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    Gaia:

    The Gaian military on Agamemnon and the Gaian navy will go with the liberation forces to Kharta. These forces will catch a ride on Agamemnoni spacecraft to leave Gaian spacecraft free for non-military uses.

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    Army 2
    Navy 2
    Air 2
    Space 2
    Population 2.42
    Economy 5
    Resources 3
    Spy 1
    Tech 5
    Civil 4
    Nuclear 1
    Defences 2


    Trade (Turn 4):
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    Agamemnon 3:3
    Olympia 1:1


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    Wealth = 14 (2 pop, 5 econ, 3 resources, 3 wealth, 1 saved from turn 1)
    Upkeep = 6
    Spending = 8 (6 to improve spy by 3, and 2 to improve economy by 1)


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    Primary - Genome Mapping +8 = 16
    Secondary - Advanced Metallurgy +2 (4? since its known?) = 4 (6?)
    Tertiary - Everything else = 1


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    2 points of Civil spent in removing 2 points of unrest and 1 point of Civil spent removing 1 point corruption.
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    Battle for Kharta

    The wave of sabotage acts continues as the satellites and cannons of the Khartan Space Defence Network are taken out one by one, only minutes before waves of landing shuttles make planetfall.
    The combined fleets, battalions and air forces of Leonas, Aseio, Olympia and Agamemnon take out most of the defenceless Khartan Navy and Air Force.
    Mutinies break out, while the more pragmatic captains and commanders simply give up in the face of the overwhelming odds, as the Khartan Navy is outnumbered 5:1 by invading forces and severely hampered by acts of sabotage.
    On the ground, large stretches of land are secured in only days, small pockets of civilian resistance overwhelmed. Most of the population is either protected or evacuated by the invasion forces, who manage to take all major population centers in only three weeks without any major losses.
    When the dust of the initial strike settles, the Khartan Forces are mostly imprisoned and disarmed. What little remains is overstrained by the task of defending the Rest of Kharta and it's government.

    Kharta is overwhelmed. Advancing Ground Forces occupy now 11% of all territory, giving them control over 1 point of civil and 1 point of population.
    Kharta has 0.17 Air and 0.59 Navy left.
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    Results Leaked!

    On all the lunar equivalents of the internet, suddenly a huge amount of data appeared: sheer endless series of raw data, comments and examinations by scientists, apparently from more than one moon, all leaked on the net. Taken together, with only a little analysis by every moon's own scientists, getting the picture is easy: they detail the habitability of Theia.

    All habitability data of Theia by all moons is leaked. Theia has: 2 Gravity, 3 temperature, 0 water, 0 athmosphere, for a total habitability of 5

    The data is coupled with a short message:
    "This data has been freed by the Theian Information Freedom Society"
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    Nifelheim breaks trade agreement with Kartha

    In the light of recent events, The High Council has decided to break all trade relations with Kartha. New trade agreements will be established soon, beginning with Agamemnon whom has already signed a deal.
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    Agamemnon, Olympia Draft Colonization Accords

    Diplomats from both moons have been discussing the idea of civilizing the land grab that has become the Theian system's colonization effort. They've come up with the following terms of a treaty, which they both plan to sign, that they feel would greatly smooth the process and reduce tension between moons.

    1) Each faction may claim only one mass (moon, planet, etc.) for colonization at a time. No other moon may make the same claim before this claim has expired.
    2) Claims last 2 years, during which the claimant can settle the body.
    3) If the claimant doesn't land 1 civil and 1 economy in 2 years, they lose the claim and can't make the same claim for 1 year.
    4) After the claimant lands 1 civil and 1 economy, the claim won't expire.
    5) The claimant can't make another claim until they've moved at least 1 point population to the colony.

    Emperor Agamemnon XLVIII signs the treaty, and invites all the other Theian moons to sign on, as well.

    Bureaucracy Announces Claim on Moon IV

    The Bureaucrats feel that they can keep Agamemnon great without overly punishing the Khartan people for actions of their government. With this in mind, they ask that the other Theian moons respect their claim, which they plan to back up this year, in exchange for much less punishing terms on Kharta.

    When asked what those terms were, Bureaucrats mentioned that the treaty was still being debated by the Coalition.

    Agamemnon Welcomes T.I.C. Economic Headquarters

    With this new partnership the Economy of Agamemnon as a whole has surpassed that of all other Theian moons, and the Emperor looks forward a new era of prosperity for both the people of Agamemnon and the rest of the system.
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    Turn 3, Kharta

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    sorry for the lateness of this, I actually forgot that I hadn't done it yet, sigh.

    Power
    Army 0
    Navy 2
    Air 0.89
    Spy 3
    Nuclear 0
    Defences 2

    Wealth
    Population 2.42
    Economy 4
    Resources 3

    Social
    Tech 3
    Civil 3
    Space 5

    Trade :
    2:3 Helia
    3:3 Nifelheim

    Upkeep : 6
    Income : 9 + 5 - 5 = 8


    Worried about the signs of impending invasion, Khartan high command begins training its populace in resistance techniques, and concealing powerful weapons in unlikely locations.

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    Civil :
    1x6 (handled)

    Tech :
    Primary : Metallurgy (11) + 6
    Secondary : Molecular Engineering (5) + 3
    Tertiary : (1) + 2

    2 points espionage (spy = 4)
    2 points army
    4 points WMD

    counterespionage
    primary prevent : 8
    secondary uncover : 4
    tertiary : 2
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    Turn 4

    Unrest and Corruption: 3 points, countered

    Tech:
    Primary: Deep Crust Mining +14 (Total: 25)
    Secondary: Interlunar Networking +7x2 (Total: 17)
    Tertiary: +2 (Total: 5)

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    Colonization of Odysseus (Moon IV) Begins

    To back up its claim, the Emperor today approved the beginning of the colonization of uninhabited moon IV, which will henceforth be known as Odysseus. 2 wealth has been approved to move the factories, refining depots and other equipment required to found a colony. The Bureaucracy plans to land more equipment later this year, when exploration of the moon's resources is closer to completion.

