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2024-04-23, 02:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Unfrosted _ a movie about Pop Tarts
Within the last year, the man who basically invented the Pop Tart passed away. We had a pop tart morning at the office to commemorate this 1960's era breakfast food that has lasted a while.
Jerry Seinfeld is directing Unfrosted, a fictional movie about the origin of the Pop Tart. Jerry, having now gotten into the movie business, has a few things of interest to say about it.
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What do you all think. Is he on to something?Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2024-04-23 at 02:45 PM.
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2024-04-23, 03:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unfrosted _ a movie about Pop Tarts
"It was totally new to me. I thought I had done some cool stuff, but it was nothing like the way these people work," Seinfeld said. "They're so dead serious! They don't have any idea that the movie business is over. They have no idea."
- I've never worked in film.
- I have massive respect for people who work in film.
- Film people are deluded about the death of their artform.
What a zero-to-sixty quote. Taking his quote at face value, it seems like a textbook case of being brand new to an artform or field of study and deciding you've seen enough to make broad, sweeping judgments about it.
Keep in mind I'm not defending movies from the Big, Scary Seinfeld. I don't have a horse in this race -- I even kind of agree with him about their decrease in cultural relevance (for certain cases). But he still strikes me as unnecessarily aggressive about a thing he doesn't know very well.
Originally Posted by KorvinStarmast
Somebody noticed a cultural trend and is trying to apply a moral judgment or philosophy to it. Same story, different day.
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Incidentally: I do think that movies aren't the widespread social activity they used to be. Streaming was already affecting that (e.g. not trying to see it in theatres since it'll be out on streaming soon enough), and social distancing dealt it another big blow.
Which is a shame, because some of my favorite watch experiences have been in theatres. Dune Part II and Everything, Everywhere, All At Once were both phenomenal to watch as part of a crowd -- the former for the sheer awe, the latter for the laughter and communal chaos. I remember other popular watches similarly -- you felt like you were part of an event. Live theatre is even better at this. Seeing Hadestown in a sold out theatre was a spectacular experience, enhanced by the people onstage being real people alongside the people around me in the audience. The energy is totally different and well worth it.
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2024-04-23, 03:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unfrosted _ a movie about Pop Tarts
No, he's not.
Not even getting into how his own narcissism drives this, it is observably false.
He says that film is no longer the pinnacle, and somehow claims that stand-up comedy is. And he says that this can be seen because people used to all see the good movies, and talk about them, and quote them. I'd argue that it was never about the movies being "good", but about movies being popular, which isn't the same. But, yes, people used to always talk about the big movies, quote them and discuss them ad naseum. Thing is, they still do that.
Let's just talk last year. Anyone remember Barbiheimer? Of course, you do. Everyone talked about both of them. Many people went to double features of the two. Tons of people dressed in pink. There were articles about the hidden depths of Barbie, about whether it was a feminist movie or not. There were articles about how people should think about Oppenheimer, what it tells us about America, about how it was being received in Japan.
Or how about Sound of Freedom? Boy did that movie drive a bunch of conversations that aren't really appropriate here.
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2024-04-23, 04:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unfrosted _ a movie about Pop Tarts
I am not sure if I read between the lines on his points correctly, but for some reason the recent actors strike and the issue with AI versus Creatives may be lurking in the background of his observations...and the of course he blows his own horn on stand up because AI can't do that.
And I may be waaaay off the mark in that regard.
I am still going to see his movie: Pop Tarts are a cultural touchstone from my youth.Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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