, The Crow, V for Vendetta, and Sin City.
-The 300 is overrated. The action scenes aren’t even that good.
-South Park is the only television show worth watching.
-Citizen Kane is the most overrated film ever, ever, ever.
-I hate clear-cut good guys & bad guys in any media. Give me brooding anti-heroes over superman any day.

[Tengu]

-I hate clear-cut good guys & bad guys in any media. Give me brooding anti-heroes over superman any day.

On a slightly offtopic note, does that mean you also dislike OotS?

[Trazoi]

Film:
Star Wars Episode 2 and 3 weren't that great, but were better than 6.
I don't like Tarantino films.
Out of Miyazaki's films I've only seen Spirted Away and Howl's Moving Castle, but I didn't think they were that great.

TV:
I don't watch much TV these days, so I can't comment on anything recent. But I don't get what's so great about Seinfeld or Friends.

Anime:
I don't really get the appeal of anime - at least the shows that fans keep raving about. Generally the lead up is good until the whole universe goes totally bonkers somewhere around the halfway to two-thirds mark in the series.

Books:
I'm wary against reading any fantasy series longer than a trilogy. Mainly though because once I start reading a story I have to finish it regardless of how awful it is.

Football: (yeah, wasn't on the list but it fits into "Other"!)
Playing football is awesome. Being a rabid supporter of a cashed-up A legaue team is silly. And football culture shows (i.e. anything with a title like "The Football Show") are dreck. This is true for every code of football.

[Semidi]

On a slightly offtopic note, does that mean you also dislike OotS?

No, I love the characters Miko(I confess a bit irritating), Belkar, Redcloak, and V. Because they're not boring, and we the audience are not quite sure how they'll play out. Look at old Miko threads for an example of this; she’s interesting character that was hugely analyzed by just about all the readers.

Roy, Haley, Xyklon, Elan, Durkon, and so on are less interesting, though amusing. If it didn’t have the above characters in it (Miko, Red Cloak ect.), I wouldn’t be reading it.

Edit: Huge number of errors in here from the editing process. Sleepy.

[Nerd-o-rama]

My rampant Martian Successor Nadesico fanboyism seems to get less sympathy than I thought it would...but it was the first anime I watched that didn't suck balls, so I'm sticking by it.

While I'm on anime, I liked the ending of Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann. All of it, if you know what I'm talking about. Oh, and Evangelion worked artistically, even if I didn't exactly enjoy it.


Let's see, what else...Family Guy is mediocre at best, the Simpsons has sucked for more than a decade, the second Dungeons & Dragons movie was fun to watch, Harry Potter is merely average (and book 5 was downright bad), South Park is funny more than 50% of the time (most people I know like either the social commentary or the immature humor, not both)...oh, and the Lord of the Rings trilogy is a better linguistics textbook than narrative. Not that it's a terrible narrative.

You know, I was going to edit in responses to Semidi's points, but there are enough of them that fill me with blinding rage that arguing them coherently is beyond my capability.

[Artemician]

Non-Anime:
I hate all live-action TV series! The characters move so non-fluidly, the dialogue is stilted, and the shows generally dissolve into repetitition by the second season.

/tongue-in-cheek.

[Redpieper]

Hmm let's see

- Lost is boring
- The new battlestar galactica is mediocre at best
- I liked Waterworld
- I detest the Wheel of Time series

That should be enough for now

[Darken Rahl]

I hate Seinfeld.

[Ranis]

Liv Tyler is the worst actress in history and is only in the entertainment business because of her father.

[Cubey]

Books:
I have no intention to read Harry Potter books. Ever. Not because I consider them stupid or anything (I don't criticise what I don't know), but they don't appeal to me.

Anime:
Elfen Lied = total suckage. I don't get it what people liked in it.
Ninja Scroll (movie, didn't watch the series) = same as above
I liked all the Neon Genesis Evangelion characters. Also, all the episodes sans the ending. Not the way the series ended, but rather HOW it was shown in the series. Either a low-budget 2-episode boredom (with one hilarious scene at the end) or the movie which is a giant middle finger shown to the audience (but I understand Hideaki Anno, I'd do something like that if I received so much hate mail anyway. Plus, End of Evangelion was the main reason FLCL was created, speaking of which...)
I have no idea how unpopular this opinion is, but I consider FLCL one of the best anime ever created. At least from the ones I watched so far.

[Green Bean]

I watched Episode when I was ten, and Jar-Jar was my favourite character. To this day, I don't think he deserves the bad rap he got.

Actually, I have the same thing with Scrappy Doo. I always wished they didn't drag him away when he wanted to fight the monster of the week; it would have solved all their problems so much faster.

[Closet_Skeleton]

Evangelion is drivel.