    (Spend 2 wealth and 3 space to build 1 point of economy on Odysseus (Moon IV))

    Tech:

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    5 primary, 0 secondary

    Tech:
    Laser Weapons: 19
    Improved Rocket Engines: 4
    Tertiary: 0



    Civil:
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    3 unrest, 5 civil, all negated.

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    Leonas formally stakes a claim for moon II

    Leonas & Panteras Trade deals Turn 4:

    Leonas/Olympia: 2/2
    Leonas/Helia: 4/4
    Leonas/Agamemnon: 2/2
    Leonas/Aseio: 2/2
    Panteras/Olympia: 1/1
    Panteras/Leonas: 1/1

    The only external change is trade Leonas/Olympia, which I had to reduce by one due to having to use turn 3's starting economy; sorry. Hopefully in future turns we will be able to increase the trade again.

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    Leonas Times

    Economy News:
    Leonas Mining Company Opens Foreign Offices

    The multionational Iron Ores (aggregate of many smaller mining companies) has just announced its intention of exploring the last unclaimed moon in the Theia system for resources. The Iron Ores chairman has admitted that they have nothing more than a hunch, but that "given the developing situation, Iron Ores could not watch passively as other companies took the lead in what is likely to be one of the more dinamic times in our history"

    With ample back-up capital, Iron Ores has already established the beach head, having relied on the same off-world developers that helped UltraTech.

    Space Companies decentralise
    In a bold move to reduce operating costs, three major space agencies have moved much of their operations off-world, to both Panteras and Tigris. In a combined declaration, they stated "Much of our business these days lies on transporting building material from Leonas orbit to Panteras, and we expect Tigris to require the same kind of services. With this move, we will be able to better serve the interests of our clients"

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    Moon II:
    Primary: Resources (0+4)
    Secondary: habitability (0+2)


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    Counter-espionage: Prevent (+5); uncover (+1)


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    Leonas works on:
    Primary advanced metalurgy (+22 (plans received from Olympia))
    Secondary Deep Crust Mining (+4)
    Other (+1)
    Totals:
    Advanced Metalurgy: 30
    Deep Crust Mining: 7
    Others: 4

    Known: Improved Rocket Engines


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    1 Corruption, 3 unrest. 5 civil. No problems


    Trade
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    Leonas/Olympia: 2/2
    Leonas/Helia: 4/4
    Leonas/Agamemnon: 2/2
    Leonas/Aseio: 2/2
    Panteras/Olympia: 1/1
    Panteras/Leonas: 1/1


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    Budget Leonas: 5+8+5+10=28
    Upkeep: -9
    Total: 19
    +1 to resources in Panteras (1 wealth)
    +2 Space (4 wealth)
    +2 Economy (4 wealth)
    +2 Tech (4 wealth)
    +1 Civil (2 wealth)
    +1 Civil in Panteras (2 wealth, 3 space)
    +1 Economy in Tigris (2 wealth, 3 Space)

    Budget Panteras: 0+2+0+1=3
    Upkeep: 1
    Total: 2
    +1 Civil

    1 space moved from Leonas to Panteras
    3 space moved from Leonas to Tigris


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    Leonas
    Power
    Army 2
    Navy 2
    Air 2
    Spy 3
    Nuclear 1
    Defences 1

    Wealth
    Population 5.32->5.85
    Economy 8+2
    Resources 5

    Social
    Tech 6+2
    Civil 5+1
    Space 8+2-4

    Panteras (Moon III)
    Power 0

    Wealth
    Population 0
    Economy 2
    Resources 0+1?

    Social
    Tech 0
    Social 0+2
    Space 0+1

    Tigris (Moon II)
    Power 0

    Wealth
    Population 0
    Economy 0+1
    Resources ?

    Social
    Tech 0
    Social 0
    Space 0+3


    Edit: received the plans for Advanced metalurgy, allowing me to derive the wealth point used to complete them elsewhere
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    Official Leonas World Goverment Communication

    Due to grave threats received from a fellow moon over some long-forgotten, non-ratified "claim" on Tigris, the World Goverment has been forced to pass emergency laws that have coopted much of the future funds that were being destined to economic development. As of now, the Tigris exploration Program is cancelled, instead the ships planned to be used for its purpose have been used to transport troops from Leonas and Kharta to defend the newly established Tigris colony. We are sorry we cannot mantain our compromises with the rest of the Coalition, and we hope they will remember our mutual defence pact if it comes to an invasion of Leonas or its colonies; but we hope it will not come to pass, and we do not anticipate any problems in Kharta due to our withdrawal.

    Furthermore, we pass that all industries must devote their mid-year efforts to the production of ilitary equipment, while the World Goverment initiates a recruitment program to bolster our forces locally, in case the threats are carried out.

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    Edit of previous instructions:

    Instead of exploration, the two space will be used to move 2 land and 2 air from Leonas and Kharta to Tigris.

    Also:
    4 wealth (+2 tech) -> (+1 tech, +1 army)
    4 wealth (+2 econ) -> (+1 econ, +1 air)
    4 wealth (+2 space) -> (+1 space, +1 defences)

    The 3 space that were going to be assigned to Tigris will remain assigned to Leonas.

    I understand that this may not be completely kosher, that is why I have taken from those investing 4 wealth; assuming an uniform spenditure, I took the wealth from the "second half" of the year.

