Gestalt Arena practice - "Shadow Blade" Jack Vs Stella

[KevLar]

A towering figure in a dark robe enters the room where you have been milling around sizing up the competition. His face is completely obscured by his hood. He raises both hands to get your attention and speaks in a deep voice.

"Shadow Blade" Jack, Stella. You have been chosen to fight. Prepare yourselves!

With that he brings his hands down and the two of you find yourself transported to the arena.

OOC:
You've got time for one swift action and one standard action before you get transported in case you need to adopt a stance or activate an item.

On the map, green is open terrain, yellow is difficult terrain, red/brown is the cliffs (10ft, Climb DC20, blocks LoS). Arena has a 60 foot ceiling.

Opening post should have an initiative roll, anything you said after he called your name and what, if anything you did with the 'surprise round' before being transported. After that, start fighting in initiative order.

Positions:
"Shadow Blade" Jack

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Horizontal Axis: (1d20)[15]
Vertical Axis: (1d20)[7]

Stella

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Horizontal Axis: (1d20)[5]
Vertical Axis: (1d20)[15]

[KevLar]

OOC: Damn, the roll didn't work. Again.

Positions:
"Shadow Blade" Jack

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Horizontal Axis: (1d20)[9]
Vertical Axis: (1d20)[20]

Stella

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Horizontal Axis: (1d20)[18]
Vertical Axis: (1d20)[6]

EDIT- Also, come to think of it, without a Judge, referee, something, it was pretty dumb of me to put the positions in spoilers. We need to know if we have LoS or not. :)

[Yukitsu]

[roll](d20)[/roll]

+15 initiative total from roll below of 33 initiative.

Standard readies hide in plane sight (72), swift activates hearing the air stance.

[Yukitsu]

I hate this die roll system.

(d20)[18]

[KevLar]

You can add a number in the roll, like this (without the spaces) :
[ roll ]1d20+15[ /roll ]

[Yukitsu]

You can add a number in the roll, like this (without the spaces) :
[ roll ]1d20+15[ /roll ]

I know. I just prefer it this way so I know what I rolled without having to do math. Anyway, rolls for inits.

As for LoS, we seem to have it, but have cover in relation to eachother. I'm also hiding, so LoS is a bit moot unless you spot me.

[KevLar]

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Standard Action: Divine Shield, 7 rounds remaining
Swift Action: Activate Stance of Clarity

Initiative: (1d20+27)[35]

[Yukitsu]

Cool. Your round.

[KevLar]

I don't think we have LoS. Those red squares are pillars/rocks/walls, in any case they are 20 ft tall and they are in between, on lines K and L. So we can't see each other.

I think I go first.

Move to J 11 (last known position) and hiding (inside the pillar, so total cover). But I will come out somewhere, and you might see me, so roll a spot check.
Hide check (1d20+44)[51]
My spot check to see you: (1d20+36)[40]

if you beat my hide check:

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I am on the same square, but 20 ft up, top of the pillar, half-inside (cover) and half outside looking for you.

[Yukitsu]

My round I activate my ring of invisibility, and my blind sense goes off, alerting me to your presense. I continue hiding, but now have 112 on my hide check. I fail my spot check.

Edit: Never mind, ethereal. No blind sense for me.

Edit: edit: wait, incorporeal. I do get it...

XD I'm not used to this format so hardcore. I don't have enough range. Reading 4 files at once makes this a hard process.

[Yukitsu]

(d20+28)[32] For spot

[KevLar]

Yes, now here's the funny part:
1) I have Lifesense. Since you are a living creature, I see your lifeforce spreading from you to a 60 ft radius, and it doesn't matter if you are invisible or have concealment. Only total cover would prevent me from pinpointing you.
2) I am incorporeal. Blindsense (which has 30 ft radius, more than our distance) doesn't work against me.

Note: To be exact, SRD says that blindsense is "ineffective or partially effective against incorporeal creatures", without other details. If you have any idea how to rule about this, I'm all ears. :)

End of Round 1?

