Arena Tournament, Round 19 Finals: Zelandros vs. Shirmish - Final Match

[Mavian]

@Morbius

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Not so my friend. Readying isn't actually an action at all.

Readying an Action

You can ready a standard action, a move action, or a free action. To do so, specify the action you will take and the conditions under which you will take it. Then, any time before your next action, you may take the readied action in response to that condition.

Most people never ready move actions, but it doesn't mean that it can't be done.

[Morbius]

Ref Morbius


Mavian

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I (and the SRD) disagree. Just above what you quoted there is this:

Ready

The ready action lets you prepare to take an action later, after your turn is over but before your next one has begun. Readying is a standard action. It does not provoke an attack of opportunity (though the action that you ready might do so)...

[Mavian]

@Morb

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The chances of it even mattering are slim to nil, but just completely ignore the ready action then. Because I don't really need it. Was just trying to find something to do with an extra move action.

[Bronz]

*feels left out*

So...there still discussions going on or we getting on with the match? Kind of curious what you're attempting now.

[Morbius]

Ref Morbius


Sorry for that Bronz. Shirmish is up

[Bronz]

Then can I have an LoS check?

[Morbius]

Ref Morbius


My bad

Zelandros

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No LoS

Shirmish
Zelandros

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You see the door you just closed opening again

[Bronz]

Shirmish - round 21 9/10 before meteor

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Standard: Shut the door again heh.
Move and swift(travel devotion): Move to K21

End turn. Just gonna say you see the door close again. Your go.


Stats!

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HP: 11
AC: 22 (+2 Shield of Faith)
Current Buffs: Prot from Evil 10/10, Shield of Faith 16/20, Travel Devotion 2/10
Current Location: J20

[Mavian]

Zelandros

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Standard Action: Open Door

Move Action: K8 to N10

Free Action: Drop prone

End of Turn

Stats:

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HP: 7
AC: 11
Speed: 30
Position: Prone in N10
Immediate Magic: 0/4
Spells:
0th: 4x Acid Splash
1st: 1x Rapid Summon Monster 1, 1x Rapid Create Trap, 2x Lesser Orb of Acid

[Bayar]

Ref Bayar

Zelandros

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No LOS

Shirmish

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No LOS

[Bronz]

Shirmish - round 22 10/10 before meteor - It seems our activities will be judged after this round.

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Swift: Move to N20.
Standard: Open the door if it is still closed. Close it if it is open.
Move: Move to P21

End turn.

Stats!

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HP: 11
AC: 22 (+2 Shield of Faith)
Current Buffs: Prot from Evil 10/10, Shield of Faith 17/20, Travel Devotion 3/10
Current Location: J20

[Bayar]

Ref Bayar

Zelandros

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You see the south door opening

Shirmish

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The door was closed, you opened it.
No LOS

[Bigmac]

Um bayer, and other refs as neceassary

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Zelandros OPENED the door and fell prone with his last action, so it should have been open, and I believe that there should have been LoS at some point (I can't access the map right now or I would tell you one way or the other)

Players, disregard the last post by bayer. Might want to get another ref to check actions / LoS (I'm away from map at the moment).

[Paladin Latham]

Actually Bayar's call was sound. It was different doors. Hope that wasn't a spoiler or anything.

[Bayar]

Um bayer, and other refs as neceassary

Players, disregard the last post by bayer.

@Bigmac

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Shirmish closed the door again, and opened the door at the bottom...

Actually...the pharmaceutical company is someone else...I am Bayar.

[Mavian]

Zelandros:

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Move Action: Stand Up
Standard Action: Cast a Rapid Summon Monster 1.
Summoning a Celestial Giant Fire Beetle in N17
Beetle Stats:

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CELESTIAL GIANT FIRE BEETLE
Small Magical Beast (Extraplanar)
Hit Dice: 1d8 (6 hp)
Initiative: +0
Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares)
Armor Class: 16 (+1 size, +5 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 16
Base Attack/Grapple: +0/-4
Attack: Bite +3 melee (2d4+2)
Full Attack: Bite +3 melee (2d4+2)
Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Smite Evil 1/day (+1 damage)
Special Qualities: Darkvision 60 ft., vermin traits, Acid, Cold and Electricity Resistance 5, Spell Resistance 6
Saves: Fort +2, Ref +0, Will +0
Abilities: Str 14, Dex 11, Con 15, Int 3, Wis 10, Cha 7
Skills: -
Feats: -
Environment: Blessed Fields of Elysium
Organization: Cluster (1-5) or colony (6-11)
Challenge Rating: 1/3
Treasure: None
Alignment: Always Neutral Good
Advancement: 2-3 HD (Small)
Level Adjustment: -