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    Leonas
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    Army 2+1-2
    Navy 2
    Air 2+1-2
    Spy 3
    Nuclear 1
    Defences 1+1

    Wealth
    Population 5.32->5.85
    Economy 8+1
    Resources 5

    Social
    Tech 6+1
    Civil 5+1
    Space 8+1-1

    Panteras (Moon III)
    Power 0

    Wealth
    Population 0
    Economy 2
    Resources 0+1?

    Social
    Tech 0
    Social 0+2
    Space 0+1

    Tigris (Moon II)
    Power
    Army 0+2
    Air 0+2

    Wealth
    Population 0
    Economy 0+1
    Resources ?

    Social
    Tech 0
    Social 0
    Space 0


    Edit: Didn't remember I had to pay for moving people around, so I'll leave it as it was
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    General Transmission to All Theians

    Or, finally, we must accept that we could not even confine ourselves to a partial liberation. All is interdependent in a civilized society; it is impossible to reform any one thing without altering the whole. So, once the "divine right of the claim of territory" is dismantled, no amount of hegemonic reasoning will prevent it's overthrow.- Eloia the Elder, Late Hegemonic Period

    Sibling Theians, fellow human beings, we of Aseio, of the Gathering-At-Dawn greet you. I, Elyan Aseio, send out this message to you. It is a grand testament to the human spirit that we, apart, have achieved so much greatness. And yet within the first few years of contact, our most potent achievements have been two invasions, one of which Aseio has participated in, and only the merest interlunary cooperation beyond military support, even then often hidden from ears of our sibling moons. And now we compound these problems with "claims" to exclusionary territory and vague threats of violence.
    It wearies our heart and shames us, but we must reject, in its present form, the "Colonization Accords" created by our dearest siblings Agamemnon and Olympia. It is our position that all uninhabited lands, be they moons, planets, or asteroids, are the common inheritance of all Theian individuals, and that right to manage (and therefore right to exclude, if any is to be accepted) is established only in the reality of use.
    Therefore, we respect the integrity and independece of all already-established colonies and their right to defend the territory which they already occupy. We respect and will defend (as in the case of Agamemnon) the integrity of all Theian home-moons from any undue outside violence. We reject the use of any form of violence to prevent the colonization of any uninhabited areas, including the uninhabited areas of already colonized moons. We shall not act with violence to deny other moons their right to seek subsistence beyond their home moons, unless such acts threaten the whole of the Theian community, and we shall not tolerate any attempt, without prior negotation or consensus to be denied of that same right.

    The Gathering-At-Dawn has achieved consensus on this matter and takes the following actions:

    1. The establishment of a scientific outpost on Moon V, consisting of a primary science-commune and a handful of satellite outposts, for the purpose of studying the ecology and climate of Moon V. I myself will oversee the initial establishment of this outpost for a period of at least 1 year, and put forth Peruni Tatseka as Orator in my stead.

    2. We once again call out to the Karthan government to surrender and submit to the latest terms that have been presented by Agamemnon. We give our approval to these terms of surrender - they exhibit the wisdom of just and careful deliberation - and encourage the Agamemnon government to publish them.

    3. We have attached to this transmission the plans for Interlunary Networking. We are willing to work with any and all to further the advancement of knowledge for all Theians, and do this as a sign of good faith, and with respect to the state of friendship we have with sibling Helia. We invite all to participate in shared research with us, for the mutual benefit of our peoples.

    Thank you.

    Elyan Aseio, the Gathering-At-Dawn

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    Aseio spends 2 wealth to build 1 Econ, and 3 space to move that civil to Moon V.
    Aseio shares plans for Interlunar Networking with all factions.
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    Olympia Begins Colonization of Moon V

    Massive plans were enacted today to establish a colony on the moon we call Hades. Full-scale population of the colony is not yet expected, although it may occur later if population pressure on Olympia begins to cause problems. President Rufus assures all that the new colony will exist in perfect harmony with Aseio's scientific outpost. With the mission mostly over in Kartha, almost half of the military units currently stationed there are moved to Moon V to oversee the safe construction of the colony.

    2 Wealth to build one point of Economy destined for Moon V (transported by Helian Space Fleet)
    2 Wealth to build one point of Civil destined for Moon V (transported by Nifelheim Space Fleet)

    1 Space used to bring 1 army, 1 Navy from Kartha to Moon V
    4 Space used to bring 4 wealth, set up 4 points of mines on Moon V

    Revised Turn 4 Trade Deals
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    Leonas 2:2 (down from 4:4)
    Agamemnon 3:3
    Nifelheim 3:3
    Panteras 0:0 (nixed from 1:1)
    Aseio 2:2
    Gaia 1:1
    Total 11:11


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    +2 from Population
    +9 from Economy
    +5 from Resources
    +11 from trade
    -(48.66/5=10, rounded) for upkeep
    +1 banked from turn 2
    +2 donated from Aseio
    = 20 to spend

    4 wealth on previously described colony building
    4 wealth sent to establish resource mines on Moon V
    2 wealth to increase Economy from 9 to 10
    2 wealth to increase Space from 7 to 8
    4 wealth to increase Tech from 7 to 9
    2 wealth to increase Civil form 5 to 6
    2 wealth spent directly on Interlunar Networking, to finish it


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    Counterespionage
    Primary - Prevent 8
    Secondary - Uncover 3
    Tertiary - 1
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    Headlines in the Nifelheim Gazette:

    Near-conflict ends in friendship
    During the beginning of this year, talks about war with a neighbouring moon were heard just about everywhere. However, in a wonderful attempt to maintain what little peace there is in this system, the High Council managed to strike a deal with the would-be enemy. This is most likely the start of a wonderful friendship!

