Ghostfoot's Variant Rule Playtest [PF1] - level 15 Serpent's Skull

[Ghostfoot]

Oof. Pathfinder knows how to make it hard to grapple especially high levels.

Anyways, can Darren put down another black tentacles field without to catch the remaining two urdefhans that are not in the first one without friendly fire?

He could only catch one of the remaining foes without hitting allies (the other is flanked by Serenity & Azalea)

[Yas392]

Sorry for the delay. Sites got problem when I was about post. Keep getting gateway errors.

Having trouble calculating damage done to Serenity. Does armor reduction applies to sneak attack and bleed?

[Ghostfoot]

Sorry for the delay. Sites got problem when I was about post. Keep getting gateway errors.

Having trouble calculating damage done to Serenity. Does armor reduction applies to sneak attack and bleed?

Yep same here, whenever I sit down with time to post.

Armour should reduce lethal damage on a hit (calculated on the total of base + sneak). Bleed is separate and unaffected by armour.

So eg if a hit does 10 damage + 20 sneak + 3 bleed, armour of 6 would mean it does 24 lethal damage (10 + 20 - 6 = 24) + 3 bleed + 6 nonlethal.

[Yas392]

Serenity lethal damage taken: 44 lethal - 15 healing + 65 lethal = 94 lethal damage.

Serenity non-lethal damage taken: 14 non-lethal - 14 healing + 35 non-lethal = 35 non-lethal damage.

Okay, Serenity's not out like a light. I thought I need to have Halberd use divine interference for re-roll an attack, but I guess I won't need to now. Post will be coming after I figure out Darren's actions.

[Yas392]

Freaking RNG is against me. Change of plans.

Halberd will use Cure Light Wounds, Mass instead and will stand from prone.

Cure Light Wounds, Mass: (1d8+39)[44] x 1.5 = 66 Healed

Screwed up calculation.

Lethal > Non-lethal > HP heal.

Slower healing is a problem: pain to track, hard to get rid off and can KO people if convert to excessive non-lethal damage.

Non-lethal is 50.

[Ghostfoot]

Sorry, I have been out-of-town with no access these last few days. Will catch up in next day or two.

[Yas392]

@Qagzir & @Talivan You guys still working on those sheet?

[samduke]

well not much has happened for a little bit and being as this was more of a test of things , I am going to bow out at this point

[Yas392]

@samduke we are waiting for your move I believe.

[Ghostfoot]

@samduke we are waiting for your move I believe.

Yep. But not to worry we can continue with the experiment if we have players. Site seems to be holding up just fine now.

@Qazgir & @Talivan your characters can join in any time, and your cohorts when ready. Given this is a 'test' I'm not too fussed about breaking continuity.

[Yas392]

@Ghostfoot Will you be controlling samduke's character now that she left? How do you feel about slow healing?

Looking forward to @Qazgir & @Talivan's character if they are still in it.

[Qazgir]

I'll jump in at the end of the fight. Sorry about the lack of input, busy time at work.

[Ghostfoot]

@Ghostfoot Will you be controlling samduke's character now that she left? How do you feel about slow healing?

Let me see what I can do...probably not much value in botting them beyond this fight given the nature of the game

[Yas392]

@ghostfoot How do you feel about the healing? I kind of find the rule concerning and detriment to battle in the long run because if non-lethal HP value is higher than normal HP, you become unconscious.

Forgot CMB for tentacles so rolling them here.

CMB: (1d20+20)[33]

Untyped Damage if grapple succeed: (1d6+4)[7]

EDIT: Eh, forgot that it is 2d10. Doesn't matter now since it is rolled. It has been awhile.