EDIT- Yeah, it's odd for me too, this is my 2nd PvP game, and that's why it takes me so long to post an answer. Sorry...

[Yukitsu]

Yes, now here's the funny part:
1) I have Lifesense. Since you are a living creature, I see your lifeforce spreading from you to a 60 ft radius, and it doesn't matter if you are invisible or have concealment. Only total cover would prevent me from pinpointing you.
2) I am incorporeal. Blindsense (which has 30 ft radius, more than our distance) doesn't work against me.

Very much true. Doesn't let you pinpoint though.

Note: To be exact, SRD says that blindsense is "ineffective or partially effective against incorporeal creatures", without other details. If you have any idea how to rule about this, I'm all ears. :)

End of Round 1?

50% fail chance per round sound decent? This is basically going to be two people who can't find eachother trying to wack eachother regardless.

Edit: Which page is that on again? Having trouble finding that.

Yes, it's the end of round one, and your turn again.

[KevLar]

This is going to be fun. Why no pinpointing? I see you as a torch. But anyway. I'm charging. Chaaaaarge!

free action: Divine Might +13 to damage
Full round action: Searing Charge, +5d6 fire damage. Considered a charge, therefore: Charging Smite with Power Attack +1 and using the Seeking Smite option (from Awesome Smite feat): ignores miss chance.

attack: (1d20+50)[69]
damage: (1d8+69)[74] + fire damage (5d6)[22]

EDIT - http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbi...incorporeality

EDIT2 - Divine Shield, 6 rounds remaining
Rebuke Undead, 14 remaining
AC=65

[Yukitsu]

I disappear 50 feet, move 70 away and am in I 10, hiding, still invisible. I start pouring my quick caps into my bottles of alchemist fire, since I know I'm fighting a ghost now.

Edit: I read it through like, 5 times. I can't seem to find that passage.

[KevLar]

Didn't I see you going to that direction (a moving torch and all)? I'll fly 20 ft up in the air and towards where I last saw you. This would be the last point where I had LoS before you disappeared behind the wall. Can I make it there with a double move?

[KevLar]

Damn, I forgot to roll Crusader maneuvers. In order:
(1d5)[5]
(1d5)[5]

[KevLar]

And a triple post...
(1d5)[5]
EDIT- Oh for the love of God.

[Yukitsu]

Last seen at O 10, but disappeared from there.

[KevLar]

If you dashed from there to I10, you passed through a green field without obstacles (from my point of view), therefore I saw you going there, didn't I? Am I missing something?

The part about Blindsense is further down, at Invisibility, 4th paragraph from the bottom. (Sorry, wrong link.)

Can I get my second maneuver now?
(1d5)[2]
(1d5)[3]
(1d5)[3]
(1d5)[2]
(I'll take the first that isn't 5 again.)

EDIT Wait, how did you disappear in O10? I could see you there. Lifesense. Only cover bothers it.

[Yukitsu]

If you dashed from there to I10, you passed through a green field without obstacles (from my point of view), therefore I saw you going there, didn't I? Am I missing something?

The part about Blindsense is further down, at Invisibility, 4th paragraph from the bottom. (Sorry, wrong link.)

Can I get my second maneuver now?
[roll0]
[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]
(I'll take the first that isn't 5 again.)

EDIT Wait, how did you disappear in O10? I could see you there. Lifesense. Only cover bothers it.

Ah right, having trouble reading ranges on that map. In that case, I disappear at I 8, and have moved to E 18, hiding with full cover. I'll start moving my quick caps then.

For some reason, invisible incorporeal only seems to mention blindsight, not blind sense, which is what I thought it was. Blind sense just needs line of effect, and a non-ethereal target.

Edit: Nice rolls on the manuevers, BTW.

[KevLar]

I stand corrected! (Wrong link for the 2nd time, and may I say how frustrating it is to look through 3 different pages to find the rules for one thing...)
Here, SRD says:

Nonvisual senses, such as scent and blindsight, are either ineffective or only partly effective with regard to incorporeal creatures.