    New labs built across Nifelheim
    The High Council has decided to help further the science of Nifelheim. This was done by increasing the budget for many existing labs, and by building a few new ones as well. All in the hopes of getting more quickly to the resources we all desire.

    Space Fleet assists Olympia
    The Space Fleet has been ordered to help Olympia with their efforts to colonize a previously uninhabited moon. Hopefully, this is the beginning of yet another lasting friendship.

    First outpost established on another moon
    Now, for the very first time, an outpost has been built on a different moon besides Nifelheim. The moon in question is Freyja, and it is shared with the small colony Tigris. The High Council has decided to call the newly established outpost/colony Jotunheim.


    Budget:
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    Wealth: 6+3+4+2-7=8
    2 spent on raising Spy.
    4 spent on raising Tech
    2 spent on building 1 Civil, transported by the Space not used to help Olympia to Moon II.

    Army 2
    Navy 2
    Air 2
    Space 6
    Population 2.662 >> 2.9282
    Economy 4
    Resources 3
    Spy 1+1
    Tech 6+2
    Civil 5
    Nuclear 1
    Defences 1


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    Primary: 12 Secondary: 5 Tertiary: 0

    Primary(Deep Crust Mining): 15+12=27
    Secondary(Interlunar Networks): 18+(5*2)=28


    Spy:
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    Counter Espionage. Primary (Prevent): 2 Secondary (Uncover): 1


    Civil:
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    1 Corruption, 3 Unrest. Civil: 5. Nothing left uncountered.


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    3 points of Space transports 1 point of Civil from Olympia to Moon V.
    3 points of Space transports 1 point of Civil from Nifelheim to Freyja (Moon II).


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    Agamemnon 2:2
    Helia 1:1
    Olympia 3:3
    Aseio 1:1
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    Trade, revised for rule reminder:
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    9 available:
    Gaia: 3:3
    Olympia: 3:3
    Leonas: 2:2
    Aseio: 1:1 (changed)
    T.I.C.: 0 (changed)


    Agamemnon Nationalizes the T.I.C.

    The boardroom is filled with the high-level TIC executives, called there by a Bureaucracy memo about a high-level press conference. Economic Official Thymemotes, the architect behind Agamemnon's recent economic explosion, takes the stage. Agamemnon Internal Affairs agents flank the stage, and all the exits, dress uniforms immaculate and sidearms at their hips. "Hello, my esteemed colleagues. It has come to my attention that the activities of the T.I.C. have diverged from the goals of Agamemnon as a whole. We pursue social stability and a tranquil society, while the upper-level leadership of the T.I.C. seeks only wealth. Because of this, today myself, the other Senior Bureaucrats and our holy Emperor himself approved a measure taking control of all T.I.C. assets. Your pension checks are in the mail."
    As the conference continues, and Thymemotes calmly answers the outrage of the executives, Agamemnoniite police lead lower-level Bureaucrats into T.I.C. facilities all over the moon, and begin the formal transfer of ownership. T.I.C. personell below the level of upper management are given raises and asked to stay on, while upper management is mailed an ample early retirement check and politely asked to leave.

    ((1 civil spent with the police action)).

    Mining Slated for Odysseus

    More equipment arrives on Odysseus, this time setting up mines to go with the refineries and equipment set up earlier.

    ((Maps transmitted from Olympia))

    ((In total, 2 points of Resources are exploited on Odysseus))

    Agamemnon Publishes Khartan Terms of Surrender

    In reference to Aseio's urging to publish the Khartan terms of surrender, the Bureaucracy uncharacteristically acquiesced. The Khartan Leadership seems to be in hiding, but if necessary they are prepared to force these terms unilaterally, as they feel that they are fair and the conflict has gone on long enough.

    1) Kharta will dismantle its remaining army, navy, air force, and intelligence agency, and allow the other Moons to audit its budget every turn to make sure it hasn't rebuilt any. Reparations in the amount of 6 wealth, to account for Agamemnon's direct military losses, will be payed from the scrap and dismantling profits.

    2) Kharta is still allowed to expand, set its own budget, colonize and trade, provided this is through peaceful means. Kharta will maintain its independence, it is merely barred from projecting power of any sort. Kharta's budget may not include expenditures for anything remotely military.

    3) All hostilities will cease. Kharta will order any partisans to give themselves up and disarm-- those that do disarm will be allowed to leave peacably.

    4) One of the Coalition nations will decide how the Khartan Fleet directs its efforts every turn, to be approved by a popular vote of the other Coalition nations, which will require a simple majority to pass. Should the vote fail, the Space Consul may call for another vote, but if it cannot pass the vote, the Khartan fleet will remain idle except for trade, which is under the direction of the Trade Consul (see below). The Space Consul will be determined randomly and follow a randomly generated list after that.

    5) One of the Coalition nations will set the Khartan trade budget every year, to be approved by a popular vote requiring a simple majority of the other Coalition nations. If the vote fails, the trade-setting nation may call for a new vote later, but if it does not pass, Khartan trade remains as it was the year before. The moon to be trade consul will be chosen randomly in the first year, and follow a randomly generated list after that.

    6) Khartan defense will become an interlunar responsibility.

    7) Kharta may regain full independence 5 years from the signing of this treaty at the earliest. If a simple majority of the Coalition nations vote to grant Kharta its independence, it will once again become fully responsible for its defense, space program and trade allocation.