The Melencholy of Suzumiya Haruhi is just another good comedy show among a host of other average to excelent comedy shows.

All pure gag anime are completly forgetable.

Excel Saga gets old too soon for it to be worth watching.

The Phantom Menance is a bad movie but far from the worse Star Wars film.

The first Matix film was actually a good movie.

Inuyasha is worse than Maison Ikkoku.

Megatokyo is a crap webcomic but an above average Shoujo Manga.

Shounen can include romance shows.

Both Underworld films were equally bad.

I liked Gundam SEED. Destiny still mostly sucked.

Most videogame movies are bad because the game they were based off was bad.

Lost is truly terrible.

[Winterwind]

Nerd-O-Rama made surprisingly many points I would have made myself.

Let's see, what has he left...

- The Lord of the Rings books are an excellent fantasy trilogy
* And so is the Silmarillion
* They are far away from being the best though.

- Star Trek is, for the most part, really, really bad (and, so that this is not pure negativity on my part, I shall elaborate why):
* The characters... are no characters. They are flat, one-dimensional and lack any flaws to make them human or interesting. They are way too perfect for that.
* Technobabble does not an interesting plot device make.
* Star Trek is quite possibly the most hypocritical series ever: It's basic message is "Aliens are good - as long as they are exactly like us!", also known as "Anything different from us is baaaad!". Hive mind? Why, obviously, inferior to humans in every possible way, and also, evil. Immortality, elder races, other empires? All are greedy, selfish, evil, immature, lacking of human emotions (which are, obviously, superior to anything else), and basically only human ethics are right. Ever.

...huh. I think this last one might have put me on many a black list.

[Serenity]

The original Star Wars trilogy was really not that good.

Seasons 6 and 7 of Buffy were the best of the show. Good Spike was awesome.

There was absolutely nothing wrong with the Harry Potter epilogue. I don't think Harry was at all annoying in Book 5, and he doesn't yell as much as people make out.

Despite the rushed ending, KOTOR 2 was a better game than the first one.

[Jack Squat]

I liked Andromeda and Hercules: The Legendary Journeys.

Rocky Horror isn't that exciting of an experiance to see; amusing, yes, but I can't say I'll go out of my way to see it again.

Pikmin's a fun game

Total Recall wasn't that bad.

I've got more; might post them later

[Closet_Skeleton]

Despite the rushed ending, KOTOR 2 was a better game than the first one.

This isn't the videogame forum but I will say that while I found KOTOR more fun, KOTOR 2 did improve some mechanics.

Things I forgot from my first list:

Tsukihime had a better anime adaptation that Fate Stay Night.

Uzumaki Naruto is a better deconstruction of the shounen hero than Ikari Shinji is.

Arnold Swarzenaga's comedies can be better than his action movies. Last Action Hero isn't that bad.

The Berzerk anime was utterly horrible.

Kenshin is not more realistic than other shounen shows. The OVAs were pretty but the show is totally over the top.

The Last Crusade is a terrible film and the worse Indianna Jones Film.

Gantz gets good if you don't give up on it. Which I may have to because I'm so confused about the new arc.

[BlackStaticWolf]

I second everything Winterwind said about Star Trek. Every Star Trek series/book is shoddy sci-fi at best.

Rocky Horror sucks. Nothing in it even made me crack a smile and I like that sort of humor. The weird midnight showings with games and stuff are stupid.

Every teen angst show in history is bad. All of them. Dawson's Creek? Awful. Everwood? Drivel. The OC? Garbage.
That includes their anime equivalents. Every single one is same thing: self-centered teenagers making an overly big deal of normal life occurences.

[Cubey]

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, even if that opinion is so different from mine that I have to wonder sometimes.
Anyway, from the less drastic examples, I just HAVE to inquire:

The Last Crusade is a terrible film and the worse Indianna Jones Film.

Even comparing it to the Temple of Doom?

[Jerthanis]

(Forum ate my post *grumbles*)

- Tim Burton hasn't made a good movie since Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Yes, this includes Nightmare before Christmas and his Batman movies. He is the most overrated writer/director ever.

- Enterprise is better than Voyager. Barely, but still... (DS9 is the best one, but that's not an opinion to be popular or not, it's a simple, provable fact )

- The Phantom Menace is the best of the Star Wars prequel movies. Better paced, better acted, had a better written plot than 2 and 3... yet it had enormous, unavoidable flaws that can't be ignored, and those drag it down into suckitude. Unfortunately, 2 and 3 have no redeemable aspects whatsoever, and are constructed out of pure fail.

- the new Battlestar Galactica sucks, Bionic Woman sucks even more. Katee Sackhoff cannot act and is not pretty.

- Superman is a better written, more believable, more relatable and more interesting character than Batman. Barely, but still...

