Domino Quartz's Delightfully Quaint Random Banter Thread #248

[Peelee]

Your UK government quote technically contradicts your statement

No it doesn't. It's just a conveniently written acknowledgement of what you are generally called and known by, issued by the state (the legal authority).

But hey, neither of us are legal professionals. Let's see whaty British legal professionals have to say about it.

Italics original.

Changing your name is a legal matter, which means there isn’t an “official” place where you go to register a change of name.

Again, that the UK has very convenient and lax mechanisms for changing your legal name does not mean that you don't have a legal name. You do. It's just much less legislated than in other countries.

[halfeye]

It used to be that you had to mess around with "deed polls" whatever they were. I don't know why it changed.

[Anonymouswizard]

It used to be that you had to mess around with "deed polls" whatever they were. I don't know why it changed.

A deed poll is a piece of paper two people have signed which states you're abandoning one name and taking up another.

[BisectedBrioche]

Strictly speaking, deed polls are as binding as they always were.

I got one when I changed my name because having an official looking document for it makes life way easier.

[LaZodiac]

... so what I'm gathering is that my experience of "pay the government like 50 bucks" was not the norm in terms of how easy it was to change my name, huh.

[Peelee]

... so what I'm gathering is that my experience of "pay the government like 50 bucks" was not the norm in terms of how easy it was to change my name, huh.

Depends on where you live. The norm in the Principality of Peelee could be very different from the norm in the Zodi Zones, and they could both be outliers in the generals global trends.

[tyckspoon]

... so what I'm gathering is that my experience of "pay the government like 50 bucks" was not the norm in terms of how easy it was to change my name, huh.

Here, it's 'file with a local court that you intend to do so, publish your upcoming name change in a local paper for a period of two weeks advance notice, go before the court and swear to the judge that you are not changing your name for any criminal or malicious purposes, get your signed order recognizing your name change, now you get to go convince all the other records keeping agencies to update your name of record." Cost ~300ish dollars, IIRC, between the court and document fees and the cost to publish the notice with the cheapest qualifying local paper we could find at the time (a little local business gossip thing that I suspect operates almost entirely off name-change notifications and probably just being somebody's retirement hobby.) Might be cheaper now especially if they bowed to the inevitability of the future and let some online platforms qualify for posting notice.

[Bohandas]

Is this conversation making anyone else think of the intro from The Prisoner?

[Anonymouswizard]

... so what I'm gathering is that my experience of "pay the government like 50 bucks" was not the norm in terms of how easy it was to change my name, huh.

As people have said it's variable, over here it's annoying because while you can change your name for free if you want it to be legally enforceable you need to pay a solicitor to work everything out.

[Bartmanhomer]

Hey everyone. I got some bad news to tell you: I didn't get the job. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[LaZodiac]

Depends on where you live. The norm in the Principality of Peelee could be very different from the norm in the Zodi Zones, and they could both be outliers in the generals global trends.

True enough, but I do forget sometimes how wildly different it can be.

Here, it's 'file with a local court that you intend to do so, publish your upcoming name change in a local paper for a period of two weeks advance notice, go before the court and swear to the judge that you are not changing your name for any criminal or malicious purposes, get your signed order recognizing your name change, now you get to go convince all the other records keeping agencies to update your name of record." Cost ~300ish dollars, IIRC, between the court and document fees and the cost to publish the notice with the cheapest qualifying local paper we could find at the time (a little local business gossip thing that I suspect operates almost entirely off name-change notifications and probably just being somebody's retirement hobby.) Might be cheaper now especially if they bowed to the inevitability of the future and let some online platforms qualify for posting notice.

This is absurd to the point of genuinely being torture and I hope everyone involved [has a bad sleep].

[Batcathat]

I've never had reason to look into it, but from my understanding the process here in Sweden is fairly simple though the government do have to approve of the name itself, which mean it might get rejected (basically, any existing name is almost certainly fine, even if it's an unusual one, but some more out there suggestions get shot down).

[Aedilred]

No it doesn't. It's just a conveniently written acknowledgement of what you are generally called and known by, issued by the state (the legal authority).

But hey, neither of us are legal professionals. Let's see whaty British legal professionals have to say about it.

Italics original.
Again, that the UK has very convenient and lax mechanisms for changing your legal name does not mean that you don't have a legal name. You do. It's just much less legislated than in other countries.

I am a British legal professional; however, the forum rules prohibit me from giving legal advice here, so I will leave you all to argue.

[Manga Shoggoth]

I am a British legal professional; however, the forum rules prohibit me from giving legal advice here, so I will leave you all to argue.

Don't forget to order popcorn for while you watch.

[Anonymouswizard]

Hey everyone. I got some bad news to tell you: I didn't get the job. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

We've told you before, you're nowhere near ugly enough to hide under bridges and tax passing goats!

This is absurd to the point of genuinely being torture and I hope everyone involved [has a bad sleep].

Honestly the idea that changing your name should require ANY effort makes me appalled. You could end up being called Eustace Clarence Scrubb with no way out!


Had a chat with a couple of friends about my reluctance to ask for a GIC appointment, because I know they'll ask the weird questions. Their point that it's an issue for twenty seven years older me is both reassuring and distressing...

[LaZodiac]

We've told you before, you're nowhere near ugly enough to hide under bridges and tax passing goats!



Honestly the idea that changing your name should require ANY effort makes me appalled. You could end up being called Eustace Clarence Scrubb with no way out!


