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2024-02-15, 02:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
My instinct has been that O-Chul will die breaking MitD out of the spell
Blackwing's eyes snap back to white once the Runes explode, which isn't what you'd expect if they were simply reflecting the light of the rift. You could interpret that as him looking away, I guess.
I don't think anyone's disputing that Miron seemed to pull Laurin out of the danger zone, but the thinking is that if she touched the Snarl with her mind she might be gone anyways.
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2024-02-15, 06:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
Honestly, I think the reason she was smuggled out of Xykon's army was just to show Right-Eye's cunning and preparation. And maybe because the Giant didn't like the idea of having, you know, one (more) innocent child being killed by Xykon. I certainly couldn't find any reason why she would be involved in the main plot now. It would require explaining her origin for people who didn't read Start of Darkness, and it would be either a coincidence or she would need to have the means and the motivation to find Team Evil (or a member of Team Evil would have the means and the motivation to find her). And I don't know what the payoff would be; neither Redcloak nor the comic itself has given much importance to blood relations.
I also happen to disagree with this one. Even if Xykon can feel when his phylactery is destroyed, why would he immediately assume that it wasn't in his fortress when it could be captured during the fortress' destruction or just floating in empty space? With all its abjurations, that thing might be sturdy enough to survive even a big explosion. The only thing likely to destroy the whole fortress in one strike would be the Snarl, and I don't think "the whole astral plane is destroyed" is a good bet.On a fateful evening, I foolishly sworn myself to follow Xykon's updated speech rule ...thing. The twelve gods know that I regretted my decision ...since then ...multiple times.
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2024-02-15, 02:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
Laurin
See the big panel at the end.
If you are changing your certainty for a maybe, sure, I can go with a might be since we only see the back of her head in 0945.Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2024-02-15 at 02:50 PM.
Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2024-02-15, 03:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2024-02-15, 05:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
It seems, in the post Korvin is responding to, you said "nothingburger." (Whether you remember making that post or not.)
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2024-02-15, 10:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
When we finally get to really meet the Dark One, we will know it's him when he addresses Redcloak by name. His real name.
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2024-02-15, 10:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
Number of times Roland St. Jude has sworn revenge upon me: 2
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2024-02-15, 11:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-02-16, 01:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
That would be pretty cool.
On the other hand, it'd be poignant if the Dark One said: "You know why we don't talk? I saw what you did. You drowned in the Plan to the point you almost abandoned your baby brother, and then you killed him. None of the other bearers betrayed their own like that ... Redcloak."Last edited by Grendelkin; 2024-02-16 at 02:00 AM.
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2024-02-16, 09:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
Second known member of the Greyview Appreciation Society
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2024-02-16, 10:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
Nah that'd be weird and kinda redundant IMO. We already got pretty much that same scene (without so many words) in SoD, and besides, last we heard the Dark One was telling Redcloak to prioritize the Plan
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2024-02-16, 10:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
Hmm, I think that his "don't screw this up" admonition (delivered via Jirix) implied the observation that Redcloak wasn't filling TDO with confidence, and was being observed to have already screwed up (in some fashion) by that point.
But maybe not.Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2024-02-16 at 11:59 AM.
Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
Second known member of the Greyview Appreciation Society
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2024-02-16, 11:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
Yeah, The Dark One could have been a bit clearer as to what he meant by "this" when he delivered his message. Hooray for unclear deitific (deific?)communication.
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2024-02-16, 12:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
Second known member of the Greyview Appreciation Society
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2024-02-16, 12:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
In life, the Dark One was a warlord, a strategic leader who understood the value of diplomacy as well as warfare.
It'd be interesting if seeing the hobgoblin horde seize Azure City awoke some long-dormant aspects of his being, and he can actually see the value of Gobbotopia as equal - or greater - to his people's cause than the Plan, which was born from frustration at the goblinoids' getting a raw deal and his sorrow over the same (not to mention how he lost his own mortal life).
As for Redcloak being in the doghouse with his patron, just look at his track record:
* He's supposed to shepherd all goblins, but he allied with a psychopathic mass-murdering human, then turned him into a lich, which has directly and indirectly caused a lot of goblin deaths. (Admittedly Right-Eye shares some of the blame, but Redcloak stuck with the psycho because of the sunk cost fallacy.)