- Movies based on books by Nick Hornby are better than the books on which they are based. Even though the books are actually pretty good (Probably no one cares enough about this for this to really be an unpopular opinion)

- Princess Mononoke is Nausica, but better in every way. Also Grave of the Fireflies isn't that depressing, nor is it that good.

(As an aside, mostly to Winterwind: I once got in an argument with a friend of mine who is a huge Star Trek fan, and for some unfathomable reason, likes Voyager the best. When I was explaining why I liked Enterprise better, he said that Enterprise sucked because of its overly Human focus, and its obsession with talking about how awesome Humans are... and I was simply baffled, wondering how it is he missed the Human bias in the last every episode of Star Trek ever!)

[Cubey]

Also Grave of the Fireflies isn't that depressing, nor is it that good.

There's two of us already! Grave of the Fireflies is overrated, and everything bad that happens to the kids after the initial bombardment is THEIR OWN FAULT.


Now, A 300-related rant.

I liked the movie. I don't care if it was pro-US propaganda, a machismo machine, or any other term the critics will spin. However - and I can find hardly anyone from the 300 enthusiasts who shares this opinion, the role of the spartan queen (I can't remember her name, not that she deserves me remembering it...) was redundant.
She's not a character, she's a living prop. I don't understand people who go all ooh and aah at how strong or well-written her role is. It's not! She did four things in the movie, FOUR!

1. Stay behind Leonidas so that he can kill the emissary when he somewhat-insults her
2. Making love to Leonidas
3. Whoring herself out to a traitor in hope that he'll convince a band of old grumps to aid her husband
4. Stabbing the aforementioned traitor in a tantrum when he publicly mentioned the aforementioned whoring - the only reason why she didn't get in deep trouble for that is because the traitor was an idiot and carried persian money by himself instead of hiding them somewhere

Well-written my a**. Strong - doubly my a**. Less tantrum-throwing housewives and more kicking arse please.

[Cocky]

Tolkien was a completely overrated writer. As a storyteller, a creator of worlds and indeed modern saga as we know it, he is equalled by very few. As an author however, his prose was dull, lifeless and uninspired. His pacing was ragged, with little sense of timing leading inevitably to a mishmash of plotlines colliding frantically for the readers interest. Perfectly well written of course, nary any literary technicality unobserved, but not 'well written'.

[Closet_Skeleton]

Even comparing it to the Temple of Doom?

Yes, even comparing to the temple of doom.

There's two of us already! Grave of the Fireflies is overrated, and everything bad that happens to the kids after the initial bombardment is THEIR OWN FAULT.

The whole point of Grave of the Fireflies is that it's all their fault.

It's based off a biography a guy wrote in order to apologise for being an absolute idiot who got his sister killed.

[valadil]

Jar Jar didn't ruin Star Wars. Anakin did. Seriously, Jar Jar was dumb and annoying, but he was a bystander. Anakin was supposed to grow into f***ing Darth Vader and ends up with lines like "are you an angel," when he meets Amidalah.

Battlestar sucks.

Firefly is only slightly better.

Pratchett, Goodkind, and Jordan are all collectively inferior to Stephen King.

South Park is the best show on TV. Glad to see I'm not alone on this one.

Pro wrestling gets too much criticism. No it's not intellectual, but it can be fun. I group it with movies like 300. Dumb, violent, fun.

Mel Gibson's older movies are still awesome. I couldn't take him seriously anymore, but I still love Braveheart and Lethal Weapon.

Who ever told Dane Cook he's funny needs to be shot in the face.

Ron Paul is overrated on the internet.

Mencia is no replacement for Chappelle.

Why does Sarah Silverman have her own show? She amuses me in general, but her TV show is just bad.

[Nerd-o-rama]

I hate Seinfeld.

God yes! And Curb Your Enthusiasm, too! What's the big deal about these shows?

[DomaDoma]

Books: I have no desire to read Song of Fire and Ice - it seems to be trying too hard to be dark and gritty, with relative morals, shades of gray and non-sympathetic protagonists everywhere.

This probably makes you better off than those of us who are actually involved with the series. Gad, does it put you through the wringer. I quit midway through book three, because compelling characters be damned, it couldn't be plainer that this man detests hope and idealism in all its forms.

Ron Paul is overrated on the internet.

Wait, the popular opinion is that his Internet poll numbers aren't inflated? I weep.

Now for my own:

"The Last Debate" is one of the best chapters in Return of the King. (I don't know why I think this myself.)

Titanic was a good movie, and Mr. Roberts was the best character.

Pan's Labyrinth was not all in her head. Chalk. Door.

The camping sequence in Deathly Hallows was not only effective, it was an essential component to the entire emotional landscape of the book.