Domino Quartz's Delightfully Quaint Random Banter Thread #248

[LaZodiac]

To be fair, every fey doesn't have to be like that anymore than every vampire has to look like Dracula. Personally, I'm fond of the fey that really lean into surreal weirdness.

Likewise! I'm just thinking of the most base, iconic version of each of these. They're is a ton of versatility in the fey folk, but a lot of folk tend to lean on those reliable standards.

[Form]

I'm used to associating vampires closely with gothic horror, so I prefer them as blood drinking monsters forced to hide in the dark literally and figuratively. They shouldn't go out and... sparkle in the sunlight. It's just too gauche.

To be fair, every fey doesn't have to be like that anymore than every vampire has to look like Dracula. Personally, I'm fond of the fey that really lean into surreal weirdness.

I was thinking of that as well. Sometimes fey are less like fairies and more eldritch in nature. Weird and operating on different moral wavelengths than humans. They're often dangerous not so much because they're evil (though that can be the case too), but because they have alien mindsets.

[Anonymouswizard]

The fey are always a good choice, yeah. But they've got some implicit aesthetic stuff to them that can at times make them feel a bit generic- you've seen one flower-dressed court of dandies demanding proper etiquette, you've seen'em all, you know?

I prefer to dress them as historical nobles and military officers. They just have so much more style than you darling, but it would be rude to point it out.

Yes, that includes bright and clashing colours, not every era was Victoria's mourning.

[Peelee]

To be fair, every fey doesn't have to be like that anymore than every vampire has to look like Dracula. Personally, I'm fond of the fey that really lean into surreal weirdness.

I always hate tellings of Dracula im modern day that still have him in Victorian garb. He was in Victorian clothes in Victorian era because he was stylish and wanted to blend! Dracula blends!

[Rater202]

I was thinking of that as well. Sometimes fey are less like fairies and more eldritch in nature.

Appropriate, given that eldritch is likely derived, etymologically speaking, from "elf."

Lovecraft's squamous monstrosities and abominations that defy human understanding of reality may have dominated the term in modern literature but the phrase originally referred to fae beings.

...Also, this conversation sidestepping into the Fae made me realize that... The witches and demons in The Owl House are more like Fae than demons. They're all weirder than then are malicious, they don't really jive with human sensibilities but are understandable enough, come all over the moral spectrum, and their magic is a mixture of aspects of their strange biology and a connection to nature though that last one has been downplayed...

Stepping lightly, a lot of fairy stories are the results of {scrubbed} which really ****ing appropriate to the Owl House for reasons that are spoilerific.

The Titan, from whom's decaying corpse all life in the Boiling Isles emerged, meanwhile, is basically some kind of primordial animalistic nature god

And now I'm wondering if that's a trend, with non-malicious demons having more in common with fae than actual folkloric demons.

I know it's in of a thing in Japanese works, but that's mostly because "youkai" are more like ghosts or fairies than Western conceptions of demons to begin with.

Does anyone else know of another example of this kind of thing? I'm not just pulling a symbolic association out of my ass, am I?

[Anonymouswizard]

I always hate tellings of Dracula im modern day that still have him in Victorian garb. He was in Victorian clothes in Victorian era because he was stylish and wanted to blend! Dracula blends!

It's fine in Act 1, but he very specifically blends in (and has a moustache) once he's immigrated. Which makes sense, he might have given up blending in once his secret was out.

(I'll also give a pass to any adaptation that goes the Nosferatu route and has him look monstrous.)

[Peelee]

It's fine in Act 1, but he very specifically blends in (and has a moustache) once he's immigrated. Which makes sense, he might have given up blending in once his secret was out.

(I'll also give a pass to any adaptation that goes the Nosferatu route and has him look monstrous.)

Totally fair.

[Bohandas]

While you can totally do that, modern zombie stories tend to be metaphors for more abstract issues. Faceless hoards, mindless consumerism, spreading pandemics...

honestly, vampires-as-antagonist and modern zombies hit a lot of the same themes in different ways

I don't know why movies about the undead don't use them more often as a metaphor for old ideas and institutions that have outstayed their welcome

[Batcathat]

I always hate tellings of Dracula im modern day that still have him in Victorian garb. He was in Victorian clothes in Victorian era because he was stylish and wanted to blend! Dracula blends!

Now I kinda want to see Dracula through the ages. Dracula as a 60s hippie. Dracula as a 90s rapper. Dracula as a 00s hipster.