It doesn't say anything about Blindsense there. The reason I was so sure about it was this, from Rules Compendium:

In almost all cases, nonvisual senses are ineffective for detecting or pinpointing incorporeal creatures. Blindsense, blindsight, scent, and tremorsense are all useless. An incorporeal creature moves silently and can’t
be heard with Listen checks if it doesn’t wish to be. If an incorporeal creature
chooses to make noise, it can be detected by means of normal hearing, or
by blindsense or blindsight based on acute hearing. If a creature possesses some other nonvisual sense, use your best judgment in determining the effectiveness of that sense in detecting an incorporeal creature.

[KevLar]

OK. So, Round 3!

I fly where I last saw you (60 ft), I don't see you, and spend the rest of my double move to fly up 20 ft. I'm pretty sure that I have an idea roughly where you are now, since I should be able to see your light spreading in a 60 ft radius, except where the rocks block it. Nothing else for now. :)

I'm in I8, 20 ft up, in plain sight.

Divine Shield rounds remaining: 5

[Yukitsu]

I do a full round action moving about my quick caps, and use a swift action to regain my manuever.

Life sense is just like blindsight, so you only see my aura when within 60 feet of me, not the aura 60 feet around me. Unless Libris Mortis has a different rule than the PHB does for it. I don't have libris mortis.

[KevLar]

Libris Mortis is an evil book:

LIFESENSE [MONSTROUS]
You see the light that all living creatures emit.
Prerequisites: Cha 13, Con — (no Constitution score).
Benefits: In addition to any normal light that might be present, your surroundings are illuminated by roving points of brightness created by living creatures. To your eyes, a Medium or smaller creature gives off life force sufficient to provide bright illumination in a 60-foot radius, revealing itself and all features and objects in range to your life-adapted sight. This life-light behaves like regular light—you can’t see into solid objects, or past solid walls.
A Large creature gives off life-light in a 120-foot radius, and the radius doubles again for each additional size category larger than Medium, up to a maximum radius of 960 feet for a Colossal creature.

Will you give me 10 minutes? I have to do something IRL. In the mean time, would you like to tell me what "quick caps"??? I have no idea.

[Yukitsu]

Ah. In that case, you get a couple of them, coming from the same general direction. And this must be precisely why my DM bans ghostwalk and libris mortis. On the plus side, I believe there is a feat to counteract this one. Although I'm not sure if the magic shadow isn't somewhat counteracting that.

A quick cap is an alchemical item from complete adventurer. It lets me use a free action to cover my weapon in an alchemical substance. Had I metagamed, they'd be on the correct weapon, but they aren't, so I have to spend the next 3 rounds fiddling with them and avoiding you.

[KevLar]

I'm back and I have 2 suggestions.
1) Since this is a test anyway, I suggest we assume you are ready, and fire away. :) (It brings a big smile on my face when people are polite enough to not meta-game.)
2) What magical shadow? Since we have no ref, I suggest you tell me what it was exactly. Maybe Lifesense doesn't cover it after all.

[Yukitsu]

My lantern makes everything within 60 feet count as in one shadowed area. Incidently, that means if your life sense is making it 1 brighter, and mine is making it one darker, it may cancel. However, I'm not sure if that's how life sense is supposed to work. Does it interact with magical lighting at all, or do they does lifesense just ignore that?

It gets confusing when we have stuff like this.

I'll try to survive for another 2 rounds, after which I have a shot. I can run a lot faster than your character can, so it's possible for me to do this.

[KevLar]

It's a headache.
OK, if I'm getting this right, Round 4:

Move towards the light, I'm in 20 ft up in F-16, seeing you, but not near enough to attack you. So I just say: Boo!
(I'd use Intimidate, but it's a standard action, dammit. )

EDIT- Divine Shield rounds remaining: 4

[Yukitsu]

"eep!"

Since you moved, spoke and are in the air, my spot will see you. I (move twice) off and hide again. I'm in S 19 after my jaunt, but this time I take vertical cover from whatever that difficult terrain actually is. I think I dissapear around L 18.