* He also murdered his own brother in support of said lich - and even if Right-Eye had stopped worshipping the Dark One, he had created a viable community for goblins that lived in peace with nearby humans. Xykon dismantled it so he could use the goblins living there as disposable lackeys. I could see the Dark One having some appreciation for Right-Eye at this point, and being incensed about ex-human Xykon wrecking the goblins' stable lives for his own convenience.
* He used hundreds upon thousands of hobgoblins as disposable lackeys and endangered the stability of their own cities, until he had an epiphany, which was caused by a hobgoblin showing the decency to save his life, rather than him taking a step back to think about what he was doing. 'Sending them off to die like lemmings', indeed.
* And now, when Oona is laying down wisdom and clear warnings, Redcloak is too far up his sunk cost fallacy to take a step back and think about his own actions - again.
Seizing Azure City and making it Gobbotopia was a net win for the goblinoids, but the cost was monstrous. I doubt it's enough to square Redcloak's accounts in the Dark One's books, if the big gob has any true love left for his people.Last edited by Grendelkin; 2024-02-16 at 12:10 PM.
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2024-02-16, 01:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
Second known member of the Greyview Appreciation Society
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2024-02-19, 09:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
I predicted correctly this time! Bloodfeast turned back to their huge dinosaur form.
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2024-02-19, 09:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-02-19, 10:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-02-19, 02:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
TinyMushroom drew my avatarSpoiler: A shaggy dog storyAn evil sorcerer in command of a dark cult is trying to unleash a god-killing abomination more real than the gods themselves. At his side, yellow eyes revealed a Haunter of the Dark. The evil sorcerer ordered it to kill.
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2024-02-20, 03:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
Nope. Opposite.
My guess is that Serini will see O-Chul being friends with the monster in the dark and think that maybe there is hope for human-monster relations. Heck, maybe even Redcloak would see that.
Either way, neither O-Chul nor the monster are going to die.
I don't think Laurin is gone.
A big motif in the story is that we constantly just look at monsters as the bad guys and never hear their side of the story. Literally a few strips ago, Durkon noted that they never bothered asking the goblins why they attacked Azure City.
Clearly this applies double for the Snarl. Nobody at any point tried to think of it as anything but a world devouring abomination. Maybe it can be reasoned with? Maybe it's not so evil? Clearly the gods don't know everything about it since they didn't know about the planet blackwing saw.
At some point, it's possible that the Snarl would need a mouthpiece to speak through and Laurin being connected to it will be able to speak for it.
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2024-02-20, 06:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
That... could be highly interesting, getting the Snarl's POV.
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2024-02-20, 04:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
I hate to bring an awesome scene down*, but...
Bloodfeast will not survive this fight. There's no obvious way for him to be re-polymorphed, and I don't see Rich drawing a huge Allosaurus in every scene of this dungeon unless it was for a specific purpose. Belkar will be much more shaken up by this than his companions.
(*This is obviously untrue. Raining on parades is my hobby.)Last edited by Somniloquist; 2024-02-20 at 04:32 PM.
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2024-02-20, 08:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-02-20, 08:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sure there is: removing him from the Anti-magic Field. AMFs don't dispel, they just suppress. When V drops down they'll have Overland Flight and Mind Blank back up. When Bloodfeast leaves the field he'll be a small lizard again.
Dangit! Three hours after the post and you ninja me by a minute!Last edited by Peelee; 2024-02-20 at 08:39 PM.
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
Number of times Roland St. Jude has sworn revenge upon me: 2
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2024-02-20, 09:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
I'm delighted to stand corrected.
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2024-02-20, 10:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-03-25, 10:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
As of 1300, I submit we will see an enraged Sunny make use of Eye #8. Name your stakes.
Also: side bet 1:3 your favor that #8 turns out to be 'Disentigrate.'
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2024-03-26, 08:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
Is it really a bet when you're sure to win?
On a fateful evening, I foolishly sworn myself to follow Xykon's updated speech rule ...thing. The twelve gods know that I regretted my decision ...since then ...multiple times.
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2024-03-26, 02:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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