[Ghostfoot]

sorry, a but slammed here now that work has started up again

@ghostfoot How do you feel about the healing? I kind of find the rule concerning and detriment to battle in the long run because if non-lethal HP value is higher than normal HP, you become unconscious.

yeah I expect that you're probably right. Not sure that much healing has really been tried in anger yet but seeing it in action I think Concurrently will work better:

So let's say character with 50hp is down 10 lethal and 10 nonlethal
cast CMW, healing of 15hp
converts all (10hp) lethal to nonlethal
then heals 15hp nonlethal
end situation they are down 0 lethal and 5 nonlethal

vs Sequentially
character with 50hp is down 10 lethal and 10 nonlethal
cast CMW, healing of 15hp
heals 10hp nonlethal
converts 5hp lethal to nonlethal
end situation they are down 5 lethal and 5 nonlethal

vs Normal
character with 50hp is down 10 lethal and 10 nonlethal
cast CMW, healing of 15hp
heals 15hp lethal
heals 15hp nonlethal
end situation they are fully healed

[Yas392]

sorry, a but slammed here now that work has started up again



yeah I expect that you're probably right. Not sure that much healing has really been tried in anger yet but seeing it in action I think Concurrently will work better:

So let's say character with 50hp is down 10 lethal and 10 nonlethal
cast CMW, healing of 15hp
converts all (10hp) lethal to nonlethal
then heals 15hp nonlethal
end situation they are down 0 lethal and 5 nonlethal

vs Sequentially
character with 50hp is down 10 lethal and 10 nonlethal
cast CMW, healing of 15hp
heals 10hp nonlethal
converts 5hp lethal to nonlethal
end situation they are down 5 lethal and 5 nonlethal

vs Normal
character with 50hp is down 10 lethal and 10 nonlethal
cast CMW, healing of 15hp
heals 15hp lethal
heals 15hp nonlethal
end situation they are fully healed

Did heal but tracking maths is the problem (e.g thought cohort healed elemental fully but on re-calculation found out he has a non-lethal damage remaining.) and confusing.

[Ghostfoot]

I'll jump in at the end of the fight. Sorry about the lack of input, busy time at work.

Let's hand-wave the rest of this fight. Not much value in slogging it out with one player while everyone else waits.

[Yas392]

@ghostfoot Can you PM Talivan to see if they are still interested in this game? We haven't heard from them for a while.

[Qazgir]

Here's my cohort, Karn Holdane, I need to prep spells, then I'll be ready.

[Talivan]

Hello guys, cannot find the OOC and IC for this game

[Yas392]

@Talivan This is OOC. IC is here.

[Ghostfoot]

Great, 3 players should be good to kick us off again and see how it plays.

[Yas392]

@Ghostfoot Double checking. The spells my summoner and cleric used on their turn are expended before the battle end, right?

[Ghostfoot]

@Ghostfoot Double checking. The spells my summoner and cleric used on their turn are expended before the battle end, right?

The black tentacles spell? That will still be in effect.

Or Evolution Surge? You can keep that if you wish (ie pretend not cast/ expended)

[Yas392]

The black tentacles spell? That will still be in effect.

Or Evolution Surge? You can keep that if you wish (ie pretend not cast/ expended)

Spells Casted last round before battle is over.

Evolution Surge (Summoner)

Cure Light Wounds, Mass (Cleric)

I will keep those if able.

Will be waiting for others to finish before I move my characters. It feels lonely moving forward by myself.

[Ghostfoot]

Spells Casted last round before battle is over.

Evolution Surge (Summoner)

Cure Light Wounds, Mass (Cleric)

I will keep those if able.

Will be waiting for others to finish before I move my characters. It feels lonely moving forward by myself.

Yes, that's fine to retain those spells.

And yep, let's kick things off again once we have 3 active players. Hard to playtest without a group.

Re: healing. I take it you prefer to revert to standard mechanism for healing spells? We can do that for now. Maybe reintroduce to test later on if the rest is going well.

[Yas392]

Yes, that's fine to retain those spells.

And yep, let's kick things off again once we have 3 active players. Hard to playtest without a group.

Re: healing. I take it you prefer to revert to standard mechanism for healing spells? We can do that for now. Maybe reintroduce to test later on if the rest is going well.

Yeah, I prefer standard.

May I switch my eidolon's armor bonus to AC instead of Natural for testing purpose?

[Qazgir]

Giants finally calmed down enough for me to post, sorry about the delay.

[Yas392]

Posted for scouting.

[Ghostfoot]

I've been having some IT problems during convenient posting windows...all seems fine right this moment, but I have family commitments. Will try to get this going again shortly.