[Form]

Now I kinda want to see Dracula through the ages. Dracula as a 60s hippie. Dracula as a 90s rapper. Dracula as a 00s hipster.

Oh no. No no no no no no no no. Please no. It'll ruin Dracula for me forever. Out of date gothic Dracula works for me, but all of that? No no no.

[Anonymouswizard]

Now I kinda want to see Dracula through the ages. Dracula as a 60s hippie. Dracula as a 90s rapper. Dracula as a 00s hipster.

And you've made me want it too. Sadly more realistically he'd be in a boring suit, because the people decide this are boring

...Part of me wishes they knew how to turn 'Dracula becomes a Twitch streamer' into a short story, I'm thinking his online handle would be DracInBlack.

[Bohandas]

To be fair, every fey doesn't have to be like that anymore than every vampire has to look like Dracula. Personally, I'm fond of the fey that really lean into surreal weirdness.

Have you ever played white wolf's game Exalted? The fairies there come from their setting's equivalent of the Far Realm

EDIT:
And the vampires and deathknights work for local dead but not dead cthulhu expies

[Peelee]

Now I kinda want to see Dracula through the ages. Dracula as a 60s hippie. Dracula as a 90s rapper. Dracula as a 00s hipster.

Well, high society stylish and blends. As already said, he'd be a suit Dracula, not a hippie Dracula.

[LaZodiac]

I don't know why movies about the undead don't use them more often as a metaphor for old ideas and institutions that have outstayed their welcome

In a round-about sense Warm Bodies does this. Also Shaun of the Dead, kinda. Zom100 also kinda does this!

[Batcathat]

Have you ever played white wolf's game Exalted? The fairies there come from their setting's equivalent of the Far Realm

Sadly not, it's one of those games that I've been curious about for like twenty years but I haven't even read it, much less played it.

Well, high society stylish and blends. As already said, he'd be a suit Dracula, not a hippie Dracula.

That's way less fun, though (especially since in my head, every Dracula still looks like the Bela Lugosi version, just in different clothes).

Now I sort of want to write Dracula as a 2020s tech bro billionaire.

[LaZodiac]

Now I sort of want to write Dracula as a 2020s tech bro billionaire.

This is absolutely what a modern Dracula would be- and probably already is. You cannot convince me the weirdo grifter in charge of Theranos wasn't a vampire. I mean look at her.

[Batcathat]

This is absolutely what a modern Dracula would be- and probably already is. You cannot convince me the weirdo grifter in charge of Theranos wasn't a vampire. I mean look at her.

Her plan was actually to invent a method to fully feed a vampire on a single drop of blood.

[Anonymouswizard]

In a round-about sense Warm Bodies does this. Also Shaun of the Dead, kinda. Zom100 also kinda does this!

And possibly Cockneys Vs Zombies, although it's hidden by the riveting 'zombie versus walking frame' action.

This is absolutely what a modern Dracula would be- and probably already is. You cannot convince me the weirdo grifter in charge of Theranos wasn't a vampire. I mean look at her.

I dunno, I kind of want Dracula in a little black dress...

[LaZodiac]

And possibly Cockneys Vs Zombies, although it's hidden by the riveting 'zombie versus walking frame' action.



I dunno, I kind of want Dracula in a little black dress...

You'd probably enjoy the anime and manga "Call of the Night" then.

[Anonymouswizard]

You'd probably enjoy the anime and manga "Call of the Night" then.

...

The Dracula is a physical adult, right?

[LaZodiac]

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The Dracula is a physical adult, right?

As far as I'm aware (I haven't seen it myself just know about it) the main vampire in that series is 30-40 (she's not fully sure, since she was born a vampire).

[Anonymouswizard]

As far as I'm aware (I haven't seen it myself just know about it) the main vampire in that series is 30-40 (she's not fully sure, since she was born a vampire).

Good, I was worried this was going to get icky.

...all of this talk is making me want to restart Wrath of the Righteous as a Damphir, so I can go Azata and be a fairy/vampire!

[Bartmanhomer]

Dracula is an adult as far as I can tell.

Anyway, my morality has been growing I'm very kind to people and I can't stand nasty people. In the past, I've been very unstable, nasty, and been very violent with my actions. However, I got treatment, I took my medication, and I have wonderful support with Men''s Group Therapy. I have an older brother who supports me. And my life is good. The reason why I'm saying this stuff is because of who I am and what I'm about. But I guess some of you know me very well.