Had a chat with a couple of friends about my reluctance to ask for a GIC appointment, because I know they'll ask the weird questions. Their point that it's an issue for twenty seven years older me is both reassuring and distressing...

Honestly everyone deserves at least one(1) free name change on the assumption that you might just not **** with what your parents called you. Like sorry folks but sometimes you don't know what to name your children and it Sucks.

[DavidSh]

Anybody else in range of this morning's northeast US earthquake?

[Bartmanhomer]

Anybody else in range of this morning's northeast US earthquake?

I did. I thought the earthquake was the end of the world. I'm not joking

[DavidSh]

Aftershock just now, maybe 8% of the first one.

[Tarmor]

I did. I thought the earthquake was the end of the world. I'm not joking

That was only 4.8, but enough to be very disturbing. It's good to hear that it doesn't sound like there were any deaths or major damage.
Much worse in Taiwan earlier this week. Close friends have family there, but thankfully they live on the western side and are all fine.

[Peelee]

I am a British legal professional; however, the forum rules prohibit me from giving legal advice here, so I will leave you all to argue.

This amuses me. Cheers!

I did. I thought the earthquake was the end of the world. I'm not joking

That seems more than a bit melodramatic.

[Bartmanhomer]

That was only 4.8, but enough to be very disturbing. It's good to hear that it doesn't sound like there were any deaths or major damage.
Much worse in Taiwan earlier this week. Close friends have family there, but thankfully they live on the western side and are all fine.

4.8. That was very disturbing indeed. This is the first time I've experienced an actual earthquake in New York City which is very rare by away.

[Peelee]

4.8. That was very disturbing indeed. This is the first time I've experienced an actual earthquake in New York City which is very rare by away.

There was an earthquake in 2023 and 2011 that could have been felt in New York. Haven't you lived there all your life?

[DavidSh]

There was an earthquake in 2023 and 2011 that could have been felt in New York. Haven't you lived there all your life?

2011 must be the August 23 Virginia earthquake that could be felt pretty far away. What earthquake were you thinking of from 2023?

[Anonymouswizard]

There was an earthquake in 2023 and 2011 that could have been felt in New York. Haven't you lived there all your life?

What time was that? I've slept through an earthquake before.

[Peelee]

2011 must be the August 23 Virginia earthquake that could be felt pretty far away. What earthquake were you thinking of from 2023?

Was mistaken about 2023, that one was in Buffalo. M3.8 so probably couldn't be felt in NYC.

[TaiLiu]

Speak for yourself. I'm a FLOWER.

Social flower, then.

It's a weird day when you find yourself Googling 'can you get pregnant while pregnant'. For the record yes, and I'm definitely not the first person who searched for that.

You can? I didn't know that. I was under the impression that you couldn't.

Well, I'm very calm today and I wrote Chapter 5 of my D&D: The Dragoon Family story early this morning.

Nice.

I'm back, baby! I apologize to all who missed me. Among other things that were going on, i had a trip from Birmingham to a Richmond by way of San Diego. That was a fun three days.

Did you intend to travel like that? Cuz I thought Birmingham and Richmond were relatively close.

Heck, naming laws are loose enough here that I could name a kid 'Help I'm Stuck In A Passport Factory'. Which is probably another reason that I should never raise any.

That's so funny. The UK is like the opposite of Iceland.

Here, it's 'file with a local court that you intend to do so, publish your upcoming name change in a local paper for a period of two weeks advance notice, go before the court and swear to the judge that you are not changing your name for any criminal or malicious purposes, get your signed order recognizing your name change, now you get to go convince all the other records keeping agencies to update your name of record." Cost ~300ish dollars, IIRC, between the court and document fees and the cost to publish the notice with the cheapest qualifying local paper we could find at the time (a little local business gossip thing that I suspect operates almost entirely off name-change notifications and probably just being somebody's retirement hobby.) Might be cheaper now especially if they bowed to the inevitability of the future and let some online platforms qualify for posting notice.

This is absurd to the point of genuinely being torture and I hope everyone involved [has a bad sleep].

I've a trans friend who lives in Oklahoma, a center of US transphobia. They've had to go through this torturous process and then be struck down by the presiding judge for nonsense reasons. Pretty infuriating.

I prefer the local print paper over online platforms for displaying name changes. I don't need to have my deadname associated with me online.

Hey everyone. I got some bad news to tell you: I didn't get the job. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

That sucks. I hope your other job interviews go better.

4.8. That was very disturbing indeed. This is the first time I've experienced an actual earthquake in New York City which is very rare by away.

There was an earthquake in 2023 and 2011 that could have been felt in New York. Haven't you lived there all your life?

I think this is really mean to Bartmanhomer. 2011 was 13 years ago. Also, maybe he didn't notice it, was on vacation, or avoided it otherwise.

[enderlord99]

We're social multicellular eukaryotes.

[TaiLiu]

We're social multicellular eukaryotes.

So true.

I wonder how sophisticated a single-cell organism can get. Could social unicellular organisms exist? :O

[Manga Shoggoth]

I wonder how sophisticated a single-cell organism can get. Could social unicellular organisms exist? :O

Have you just described a sponge? I'm not sure how close to "single-cell" they are...

A quick search for "social unicellular organism" shows quite a few papers (I haven't gone in to detail) on the subject, so it is quite likey that they do...