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    Trade income: 9
    Wealth: 17
    Upkeep: 8
    Net to spend: 18

    12 spent to raise tech from 3 to 9.
    2 spent to activate 2 points of Resources on Odysseus (Moon IV)
    2 spent to build 1 point of economy on Odysseus
    2 spent to increase Spy from 8 to 9



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    Army 1
    Navy 1
    Air 1
    Spy 9
    WMD 0
    Defenses 0
    Population 5.852 (rounds to 5)
    Economy 10 (+3 from T.I.C.)
    Resources 5
    Space 6
    Civil 5
    Tech 9

    Kharta:
    Army: 1 *1
    Navy: 1 *1
    Air: *1

    Helia:
    Tech: 2 (from T.I.C., Sale pending)

    Odysseus (moon IV):
    Economy: 1
    Resources: 2


    *1: 1 unit rented from Parts Unknown
    Power: 14
    Social: 22
    Wealth: 20
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    "You're finally here!"
    Her voice struck him like electricity bringing to life a long dormant circuit within him, or a neglected string now made vibrant. It was different from the voice that he remembered, and yet in everyway it was the same. The same Eloian he had known before, but older. The magic of the familiar.
    Her embrace was enthusiastic and crushed his lungs. Strong arms. She had gained some weight, mostly muscle. No doubt from the hard work of establishing the new outpost that she was in charge of, though it was hard to tell since she was still wearing her lab worker's tunic.
    "Elyan, it's so good to see you."
    "You too, Eloi. Or, I guess I should call you Eloian Vitkari?"
    "Ha! And I suppose I should call you Mr. Aseio? Is it still Aseio?"
    He shrugged. "Elyan is fine. It'll depend on how long I stay here."
    "Well... come up. I want to show you something."
    She led him to the tallest building in the outpost, a mere three stories high, strong and stout. It was one of the largest buildings in the outpost as well, excluding the warehouses, as it housed most of the primary labs as well as the research and administration offices, and the dorms as well. The nucleus of Vitkar's Landing.
    He recognized her touch in the building. The material was mostly a hardened bamboo - her own version, most likely, and bred back on Aseio when she ran the Discovery Coop's Bioeng group. It felt cool to the touch in the hot climate, and we wasn't sure if it was a quality of the material or something in the design of the structure. And the building layout, her touch was there as well. It was a pratical fusion of work and pleasure, meant to confuse the two. Residential spaces entagled with labs and offices, and green spaces as well, a luxury that seemed unique to this moon. It reminded him of the seminary they had both studied in when they had first met. But here, on a new moon, it seemed more virile, the joy more virulent that it started to affect him as well. He could see it on her face, and it was hard not to reflect it back. This was a frontier scientist's paradise.
    She led him past her lab block, wide windows filling the mostly empty space with light, and onto the balcony where they could see the whole of the outpost. Vitkar's Landing was flat and unflattering. Still mostly under construction, many of the buildings were flat blocks that seemed to be randomly distributed, interrupted occasionally by a set of more aesthetically pleasing domes. It seemed functional and somehow amateur, a patchwork town. And beautiful still, despite all that. He made a mental note to ask someone about that, an architect perhaps, and started to make a list in his mind.
    The mental task was interrupted when she raised her hand and pointed at the distance, towards the east warehouses. Another shuttle had come down roaring, filled with people and cargo. She said something, still smiling, but he could no longer hear her. He watched the new emigrants shuffle out, imagined how they felt. How they squinted under the sun, the same sun really, but somehow remade in an alien sky. Themselves remade, and following the promise of the revolution now unrestrained by the gravity well of their home moon.
    Beauty, and the promise of happiness.


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    Secondary - Genome Mapping - 4
    Tertiary - 1


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    Secondary - Uncover - 1


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    2 space spent moving 2 wealth to Olympia


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    2 to raise econ from 6 to 7
    2 to raise space from 5 to 6
    2 to raise tech from 7 to 8
    2 to raise spy from 1 to 2
    2 to raise 1 econ to be moved to moon V
    2 wealth transported to Olympia


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    Olympia 2:2
    Helia 2:2
    Leonas 2:2
    Nifelheim 1:1
    Agamemnon 1:1


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    Year 4 A.C. was a significant one for science indeed. All over the moons, significant new breakthroughs were made.
    In an astounding coincident (some voices claimed plagiarism), technologies for effective mining in the deeper region of the lunar crust were invented on both Olympia and Nifelheim. Scientists interviewed to the matter however, explained that the plans used showed significant differences: "While the Nifelheimer plans mostly use larger drilling machines and ways to keep those huge and deep tunnels stable, the olympians plan on using networks of smaller tunnels instead, and then extracting valuable resources mostly by dissolving them in specialized solvents."

    Also noteworthy is that Nifelheim managed to build their own prototypes of improved communication satellites after plans they acquired earlier.
    "This is correct", said the secretary for international communication. "We already managed to establish broadband connections to other moons, most importantly Aseio. Our scientists believe that true interlunar networking between the two moons will be achieved close to the new year."

    Scientists of Leonas made breakthroughs in the field of metallurgy and materials science. They claim that the new building materials, mostly metals, they are now able to produce are at least on par with those of every other moon.

    Finally, the moon of Aseio is now the third one to finish the implementation of the new and improved MkV high-output rocket engines.