Free Action: Drop Prone

Beetles Action:
The beetle is going to use a move action to go out the south door to N20, which is 20 feet, if he can see Shirmish, he's going to move to attack, if not. He's going to double move to R21.
If he doesn't see Shirmish on that side of the barn, he's going to use the last of his movement to head back to 021
Beetles Attacks: If Nessesary

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Attack: (1d20+3)[10]
Damage: (2d4+2)[8]

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Stats for Refs:

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HP: 7
AC: 11
Speed: 30
Position: Prone in N10
Immediate Magic: 0/4
Spells:
0th: 4x Acid Splash
1st: 1x Rapid Summon Monster 1, 1x Rapid Create Trap, 2x Lesser Orb of Acid

[theterran]

Ref Terran

@Zel

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No LoS

@Shirmish

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You see a beatle come out of the door in N20 and stop in K20, but it doesn't attack.

@other Refs

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I figured the logical thing would be to have the beatle move up to Shirmish, eventhough it cannot attack.

I believe it's Shirmishes Turn, although I'm not sure what this meteor thing is...and I'm too lazy to read back to figure it out.

[Paladin Latham]

I'm willing to let them continue, seeing as how something is finally happening.

[Bronz]

@refs

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Can I tell if the beetle came OUT of the door, or appeared outside the door?

Essentially did it walk through N20 or did it appear outside N20.

[Talic]

Initiate Ref Talic

Zelandros

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No LoS

Shirmish

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The Beetle walked to N20. It was not summoned in that square. Initial ref was correct, it traveled out of the barn. You gained LoS of it at N20, as it moved in from N19.

No LoS of opponent.

[Bronz]

@Talic, other refs

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That's not what I asked, and there is LoS to a beetle for Shirmish. I need to know if that beetle came walking out the door or if it appeared outside.

Edit: Thanks!

[Bronz]

Shirmish - round 23

@refs

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I just noticed that my stats block said a different location that I was in. I will assume the beetle walked up to me instead of away from me, as that makes the most sense concerning Terran's comments

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Swift: Activate Law Devotion(Defense)
Standard: Total Defense
Move: Move from P21 to O19, turn not done and need LoS. Beetle gets AoO as I ignore it to move around it.

Turn not done.

Stats!

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HP: 11
AC: 29 (+2 Shield of Faith, +3Law, +4 Full Defense)
Current Buffs: Prot from Evil 10/10, Shield of Faith 18/20, Travel Devotion 4/10, Law Devotion 1/10
Current Location: J20

[theterran]

Ref Terran

@Zel

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Roll an AoO for your Beatle

@Shirm

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No LoS

@Other Refs

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I know that Shirmish can't see Zel because Zel has total cover from lying in the hay, but can Zel see Shirmish in O19 even though he's lying in the hay?

Basically, does total cover work both ways?

[Mavian]

@Terran

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Attack: (1d20+3)[22]
Damage: (2d4+2)[6]

[Bronz]

Shirmish round cont'd

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finish move at P18.

End turn.

[Talic]

Initiate Ref Talic

@terran, other refs:

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According to another map, where hay was ruled to function like this one, dropping prone blocks LoS both ways. Precedent is here.

The Beetle was summoned in N17. When refs read Bronz's stat block, we saw a stat block posting of location that was inconsistent with the last move posted. Beetle moved to the location that we thought Bronz in, per mavian's instructions, and ref guidance (the players did not have LoS to each other). Bronz realized error, and offered replacement of beetle based on corrected information. That would put beetle in O21 (closest point it could enter melee range. I don't see any mechanical advantage from the reposition, but it's beyond my power as a ref to retcon that. Bronz's most recent move is based on that assumption, and I just wanted to get it cleared, before we continue.

Hold a second, while I try and get a higher ref.

[theterran]

Ref Terran

@Talic/Refs

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Here are the orders given my Mavian to the beatle

Beetles Action:
The beetle is going to use a move action to go out the south door to N20, which is 20 feet, if he can see Shirmish, he's going to move to attack, if not. He's going to double move to R21.

So the Beatle, would have not seen him originally, but would have when it turned the corner, and would have stopped...so I think we're good having the beatle in O21.

On another note, can Zel hear Shirmish enter the barn?

@Bronz

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No LoS

@Mavian

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No LoS

[Mavian]

Is it my turn then?

[Bronz]

Well, it isn't mine, that's for sure.

[Mavian]

Well, in that case, I'll go.

Zelandros

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Beetle will chase after Shirmish. I'm assuming since I was asked to roll an AoO that he can manage to follow him. If he gets withing range, he'll take another bite.

Attack: (1d20+3)[17]
Damage: (2d4+2)[5]

As for Z
This also means that Shirmish was close to the south door of the barn. So my turn will depend on LoS after I stand up
Move Action: Stand Up from prone

Not done, Need a LoS check.