[TaiLiu]

Generally, non-Americans think most of America is smaller than it is. Decades ago i had some cousins come to visit. My parents had plans to take them to New York City for a bit. One of the days, my cousins asked id they could go see DC for the day. Really, that's doable, but you'd need to plan it out in advance to really see anything - it's about a 4 hour train ride if you go the economical route, 60-90 minutes by plane but that doesn't count for the security checkpoint time and the cost is a lot higher. They thought it would just be an hour or two drive, far but easily day-trippable spur of the moment.

And don't even get me started on Texas. We were lucky to go through the top hat (such a better name than panhandle). Texas is MASSIVE. It's bigger than France.

If you're going to spend 3 and a half days in this, you'd best really like the other person in it with you. Fortunately, we're great friends, so it was great! Plus, now I've road tripped literally coast to coast, so bonus points there.

Imean, many other New Yorkers said it felt like a small bomb or a subway accident or a gas main or water main blowing, so "i thought it was the end of the world" does seem melodramatic to me.

At the very least, the size of the moon and the distance of both rhe sun from the planet and the moon from the planet lining up so that the sun and moon are both right about the same relative size is an insane coincidence. I think Earth is the only known planet to have that occur, but i could be wrong on that.

Yeah, it takes an hour or two just to travel from one end of NYC to the other. If it was decades ago I wonder if that was pre-9/11. Cuz if it was then maybe the airport security wouldn't have been a big issue and maybe it could have been an expensive day trip.

Really? Wow, I had no idea. I wonder if that's why the idea of the American road trip exists but there isn't an equivalent for France or the UK.

Nice. I'm glad you had a good time and a cool experience.

I think it makes sense to think of the earthquake as something grave. A subway accident or an explosion wouldn't cause continuous shaking, so I dunno why people would think that. I personally wouldn't interpret it as the end of the world, but experiencing an earthquake somewhere not earthquake-prone is super scary.

That's true. Apparently the moon is getting further away from Earth, so future species won't get to see total eclipses anymore. I wonder if they'll mind. I think only humans consider total eclipses significant.

I can't spoil the exaaact reason why, but I'll say it is because, due to the cosmology of the setting, it is fundamentally impossible for the sun and moon to overlap. They are always equidistant from each other. It's also why the moon has no phases, instead being a full sphere always.

Oh, neat!

But if you're going with "mythologically accurate zombies" then zombies are pretty clearly an allegory for chattel slavery.

Yeah. The etymology of zombie is African in origin and the idea of the zombie comes from slavery-era Haiti.

...all of this talk is making me want to restart Wrath of the Righteous as a Damphir, so I can go Azata and be a fairy/vampire!

I loved being an Azata in P: WOTR. It's such a power trip.

Anyway, my morality has been growing I'm very kind to people and I can't stand nasty people. In the past, I've been very unstable, nasty, and been very violent with my actions. However, I got treatment, I took my medication, and I have wonderful support with Men''s Group Therapy. I have an older brother who supports me. And my life is good. The reason why I'm saying this stuff is because of who I am and what I'm about. But I guess some of you know me very well.

Nice! I'm happy for you, Bartmanhomer.

I'm also trying to be a better and more stable person. It's hard for sure.

[Bartmanhomer]

Nice! I'm happy for you, Bartmanhomer.

I'm also trying to be a better and more stable person. It's hard for sure.

That’s great, bestie.

[TaiLiu]

That’s great, bestie.

Thanks.

[Bartmanhomer]

Thanks.

You're welcome.

Anyway, my staff member from my job and I went to Starbucks yesterday is working hard magic (magic as in persuasion) trying to get me a job to work there. Bonus points the Starbucks is near my house.

[TaiLiu]

You're welcome.

Anyway, my staff member from my job and I went to Starbucks yesterday is working hard magic (magic as in persuasion) trying to get me a job to work there. Bonus points the Starbucks is near my house.

I hope you get hired! Best of luck.

[Bartmanhomer]

I hope you get hired! Best of luck.

Thanks friend.

I've been slacking off my writing to focus other important things in my life. But I will write again.

[Anonymouswizard]

Dracula is an adult as far as I can tell.

Translation of my original post: please tell me they're not a bloody lolipire.

I loved being an Azata in P: WOTR. It's such a power trip.

Oh, Azata is wonderful, partially because real oddball PCs fit right at home in it but it is following an internal logic much more than Trickster. I was going to take an Aasimar Sword Saint through it but I've restarted as a Damphir Rogue (Knife Master) with Blood Drinker, and might restart or respec to change deity to Desna.

Or I might just play Rogue Trader for a bit