    T.I.C. nationalized

    An international message, sent via the new and improved satellites on Aseio to reach all moons, but originating on Leonas.
    An elderly man sits on a chair in front of the camera, no icons or anything to imply where he is from. He wears a dark blue suit and holds a walking stick on both hands. His voice, a little shaky from his age, nevertheless speaks in perfect interlunar communication language, and subtitles in the languages of Agamemnon, Leonas and Helia are shown.
    "This is a message to the Emperor of Agamemnon, the Official Thymenotes and all the governments, corporations and inhabitants of the Theia System.
    You may not know me, therefore I will introduce myself. My name is Richard Lee the Fifth. Until two years ago I was the owner and director of the Lee Bank of Leonas. This bank had been in the hands of our family for more than four hundred years.
    You may notice the past tense. Because, one year after contact, I decided that, while I still was the owner of the company, my son was ready to take over the leadership.
    He did a fine job, managed to ally himself with the Vantage Research Labs of Agamemnon, the Phoenix Trade Company of Olympia and a host of smaller firms all over the moons to form the T.I.C. And then he made a mistake I cannot excuse: he lost the family enterprise to a hostile takeover.
    Now, let me tell you one thing: our bank did not survive four hundred years on Leonas by being easily taken over. We always fought for our business, and we always prevailed. What Agamemnon did to us is unprecedented.
    Therefore I will make sure that my son will not ever touch an amount of money he can't count in his fingers for the rest of his life.
    And this is my message to you: you will rue this day. The Lee family will not rest until your tyrannical empire is ruined. We will make sure no free enterprise, no corporation, no private trade ship will ever set foot on your moon or your colonies again. And remember this: our bank ruined kingdoms on the past, we can ruin empires now.
    Good day, gentlemen. May his Majesty enjoy what isnt of left of the glory of his empire."

    Agamemnon takes over 3 points of economy from the T.I.C. However, one point of spy, as well as the two points of tech stationed on Helia and one point of Civil remain private.
    Additionally, Agamemnon has four points of trade less next turn.
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    trade 7
    upkeep 8
    spending 9
    spend 2 to bring defense to 5
    spend 2 to bring tech to 8
    spend 2 to bring spy to 6
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    1 to do loop-de-loops around Helia

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    primary advanced metalugry 12(*2 with plans) 24
    secondary militarty robotics:11
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    plans for advance rocket engines, advancened matelurgy
    completed weak A.I.

    Today We are happy to anounce the computerisation of Helia.
    Every aspect of our lives, from sleeping to experimental physics is hleped by the computer. Making a server is a moments work, and making a network is and hours. Electric wiring is more promient than plubing, and A.I.'s dueall menial monitering jobs. All armoured vehicles are beign updated with computers recievers so that they can be controlled from a mobile command centre.
    We have reached the point where any more research centre's would be a wasted expense, and as such we the only new technoag spending will be to decentrilise it.

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    use the 2 wealth to brgin mineing two more resource points, raising reosurce to 3.
    We would like to stake a formal claim to this moon as well.

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    Leonas 5:5
    Nifelheim 1:1
    Aseio 2:2
    Agemenmon 1:0(or just send me 1 wealth, I don't care.
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    Helian Freemen buy Shares of T.I.C.

    The new board of directors (sans Lee jr.) announced today that they will restart their business on Helia, thanks to generous investments by several of the Helian Freemen, who now alltogether own 50% of the company's shares.

    Helia gives 4 wealth to the T.I.C, which it uses to build 2 economy on Helia
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    Army 2
    Navy 2
    Air 2
    Space 2
    Population 2.662 (3)
    Economy 6
    Resources 3
    Spy 4
    Tech 5
    Civil 4
    Nuclear 1
    Defences 2


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    Agamemnon 3:3
    Olympia 1:1


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    Wealth = 15 (3 pop, 5 econ, 3 resources, 4 trade)
    Upkeep = 7
    Spending = 8 (2 to increase spy by 1, 2 to increase economy by 1, 2 to increase Tech by 1, and 2 to increase civil by 1)


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    Primary - Genome Mapping + 11 = 27
    Secondary - Advanced Metallurgy + 12 (6 x 2 I have the plans now) = 16
    Tertiary - Everything else + 2 = 3


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    Lee Family

    Shocking news travel around the system. After the Lee family entered the world stage so prominently, news companies all over the system took an interest in them. And it seems their past is a lot less great than they claim...
    Their family line seems to include it's fair share of madmen... most famous of them probably Richard Lee II, who declared himself to be from Iapetus. Not only that, but even those family members who were a little bit more sane don't have records that are all that clean... there were always rumours of large sums of money embezzled over years, some rather strange bankruptcies and suicides of their business rivals and in one case even a murdered prostitute directly linked to one James Lee a hundred and twenty years ago. Then there are of course the stories that are linked to every banker: cases of fraud and blackmail that were never solved, in dozens.
    One particular rumour gained a lot of press coverage only days after Mr. Lee's message to the emperor: that of his rather unusual interest in little boys. Some claim that he was also addicted to a variety of illegal drugs, which was never confirmed, until two weeks after his message, when he was found in his office, dead from a fatal drug overdose.
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    Helian response to Lee's death
    There is a sayin in Helia Jerth nil fren, Fate favour Stasis. It refers to the fact that, intill a few yearrs ago, anyone who was seeking to oust the current rulers would drown, or die in a mugging, or be hit by a car, or yes, have a drug overdose. As such, in till we see absoulute proof, we are going to assume foul play, and assume the "facts released"before his death are false. Let me assure you, if the murderer was Helian, or staying on Helia, he will not be able to rest easy.
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    A message transmitted on all interlunar frequencies from the Assion Satellites.
    Greetings.
    It is my opinion, and one shared by my Colleges on both Helia and Aesio, that an organisation of some kind is needed to help co-ordinate peace efforts and provide some semblance of interlunar order and cooperation.
    As such, I present to you the Interlunar Alliance charter.
    The first orders of business are finding a name, and crest.
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    1. Recognizing the right of all peoples to existence, peace and prosperity
    1.1. Noting that, within a year of gaining inter lunar travel capabilities, an invasion was in full swing.
    1.2 Concluding that, in order to enforce peace and help maintain prosperity, an organization of all major governments and powers must be organized

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    2. Believing that, in order to function properly, a grouping of organizations must be maintained
    2.1. Therefore, believing that the organization will be divided between a high council, an assembly of other nations, a court for war and inter lunar crimes and any other organization created as need.
    2.2 As such the structure will be as follows
    2.2.1 The high council, a representative of the governments of Helia, Asesio, and Leonar, a floating seat manned by someone voted in by the general assembly, and any other sovereign entity that is unanimously voted in by the council. They will be in charge of appointing the lead commander for any intervention operation, as well as organizing any new arms of the alliance. They will vote on any action when there is not enough time for a full debate.
    2.2.2 An inter lunar court. This will be the highest court in the system, and used for war crimes and crimes that are in the jurisdiction of more than one moon. It will be manned by a Judge appointed by each moon.
    2.2.3. The Theian Territorial Claims Commission (TTCC). IT would be responsible for dealing with any conflicting claims on moons, making sure that one moon is not grabbing all land, and dealing with any claims of environmental damage
    2.2.3. The General assembly. Votes on any major bills, and is composed of all members.

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    3.1 Noting how an integrated technological base would allow for increased economic prosperity, as well as discouraging aggression and distrust.
    3.1.1 Thereby stating that all moons and members are encouraged to make the plans and schematics to all techs under their possession known to all members.
    AMENDMENT 1 Also noting that some member nations will wish to not have their technolagy released publicly, Stating that tech bought or recieved from another moon cannot be made public without prior aproval of the giving moon.(amanded due to concern of Olympia.)
    3.2 Also noting that a integrated research base would be vastly beneficial to all involved parties
    3.2.1 Thereby stating that any and all inter lunar research projects are supported, and inter lunar networking technology should be made available to all members at the earliest opportunity.

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    4.1 Noting the presence of an unprovoked military operation in progress at the time of writing, as well as the likelihood of more to come.
    4.1.1 Concluding that a way to organize interventionist forces should be made in order to increase efficiency
    4.2 All intervention operations will be headed by a supreme commander responsible for acting as a liaison between the various armed forces and coordinating them to prevent any friendly fire.
    4.2.1 The supreme commander shall be appointed by the high council, the rank shall be held in till the situation has been resolved satisfactorily.

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    5.1 Noting that membership rules will have to set down to provide any semblance of order
    5.2 Thus stating the following restrictions for membership
    5.2.1 Must have a government autonomous of foreign powers.
    5.2.2 Must be recognized as a sovereign entity
    5.2.3 A nation which has instigated a war can not join in till 2 years after in the war is over and any reparations are paid to the satisfaction of the victims.
    5.2.4 Any nation failing to obey by this charter or any other passed laws is unable to join and may be thrown out, after a vote by the assembly
    5.2.5 They must be accepted by a majority of the council (does not take affect in till 1 year after the publishing of this charter)

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    6.1 Wishing to make sure that the rights of the individual are always protected.
    6.2 As such setting down the following laws
    6.2.1 No human shall be forced to work without compensation with their consent
    6.2.2.3 Excepting those who do this as punishment for a criminal offense
    6.2.2 Unless it falls under 6.2.1, any human who works shall keep at least 60% of their labor. In either the products they make, or equal monetary compensation.
    6.2.3 No human shall be denied the use of his skills for subsistence for reasons such as race, religion, class, moon or nation of origin, or any other superficial difference
    6.2.4 No sapient being will be denied use of their skills for political agenda, the employer’s personnel bias, or any reason besides a competitor being objectively better qualified.
    6.2.5 No person shall be detained for more than 48 hours without a charge being laid against them
    6.2.6 All people have the right to a fair trial

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    7.1 Noting that a least is needed of what resources are required by member states
    7.2 As such listing them here.
    7.2.1 1 representative to the high council and/or general assembly
    7.2.2 1 Justice to the inter lunar court
    7.2.3 1 Justice to the TTCC
    7.2.4 (optional) up to 1 point of army as an honor guard to discourage threats.
    7.2.5 any intervention forces or relief that is needed on other moons

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    8.1 Noting that a headquarters is needed
    8.2 Also noting that having the headquarters stationed on one moon permanently would create a unfair bias towards that moons.
    8.2.1 As such, stating that every 2 years, a draw will be held to determine which moon will host the Alliance for the next two years

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    "Noting that article three is in contradiction to article 6. If we uphold the right of all people to be compensated for their work, we cannot in good conscience ask that our researchers surrender the fruits of their labors without fair compensation. Olympia will seek to make known to all the research it has acquired - at fair market value. We will from this point onwards not engage in transactions involving our intellectual property when the other party will simply release it to the whole cosmos upon its receipt. We will not abide the theft of our labor."

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    "Noting that article three is in contradiction to article 6. If we uphold the right of all people to be compensated for their work, we cannot in good conscience ask that our researchers surrender the fruits of their labors without fair compensation. Olympia will seek to make known to all the research it has acquired - at fair market value. We will from this point onwards not engage in transactions involving our intellectual property when the other party will simply release it to the whole cosmos upon its receipt. We will not abide the theft of our labor."

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    The compensation would be of course, the plans to any other mebers technolagies.
    Also, the word is encouraged, you are of course welcome to go forward with the above stratagy, although I dought it will make you very populer.
    If you have suggestions for the amendment of Article 3, We would be gald to hear them.
    We would also like to point out that it is generaly assumed that the goverment compensants the researchers.
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    A Response to Olympia from the Discovery Coop

    Professor Gast, if we understand the origin of your dissent correctly, then I believe there has been a misunderstanding. We would like to take this opportunity to allay your concerns.

    First, as sibling Helia has already pointed out, the Article 3 encourages sharing within member groups - it does not require it. It is my understanding that this is to encourage a form of generalized or balanced reciprocity of knowledge within the group. Compensation in this manner would be inevitable, if not immediate, as this would promote a giving-back of technology (what we, on Aseio, call "open exchange" or "total prestation"). Of course, we would respect, as you mentioned, the right researchers to subsist off their labours; it is a right we have respected in our research exchanges thus far. Article 3 is not intended or designed to undermine that.

    Secondly, we suspect that your objection may lie in Article 3.2.1. This mistake is Aseio's. It was our intention to release the plans for Interlunar Networking at the same time as this Charter was publish, but, as you may recall, we released the IN schematics prematurely during our own dissent regarding the Colonization Accords and the potential violence they may have incited over conflicting claims. Article 3.2.1 is Aseio's responsibility alone, and one that we have fulfilled in good faith, and with the hope that it will establish in practice the spirit of cooperation which this charter stands for.

    Lastly, if it is agreeable to the other members of this fledgling union, we would like to propose a conference be held to resolve any remaining issues regarding the Charter.

    Otopkin Aseio, the Discovery Cooperative

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    Professor Gast, if we understand the origin of your dissent correctly, then I believe there has been a misunderstanding. We would like to take this opportunity to allay your concerns.

    First, as sibling Helia has already pointed out, the Article 3 encourages sharing within member groups - it does not require it. It is my understanding that this is to encourage a form of generalized or balanced reciprocity of knowledge within the group. Compensation in this manner would be inevitable, if not immediate, as this would promote a giving-back of technology (what we, on Aseio, call "open exchange" or "total prestation"). Of course, we would respect, as you mentioned, the right researchers to subsist off their labours; it is a right we have respected in our research exchanges thus far. Article 3 is not intended or designed to undermine that.

    Secondly, we suspect that your objection may lie in Article 3.2.1. This mistake is Aseio's. It was our intention to release the plans for Interlunar Networking at the same time as this Charter was publish, but, as you may recall, we released the IN schematics prematurely during our own dissent regarding the Colonization Accords and the potential violence they may have incited over conflicting claims. Article 3.2.1 is Aseio's responsibility alone, and one that we have fulfilled in good faith, and with the hope that it will establish in practice the spirit of cooperation which this charter stands for.

    Lastly, if it is agreeable to the other members of this fledgling union, we would like to propose a conference be held to resolve any remaining issues regarding the Charter.

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    We agree, this would also be a good way to organise the representitives each member moon is sending to the headquarters, where the first headquarters will be, and any cases that anyone wishes to bring to the TTCC or interlunar court..
    also, the High concial of Nifelheim
    had this sugestion for the name and crest.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nifelheim
    As to the name, perhaps ULN would be suitable? It stands for United Lunarian Nations. The crest might be a dot for every member-moon, against a white background.
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    We Must Still Dissent

    Imagine the following scenario, Otopkin Aseio. Olympian researchers make a breakthrough in molecular engineering. It represents a serious investment of labor and resources. Being the good people we are, we then look to share our research with our friends on other moons. We trade the plans to Aseio, and Aseio 'shares' them openly. Suddenly, there are five or six other moons using our research without any compensation at all. It is not that we are concerned about Article 3 forcing anything on us, but rather that proper sharing will become impossible for us if enough governments adopt the policies encouraged in Article 3.

    You know very well that my Tech Corps is light-years ahead of many other moons. We have progressed by leaps and bounds, and our future growth promises to be even greater. There is no way that an 'open' exchange could fairly compensate us for the contributions we would bring to the table. Why ask that we disclose our research, but not ask that all members openly share their economies? Their intelligence agencies? Their space fleets?

    We do not seek to withhold our research from the people of Theia. We ask only to be fairly compensated for the work that we do, a simple request that would nonetheless be made impossible by the existence of this charter in its present form.

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    We Must Still Dissent

    Imagine the following scenario, Otopkin Aseio. Olympian researchers make a breakthrough in molecular engineering. It represents a serious investment of labor and resources. Being the good people we are, we then look to share our research with our friends on other moons. We trade the plans to Aseio, and Aseio 'shares' them openly. Suddenly, there are five or six other moons using our research without any compensation at all. It is not that we are concerned about Article 3 forcing anything on us, but rather that proper sharing will become impossible for us if enough governments adopt the policies encouraged in Article 3.

    You know very well that my Tech Corps is light-years ahead of many other moons. We have progressed by leaps and bounds, and our future growth promises to be even greater. There is no way that an 'open' exchange could fairly compensate us for the contributions we would bring to the table. Why ask that we disclose our research, but not ask that all members openly share their economies? Their intelligence agencies? Their space fleets?

    We do not seek to withhold our research from the people of Theia. We ask only to be fairly compensated for the work that we do, a simple request that would nonetheless be made impossible by the existence of this charter in its present form.

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    ah, We were mistaken. So, your fear is being payed by one mon who then goes and releases the information publicly?
    You should probably look into rooting out the so-called "THeian Society for the Freedom of information".
    Also, perhaps you should simply say in your agreement "I will only sell you the plans if you don't publicly release them or sell them". and get it in writing, an end-user agreement, as it were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puppyavenger View Post
    Also, perhaps you should simply say in your agreement "I will only sell you the plans if you don't publicly release them or sell them". and get it in writing, an end-user agreement, as it were.
    Cellis Draka,

    If you write a provision into your charter prohibiting the unauthorized 'sharing' of another moon's intellectual property, then perhaps I will take charter moons at their words in crafting such agreements.

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    Cellis Draka,

    If you write a provision into your charter prohibiting the unauthorized 'sharing' of another moon's intellectual property, then perhaps I will take charter moons at their words in crafting such agreements.

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    very well, It will be amended in presently.
    its quite clearly there as Amendment 1 between Article 3.1.1 and 3.2
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